UMD

What are your thoughts on UMD as a format? Other than the fact that only the PSP uses them.

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They broke easy.
They where hard to transport and not get destroyed.
They took forever to load.
They used up a lot of battery.
The best thing I ever did was installing a custom firmware and unplugging the UMD reader it did wonders for my battery life.

Any problems with video quality?

I never tried video on it.
But considering the UMD is capped at 1.8GB capacity and the screens on the PSP was 480 x 272 rez I can't really judge it.
Supposedly the Video was compared to regular DVD quality but no having ripped any in my time to the PC and looking at them in a decent screen I can't say for sure.

better than a cd, but that's not saying much

I had a couple UMD anime movies. The video quality looked fine to me but it's been years, probably woulnd't beat a DVD.

It's kino

>unplugging the UMD reader it did wonders for my battery life
Huh? How is that different than just simply not using it?

>They broke easy
The reader or the actual disc? Either way, mine are working after all those years
>They where hard to transport and not get destroyed.
Bullshit. You had to literally sit on them to break them
>They took forever to load.
Wrong
>They used up a lot of battery.
It depends of the game. On movies, I got ~4 hours
>The best thing I ever did was installing a custom firmware and unplugging the UMD reader it did wonders for my battery life.
How is that any different than just not using the UMD reader
Dumb tripfaggot

To be fair, they are slow compared to reading from the memory card

That covering over the disc was fragile as fuck. It wouldn't be that big of an issue if the boxes for the games didn't cave in the plastic screen when you took it out.

aesthetic as fuck

spinning device == shit performance

Are you an actual retard who can't take care of his shit?

These fuckers were so slow. When I ripped games to the memory card on my custom firmware PSP the games would load much faster. UMD was the stupidest part of the PSP. All of the games could easily have been digital downloads.

Tenia un PSP y los UMD eran una pesadilla.
Fue una fail jajaja. Menos mal que el vita ya no los usaba y el psp go used descargar digitals

>Sony's successful disc media: CD, BD
>Sony's busted disc media: MD, UMD

They sure love circles.

like all physical media, they're a bitch and a half to lug around. slow load times. aesthetic though.

>Supposedly the Video was compared to regular DVD quality
lol no it was not. it was literally about half the size of a dvd quality film

Si dvd very fast. Rapidos.
Psps not muy bueno. Not good

Downloading a ~1GB game on 2004 WiFi would've been a pain in the ass, so it's probably best most games came on a pre-installed format.

Now why that preinstalled format was a tiny proprietary CD is beyond me

It's not. He's a faggot.

Not so fun fact: there were compact disc caddies as well. They quickly fell out of favor because they're annoying.

I love these caddies man look so cool in anime. It like a better floppy disk

Definitely, I fucking love the look of minidiscs, and many of the later players are really nice, it's a damn shame flash based storage is so much better

I always thought it was awesome that Sony released TV shows and movies on them as well, too bad they died fast. I'm still mad Sony never released a UMD drive for the Vita, I swear that's what that unused port was for.

>No laser minidisc for archival records

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It's faster and cheaper to press a disc than to use flash

But wouldn't the cost of manufacturing an optical drive be about the same as just making a card?

At the time they were created(with the PSP in mind) they made sense but as flash memory improved they stopped making sense for really anything. The drive used a lot of power so it drained the PSP's battery quick, they had really shitty read speeds which contributed to long load times, and they were not really durable at all.

It's not like each game comes with its own optical drive. Plus keep in mind that this was in 2004 and the UMDs hold 1.8GB. That same year the first 1GB SD cards were hitting the market with a $500 MSRP. Do you think anyone's going to spend $500+game?

take my MD you bitch

I own 3 PSPs and have never used one

It fucking sucked.
the were bulky, clunky, loud, and annoying.

cfw + large memorystick for the win!

>spinning device = shit battery performance
ftfy

also it was slower than reading it off of the memory card.

get cancer wetback

>What are your thoughts on UMD as a format
It is just a small dvd that is proprietary.

It spins even if nothing is in it

This is both wrong and very easy to test.

It could actually play back 720x480 MP4 video, but the screen size was only 480x272. The CPU had h.264 hardware acceleration so I would assume UMD videos were MPEG4.

It does spin when you're not using it not to mention it's loud as fuck, there's even a mod to remove the umd drive completely and replace it with a battery ala thinkpads with their dvd drive to ssd thingie.

Yeah, UMDs use MPEG4 video with ATRAC3plus audio

What kind of games could it hold, Sup Forums?

128 Exabytes, you can store the entire internet on there.

>2017+
>literally ANY form of physical media
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Including the porn?

I don't think so.

xD

Raw Numbers as of August 2014:
4 data centers, 550 nodes, 20,000 spinning disks
Wayback Machine: 9.6 PetaBytes
Books/Music/Video Collections: 9.8 PetaBytes
Unique data: 18.5 PetaBytes
Total used storage: 50 PetaBytes

An exabyte is 1000 petabytes

You're underestimating what an exabyte is, let alone 128 of them.

lackluster
on another note I wish minidisc never died

it was pretty fuckin' cool looking my 12 yo self said.
Im glad such a awesome lookin' format was apart of my inncoent childhood

would not replace with something more efficient/10

Psp should of used flash based cartridges. Tech was already there.

They were not very universal.

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Ahh the days of M33 custom firmware

The special battery that would jailbreak your phone

Loading up games onto a 4 gig flash drive

custom themes... like actual legit custom themes

homebrew


i miss the early psp modding scene

Sony fucked themselves out of billions by not releasing the format and selling blank discs and 3.5" burners for PCs.
>but muh piracy

>The special battery that would jailbreak your phone

high as shit i meant psp not phone

But flash capacity eas booming. Keep in mind shit is mass produced and can be tesd only. DS went up to 512mb. That's bigger than most psp gsmes compressed to cso.

It was bit rate starved. Dual layer dvds are 8.5gb. And an average remuxed dvd is still around 4, with no menus special features or secondary audiotracks.

Still would have been expensive as fuck at launch, the UMD was definitely the way to go.

Why not a small mechanial hard drive like ipods?

>mfw!umd movies as late as 2011
Appearantly there was umd porn as well.

Discs are cheaper and faster to produce

You only need 1 hard drive. Probably not even that much more expensive than the optical drice alone.
You know how fucking cash a 30gb psp would have been? You can argue internet wasn't ready for digital distribution but psp piracy was probably the biggest thing for game digital distribution. Then you could always throw servers to gamestop or whoever for people to pull over wireless LAN or even usb.

Nor are they subject to shock damage.

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But then you'd be restricted in how many games you can play.

If they hit the attach rate where that was a problem theyd he rolling in doe. A 30gb base model is like 60+ games at a time in most cases. Could have upped it amd gone flash in later models. Or had Expandable. Besides you can just delete shit and redownload, back i up t your pc like with vita. I pirated all my games and had no problems with two 4gb pro duos. Hell even now i just use those two and a 16gb microsim i have all the psp games i need and that's still less than the lower end ipod hdd at the time. Which was about the size of a umd drive.

HDD still would've made the PSP more expensive and less durable. Plus 2004 was way too early for digital distribution only. Even now, fuck digital distribution. Thank god Sony didn't go full retard with the PSP.

cds break even easier tho. that thing wont break if its not stored in its case but cds will get scratches just by looking at it.

It was a tradeoff because flash memory was still small and expensive.

only because the psps used proprietary memory cards.

Proprietariness wasn't the issue you'd have had to pay out the ass for SD as well.

Yeah retard. Show me 2GB flash nand and its price in 2004.

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kek, was that actually an issue for people? I've only had the 2000 and 3000.

Proprietary physical media. HMMM I FUCKING WONDER....

bitstartved and looked like shit though. I remember encoding videos to watch on my PSP including UMD rips. They looked like fucking shit compared to raw DVD rips

Tripfag? What tripfag?

I still have my 1000, it never happened to me while playing a game. Sometimes when it was in my backpack or something it would pop open but that wasn't such a big deal.

I didn't get a PSP because I didn't want to lost access to my licensed media when a moving part wears out.

cfw user here, my umd player never spins when I play my isos from my memory stick

The first time I held one of these I thought the casing was something you were supposed to take the disc out of and nearly broke it.

i got a 2GB memorystick for my psp in 2005, cost me NZ$210

I greatly enjoy cartridge housed optical media. It's the most aesthetic medium out there.
MiniDisc is even nicer, too bad they fell out of style.

It was garbage back then and it's still garbage now but there was nothing better at the time that didn't cost you a fortune.

I still got the UMD demo disc and Spider-Man 2 UMD the PSP came with at launch.

Aside from the lower resolution umd's generally have better quality video.
DVDs use mpeg2 compression which looks like ass even at the DVD's higher bitrate. DVDs become especially blocky in fast motion and often have terrible colour banding and black level detail. UMDs use vastly superior h.264 compression which looks better even at the lower bitrate

Man, the PSP was so ahead of it's time.
>fully customizable UI on a handheld device in 2004
>PS2 level graphics
>full multimedia support with an excellent screen for the time
>could play games off of the memory cards / internal storage at when not even home consoles could
>nearly 8-year life cycle

Agreed, the wacky tech we saw in the late 90's and early 2000's were awesome.

Yeah, because making backups and/or replacing a UMD drive in the off chance it did fail is so hard

>>fully customizable UI on a handheld device in 2004
huh? you can change the wallpaper and some colours
no more than windows mobile/pocket pc devices
>full multimedia support with an excellent screen for the time
the video playback support was pretty nice, but the screen on the 100X was pretty shit, at least it was big (for the time)
>could play games off of the memory cards / internal storage at when not even home consoles could
it could run demos off memorystick, but no actual, full games (counting only legitimate usage, of course)
>nearly 8-year life cycle
the psx lasted 11 years, and the ps2 13 years, the psp was relatively short-lived for a sony console

>it could run demos off memorystick, but no actual, full games
PlayStation games

full psp* games
and the psp didn't get psx game support from the beginning, that came later

Still had it

yea, though it wasn't the first console to get downloadable games

>i miss the early psp modding scene
The later days of it we're terrible, especiallywhen there were 50 different cfw's and the upgradeability was iffy.

I ditched my PSP when i had come cfw that wouldn't let me update because it thought it's current firmware was higher than the one it was being upgraded to.

All I wanted to do was play that damn kingdom hearts game, but I couldn't play it even if I bought it legally damn it.

>huh? you can change the wallpaper and some colours
Wallpaper, colours, icons, and sounds. (Assuming you didn't just hack it.) XMB was highly customizable.
>the video playback support was pretty nice, but the screen on the 100X was pretty shit, at least it was big (for the time)
I know that the size of the screen was a common complaint for a lot of people, but I personally liked it a lot.
>it could run demos off memorystick, but no actual, full games (counting only legitimate usage, of course)
It could run PSN & PS1 games off of the memory, and later on you could download full games.
> the psx lasted 11 years, and the ps2 13 years, the psp was relatively short-lived for a sony console
But it was very long-lived for a non-Nintendo handheld console.

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