Once again, Linux proving that is not better than Windows in terms of security and that its attack surface is just as nasty if not worse.
>tl;dr New Ubuntu version that has made the change to systemd a while back has a security flaw in login screen that can let anyone access your files, olders versions that use upstart are obviously not affected.
>Canonical has already pushed out a update that temporarily disables Ubuntu guest session logins (so if you noticed it was missing, that’s why).
Enjoy your shitty wannabe Windows registry linux faggots. Real Unix systems like MacOS or *BSD don't have this problem.
>Real Unix systems like MacOS or *BSD Sure they are Unix-like, but they will never be true UNIX in spirit, for they are warped and twisted creations by those who never understood the UNIX model and its simplifications.
Ian Taylor
this isnt systemd, its ubuntu its not even related to systemd
Joseph Anderson
What's systemd? I keep hearing about it on chat boards but none of my machines use it.
Nathaniel Lee
Poettering needs to fucking neck himself already. This man and his butt buddies just make poor design decision after poor design decision.
Fuck off. If you want to use GNOME, you must have it. If you install a distro that isn't Gentoo, Slack, or Devuan you'll get it by default and most people won't bother changing it.
>if a commercial airliner is unsafe, you're in luck because you can buy and fly your own plane!
Carson Perry
>Ubuntu guest session logins But I already disable this myself on every install.
Dylan Ward
>security flaw in login screen
That thing that runs 20seconds per year and only I have access to. Now that's a huge problem indeed, lel
David Cook
>If you want to use GNOME What kind of a retard would use GNOME? >If you install a distro that isn't Gentoo, Slack, or Devuan You forgot Void Linux.
Samuel Hill
You are not fooling anyone Red Hat shill.
GNOME requires systemd KDE Plasma Wayland requires systemd Firefox went pulseaudio only since version 52 etc etc
Cameron Stewart
>systemd exploit lets anyone access your files Wrong. AppArmor is considered only *after* passing the standard Unix file permissions, so no one has access to your files unless you open them up to the world yourself. Also, you have to physically access the machine to log in as guest. If an attacker has physical access, you are beyond fucked anyway.
Andrew James
literally, what's the alternative?
Cameron Gray
PCLinuxOS is probably the most popular systemd-less distro, it's a very good as a desktop daily driver and has a nice repo which covers most software needs.
Dominic Phillips
>tfw you literally cannot use Linux without relying on malware written by a Red Hat employee.
The inits which existed before systemd haven't ceased to exist. You still have sysvinit, runit, openrc, and others. Just use whatever you would have used if systemd never existed, problem solved.
Michael Rogers
Just use bash as init. The bonus is that you'll have auto-login as root.
Hahaha this always baffles me, systemd faggots trying blaming the user for their shitty code.
Just like Kay who tried to blame other Linux developer for his shitty systemd regression and then Linus called him out for his bullshit.
The anime image doesn't make you any less of a faggot btw.
Samuel Robinson
>poorly configured AppArmor >systemd exploit
Are anti-systemd people really this retarded?
Gabriel Lopez
>blaming AppArmor == blaming the user Are you actually retarded?
Dominic Nguyen
>Ubuntu exclusive bug >Not about systemd >Already fixed thanks to community (a similar bug take 2 months to be patched on Windows) >Need physical access so you are fucked anyway (if you ddid't crypt your files)
End of thread
Leo Scott
Are you actually this desperate?
Kayden Miller
wtf I hate systemD shills now
Xavier White
Just use Devuan. It's Debian minus SystemD.
Ryan Phillips
Will my system brake If my uninstall systemd?
James Barnes
yeah I've been using Devuan since they released their 1.0 and haven't had any problems
Austin Jenkins
Is devuan testing as stable as stretch is now?
Julian Long
Don't use systemd
Don't use GNOME
Don't use GTK
Don't use GTK
Don't use Fedora.
Avoid Red Hat Winows-ization cancer.
Jacob Wood
they implemented the guest session sloppily it's not an actual systemd exploit they implemented the guest session sloppily it's not an actual systemd exploit they implemented the guest session sloppily it's not an actual systemd exploit they implemented the guest session sloppily it's not an actual systemd exploit they implemented the guest session sloppily it's not an actual systemd exploit they implemented the guest session sloppily it's not an actual systemd exploit
Elijah Lee
You autistics screeched about the exact same fucking thing in windows by replacing sticky keys Lmao
Caleb Jenkins
how is this a systemd bug?
Jace Gonzalez
>systemD and what about systemd?
John King
>Blames the configuration of a program for his shitty code >I am only blaming the software not the user!
My bad. I didn't knew systemd+apparmor magically configures itself, you stupid retard.
And here it is another systemd shill doing exactly the same thing.
Daniel Watson
It can still be built with alsa on gentoo.
Thomas Evans
system8=========D
Dylan Russell
wow, good think I use Void Linux :^)
Gavin Young
GTK doesn't depend on systemd you inbred
Bentley Hill
aids for linux
Kayden Gutierrez
> I didn't knew systemd+apparmor magically configures itself, you stupid retard. Well, that's the thing, they don't. Programmer who wrote the guest session implementation did it wrong. Not a systemd fault. > iptables -t filter -I INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT > I got an army of bots on me! Iptables have an exploit! Linux is finished and bankrupt!
Aaron Russell
Yes. 14.04 can live without it.
Josiah Mitchell
not if you properly configure a replacement like runit or upstart
should probably note however that removing the systemd meta package from ubuntu/debian/fedora will remove your entire desktop. Arch/Gentoo should be alright.
You'd be better off just getting Void/Alpine/*BSD or something else that doesnt ship with systemd
This has literally nothing to do with systemd, this is a bug in the apparmor profile for lightdm on ubuntu. Stop spreading misinformation.
Daniel Ward
The NSA must be really thankful with Harry Potter, thanks to his systemd cancer now being the de facto standard in all Linux they already must have doubled their list of Linux 0 day exploits.
Elijah Wright
All your Linux distros are full of nasty binary blobs like that.
Jordan Russell
Thanks for the proof. Oh wait...
Kevin Ward
>Factor by which NSA zero day exploits have been multiplied = 2 >Linux NSA zero day exploits = 0
>2 * 0 = 0
Wow, it's nothing!
Leo Evans
Literally 99% of distros come with binary blobs in the form of software or drivers, how do you think your modern hardware works you stupid retard?
Thanks for the (you) faggot
Jaxon Ortiz
The delusion of Lunix fanboys never ceases to amaze me.
Christian Rivera
>use a Libre kernel >no binary blobs
Wow
Oliver Gray
Still no proof, just FUD. Literal idiot. >Thanks for the (you) Great achievement for your kind.
Leo Watson
>Not using Gentoo
Nathaniel Morris
systemd is the greatest shite they did to linux. fuck off shill!
Owen King
>t. mactoddler
Gavin Miller
What does exactly systemd that a lot of user hate it so fucking much? the spy part or what?
Josiah Green
>KDE Plasma Wayland requires systemd No it doesn't, you fucking wanker.
Jeremiah Cooper
It works too well with no configuration, this is suspicious to the autistbeards who are used to having to manually edit text config files to get basic functionality like automounting volumes and such.
Ryan Russell
Kernel is not the only thing that has those you illiterate faggot.
Wyatt Roberts
>all linux desktop use gstreamer and chrome You can be replaced with a bot.
Easton Flores
Nobody gives a shit about apparmor its Ubuntu specific and the reason it isn't working correctly is because the Ubuntu devs haven't hacked in the support yet.
This isn't an exploit.
Austin Rogers
This is so wrong
Commit self poku or something
Tyler Rivera
Just don't install any driver with a binary blob you dumb asshole.
Christian Ortiz
Regular non-driver software can have blobs too you stupid prick.
Leo Cox
>not using Denuvain Lmao
>MacOS or *BSD don't have this problem. This, minus the mac part since Mac is just a bastardized BSD system.
>What's next? a keylogger hidden in pulseaudio? kek
They do because 99% of your NSA-controlled CIA nigger distros use it.
Xavier Adams
Winbabbies are desperate after last week's ransomware, digging up old bugs and whatnot
Ayden Edwards
>don't use the ones that do >yea but some do pottery.
Jackson Murphy
You are even more retarded than this guy
Blake Moore
Just use a distro that hasn't got systemd. Duh.
Jose Fisher
Care to post actual arguments or is this just shitposting of the "BSD STRONG!!!!" kind?
Henry Evans
>t. mactoddler
Dominic Nelson
NSA exploits on Linux is the computer equivalent of Big Foot
Ethan Moore
>lightdm LMAO I use gdm, Fuck off
Brandon Kelly
Shitposting is the best you can do.
Jack Rodriguez
Lennart shipping his own login screen with systemd when?
Lucas Watson
and systemd apologists still shill this shit
Christopher Rivera
The end user isn't expected to setup MAC. It is the job of the distribution (and power users can just edit the profile to their choosing if they wish). Hence Ubuntu is at fault.
Jacob Sanders
>Firefox went pulseaudio only since version 52 What does PulseAudio have to do with SystemD?
Leo Hill
OS X may be based on BSD, but it is certified UNIX.
Nathan Sullivan
>t. mactoddler
Benjamin Stewart
>mfw runit
Cooper Kelly
FRAU POETTERING SHILLS ITT
Liam Thompson
frau poetter did it
redhat lied
linux died
Jayden Morales
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
Adrian Robinson
all i see is lightdm guest session being retarded as always. Is gdm3 affected at all?
Juan Roberts
>Real Unix systems like MacOS or *BSD don't have this problem. Non of these are Unix systems. BSD is unix-like. macOS is UNIX.
Why does the german mind love over-engineering so much?
Jackson Torres
Just because there is a workaround that works with an incredibly outdated version doesn't mean that officially systemd is a hard dependency of GNOME.
I just treid to uninstall systemd on my distro and guess what? It wanted to remove GNOME too.
Fuck off already you fucking shill. who are you pretending to trick?
Aaron Moore
>incredibly outdated (~)> xbps-query -R gnome architecture: x86_64 build-date: 2017-05-10 12:10 CEST filename-sha256: 492a4aaea6d39f0fcafb515dad192ec904d8d80890ed999780a868dc37bb750c filename-size: 1684B homepage: gnome.org installed_size: 0B license: GPL-2, LGPL-2 maintainer: Juan RP pkgver: gnome-3.24.1_1 repository: repo.voidlinux.eu/current short_desc: The GNOME meta-package for Void Linux source-revisions: gnome:bffe9c3639 (~)> ?????
stay salty archfag
Wyatt Taylor
>saving files in the same place as your os >not loading your os from usb drive >not using exclusively separate usb drives >not running wangblows and unimportant memes and other garbage on your internal drives to throw off the NSA ISHYGDDT
Grayson Jenkins
>he thinks macOS is any different >implying Lennart and Kay didn't borrow a lot of their ideas from the source code Apple released for launchd systemd is basically just a better version of launchd