/hpg/ - Headphone General

>Headphone purchase advice
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is there a single girl which appreciates headphone?

My Mother often borrows my HD 650

much shill.

HD 820 info today?

So the DT1990s are pretty good: youtube.com/watch?v=3L8gnhxrzto

source: fat neckbeard

>Budget
100-300€
>Location
Greece for prices check here -> skroutz.gr/c/1860/over-ear-akoystika.html Greek price comparison site.
>Source
Brand new motherboard with decent onboard sound card and getting good amp soon
>Type of headphone
Doesn't matter
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter either they're only going to be used at home
>Comfort level
Doesn't matter my ears are used to abuse
>Sound signature
Considering i'm kinda new at this and haven't ever tried decent headphones before i'll just mention the use here so
i suppose whatever delivers best on those catergories. First and foremost listening to music at loud volumes the
genres will vary from classical to electro to some metal varietions to modern orchestral(incorporates both orchestral
and electro sounds) and plenty of soundtracks all of which should have at least a 320kbps mp3 quality. Another very
important use for the headphones is going to be VR gaming on HTC VIVE and asmr so a good soundstage would be
very important.
>Past headphones
Shitty cheap headsets

So at this point i'm between hd 600 for 265€ or the hd 650 for 285€, many seem pleased with the hd 600 and might be
the headphones for me considering i don't know yet what kind of sound i like and people here claim they're good
all-rounders. Should i maybe consider a different brand at this price range? I just want to get to the end-game and only
have to think about upgrading again years later when i actually earn a decent living.

Also will a 20 year old good expensive amp that was mainly used for speakers but also has headphone 1/4 jack and
can connect to my motherboard be my end-game amp(not sure if it has dac included)? The thing is, schiit has 0 greek
sellers and when i cheked their prices they dont ship here or say they're out of stock, and e10k is a non end-game 100€
tier amp that just throws me way over my budget so i'd rather get my dad's used amp since he doesn't use it anymore.

Anyone?

HD600 are best regarded despite cheaper, so it's pretty much a no brainer. The HD650 are a slightly colored version that particularly favors bass and recesses treble.

Most reviewers that done both do prefer the HD600 and they're pretty much the only headphones you'll ever need.

God, i hope i don't get meme'd the place i'm ordering them from is on the other side
of the country and if i want to return them i have to pay to ship them back.

>HD 600
>Good soundstage
It's not very wide at all but if you like them, they're pretty good. K612 is the poor man's HD 600 with wide soundstage.

I've personally used both 600 and 650, both are great.

I prefer the 650 but the 600 is close behind in my book; extraordinary headphones for the price either way

Are the Monoprice Monolith M560 worth the price?
i currently have the beyerdynamic Custom One Pro Plus

Hmm, so would this mean the hd 600s soundstage will be a poorer experience? I think for vr and ero-asmr use a wide soundstage would be rather important
Which one do you think has a better soundstage? Considering they only have a 20 price difference here.

They're nearly identical

What "wide soundstage" really means is colored (exaggerated) soundstage.

The HD600 is a neutral AF headphone which gives it to you as it is, including soundstage.

Of course it does not sound "artificially narrow" like closed headphones do.

Agreed, the 600/650 can still sound very wide on tracks that purposely exaggerate the soundstage

I see, i suppose hd 600 is the safest option then considering i don't know if i like the coloring of the hd 650

Go for it, you really can't go wrong with either.

Just keep in mind they'll be a little tight when they arrive, give them a week or so to strech out.

Do /NOT/ strech the band at the top, bend the metal gently if you have to

Alright
>Just keep in mind they'll be a little tight when they arrive, give them a week or so to strech out.
>Do /NOT/ strech the band at the top, bend the metal gently if you have to
good to know.

HD800 is synonym for wide-soundstage

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I mean they're both pretty close in the FR graph. He's going to be using them for VR so immersion i would think would be a priority. My Superlux 681's sounded exaggerated while I had them though they were some of the cleanest headphones I've heard.

I'd go with the *correct* soundstage of HD600.

What exaggerated soundstage will give you in VR is shit right next to you or right in front of you would sound as if it was FAR AWAY, which definitely you do not want.

posted in the old thread at the end so reposting here:

>Budget
$150-200
>Location
CA, USA
>Source
PC mostly
>Type of headphone
Full sized - portable is a plus
>Open or closed
either
>Comfort level
8+
>Sound signature
Warm / v shaped
>Past headphones
gaming headsets and samsung IEMs

Also looking for some desktop speakers to replace my logitech ones that i've had for several years. Are Mackie CR4s good for the price ($150) or is there a better option in that price range?

Custom One Pro

Sennheiser HD599, AKG k702, HD598se.

>speakers
JBL LSR305

HD598 SE

$157 on Amazon right now

>speakers
Thats quite a bit higher than my budget for speakers, would like to stay in the $150 range on them too

Would I need an amp/dac for them?

Straight from your PC/Phone will be fine but you might benifit from one in the future. If you do order them wait a month or so and see if they're too quiet or have any distortion, then order something like the Fulla 2

They don't need one but their electrical impedence and phase graph is all types of wonky. It'll improve in bass with an amp though doesn't need one to get loud or be driven properly.

>Would I need an amp/dac for them?
No need (they'll sound good without, already), but having one would benefit you (they'd sound better). How much better will depend on your source.

Most smartphones have builtin amps these days, so you can play a youtube or something on them and compare with your computer.

Note many recent motherboards have a built-in headphone amp too, which should suffice. You'd typically get a dialog when plugging the headphones to a computer jack asking which type of headphone. The fullsized and/or automatic settings will enable the amp. This only helps in boards that actually have an amp. See your manufacturers' spec. Asus calls it something like crystal audio 2 and is explicit with the amp thing. Other brands have equivalent such commercial names for it.

Hey retards, what can you tell me about the KZ ZS3?

Warmish-dark, great sub-bass, amazing fit, but shit stock cable.

They're good for the price, and even better if you get a silver ZS3 cable which are like $4 on eBay. Stock cable picks up a ton of noise from rubbing on clothes and stuff.

There are mods to remove some dampening foam to make them sound better too. Search for it on head-fi.

I recommend the 650. I use mine for both music and vidya and it's great, especially for long sessions. The price difference between it and the 600 is probably because it has a nicer cable and a more sturdy headband.

Both of them should sound great on that tube amp, but if you want a good neutral solid-state amp+dac at some point, check out the audio-gd NFB-11. They'll ship it to you there

>Budget
$0-$300
>Location
USA West Coast
>Source
Phone / Laptop
>Type of headphone
Looking for Fullsize or IEM
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Need to be able to wear them 8 hours a day, so pretty comfortable
>Sound signature
N/A
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 595
AKG K712
AKG K701
Shure SE215-K
RHA MA750


I work in an extremely noisy environment where I need ear protection, at the moment I'm using my RHA MA750's to reduce the noise and listen to music while I work. I use these for 8 hours a day and they are fairly comfortable. Where they fall short is after a while my ear seems to get sweaty and they start falling out which leaves me with no ear protection until I completely dry out my ears. This usually happens at around the 4 hour mark. I'm using the plastic ear tips with these if that makes any difference. Now I'm considering buying regular full-size headphones or new IEM's that work in my noisy environment and will stay in my ear.

With the RHA MA750's I'm also able to still hear enough to talk to my coworkers without taking them out but I am able to drown out enough sound that I'm pretty sure it's safe for my ears, was hoping to find something similar, this however is not a major aspect and can be ignored. Thanks for any help.

HD380 Pro. Reputable, neutral, excellent (-32dB) isolation.

380Pro - Full sizs
Etymotic MK5/HF5 - IEM

ER4XR

Thanks guys, I'm leaning towards the HD 380s, I really liked my old Sennheisers. Would it be worth it to buy a portable amp with these?

>380 is neutral
who started this?

Can't stand this fucking guy. Just listen to his voice.

d-dont bully metal kun please

They should be fine without one.
Thicc Papa

s-sorry

>Budget
Up to about $80, may consider slightly more if really worth it.
>Location
Poland, so shit is expensive.
>Source
PC with onboard audio.
>Type of headphone
Fullsize.
>Open or closed
Preferably closed, but I don't outright reject open.
>Comfort level
Pretty comfortable (wearing them for half a day).
>Sound signature
I think neutral, but I'm not really sure.
>Past headphones
Philips SHP2500
Sennheiser HD201
Takstar HI2050
The Takstar ones just broke (the usual problem - sound coming from only one headphone due to shitty cables). I'd prefer something really durable (especially when it comes to the cables), since I'd rather not replace them soon.

Get a soldering iron, dummy.

>Would it be worth it to buy a portable amp with these?
They work fine without, and I used mine without for a year or so.

Then I got a fulla2 and yes, they sound even better.

Fix your Takstars with a soldering iron or Status CB-1 (Status NC27 on Amazon.de)

Do any of you know where I can find MDR-Z7 drivers?

Check with Sony directly through their Support line.

can I use something like this with my E10K to make it with 2 devices simultaneously via USB?

OEM MH2001 5-in-1 master race

doubt it

No.

Also, if you wanted an aux input (line-in jack), you should have gotten yourself a Fulla 2.

>mfw listening to Naked & Wired (1991) 24/192000 FLAC on Sennheiser Orpheus

Garbage compare to Rock Zircons. Rock's cable is actually decent and not microphonic

It's interesting the ZS3 would have microphonic issues when the lower end ATE and ATR do not.

Do you guys not loop around your ear?

Is VBR good?

>Budget
Up to $80 (USD). Preferably around $60 though.
>Location
United States
>Source
PC's onboard audio
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Pretty comfy desu. Not a huge deal but I'll be wearing them a lot.
>Sound signature
Pretty neutral but a bit of bass isn't a bad thing at all. As long as it isn't Beats level that's fine.
>Past headphones
JVC HA-RX700
Sony MDR-XB400
Some Koss Thing
Garbage

Currently on the JVCs right now but the pads are falling apart and one of the hinges has snapped. It's held together with electrical tape right now. I just want something that surrounds my ears.

Any place to buy them is a-ok. Just not used.

>$80

They're not open but the koss porta pro destroys any closed headphone around that price imo.

I should've been more specific. I want around the ear headphones like my current JVCs.

Somic MM185/Status CB-1

Any real difference between the two? Amazon reviews say the first is the same as the second, just different branding.

What's the point of $500+ headphones when a pair of cheaper JBL LSR 305 beats them in every single way?

They exactly the same. The Status has a detachable cable, Somic doesn't. I'd also take a look at XPT100's.

Found a seller for the Somic for $35, but the store is probably sketchy and it just launched:

amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B071V7NV4H/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=new

On a scale of 1 to 10 how much would I get ripped off if I bought these?

Superlux HD-685

I'm really happy with the HD600. This is it, I don't need to go deeper into the rabithole, right?

Sorry, I don't know much about cheaper closed headphones. Someone will help you out I'm sure.

You don't have to if you don't want to. I've been in Poor-Fi hell with PortaPros, 668B/681/SR950 and now about to grab Superlux 562's to replace these PortaPros. This cheap shit's surprisingly good.

-$35 gone forever

What's the point in coming into this thread when you don't give a shit about headphones? headphones are their own thing. They're fun and direct. I prefer direct sound over speakers when it comes to music.

>-$35 gone
B-but that means user got $35 back!

I've spent a a lot of money on headphones and amps and the 600 has been my endgame for fucking ages. If you're happy with the minimal bass then you will never need to change them. What amp do you use?

Just from look of those headphones I can say that they are bad, not exactly your model, but company in general.
I recommend you to buy ISK or SUPERLUX.
I bought ISK HP2011 for $40, good frequency response and feedbacks.

Just look at this.

Portapros were pretty cool, my pads disintegrated over time, however.
I'm using the E10k as a placeholder. A >friend let me try out the Stack but I'm not sure if I really want to drop that much shekels for it. I've had them for 6 months now, very satisfied. I also didn't pay the almost $400 price on it, I got them back when they were $260 or so.

I have LSRs on desk but I use headphones with laptop in any other part of apartment or when I want LOUD at night.

What kind of sound do you want? Lot's of bass, or more like monitoring headphones?

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There is nothing better.

Other than the HD650.

I had the e10k too when I bought them, it's a great amp for what it is, but the fulla 2 is better, it costs a lot more for Europeans but it's worth it imo. The highs are less harsh and the bass is better. 600+fulla 2 is my endgame.

Great headphone but they're mud city compared to the 600.

My pads are shitting the bed a little too. They're starting to preserve the indentations from my ears after only 2 months.

>Budget 100-200
>Location France
>Source Mostly mobile and PC
>Type of headphone Whatever
>Open or closed Closed
>Comfort level Comfy
>Sound signature I dont know
>Past headphones ATH M50X but broken of rage because im autistic

>recommending the deliberately inferior version for casuals who can't handle neutrality

top kek

literally this lmao. 650's are normie mode compared to the 600.

>Past headphones ATH M50X but broken of rage because im autistic
I recommend you shot yourself. I bet you broke them after getting a fit losing in gayme.

Neutrality is a meme.

>Neutrality is a meme.

To a degree , but the 600 adds a little bit of warmth, which makes them incredible.

Yes

>Budget

$200, flexible

>Location

USA

>Source

Phone, shitty tablet, and laptop.

>Type of headphone

IEM

>Comfort level

I would like to have some pretty comfortable headphones, so sound quality is not as important to me.

>Past headphones

Apple earbuds: These things really hurt my ears.
Monoprice 9927: Compared to the earbuds these ones sounded bad, but were slightly more comfortable.
Koss Porta Pros: I really enjoyed these and am not opposed to having headphones instead of IEM. I liked that these were comfortable and had pretty great sound.

The big issue I have with headphones is I tend to fuck up the cables and connector. I end up bending the connector and then I have to move the cable around to a certain position to have sound come out. This happened to my Porta Pros. I fixed the connector, but the cable is still kinda fucked.

Zeos said the ATH M40x are great for it's price, is that true? How good does Sup Forums think they are?

24bit 192kHz is a fucking meme dude, big time. Enjoy taking dicks in the ass just to afford storage space for one fucking song.

I have a few questions
I got a 770 (250 Ohm) as my first high end cans, tried them for a couple of hours and they sounded worse than a 2$ earphone chink cable, my laptop couldn't drive them at all, bass was not existent and the songs sounded like whispers.
So I packed them and ordered a fiio e10, it's the cheapest amp, and was recommended everywhere (fulla was an option but it costs more than double the e10k to have it delivered to my country, not counting taxes)
The e10k definitely drives them like a champ, but they sounded so generic, I don't know how to describe it in an audiophile terms, but they were so boring and the sound was so boring.
I read about burn in, thought that was some kind of gimmick, so I left home today with a 12 hour playlist and returned and holy shit, these things sound much more fun, I never want to take them off, every things sounds much more clearer. the bass is heavier and the details are much clearer in all types of songs.
the e10 at half the volume sounds pretty loud, while having it at max at first didn't sound too loud.

final q:
h gain and l gain:
is there a point of using h gain ever?

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Just got my Monolith M1060 and Monoprice 11567 combo. It's pretty great let me tell ya. The headphones themselves are comfy as fuck. And they sound amazing, a huge upgrade from Sennheiser HD598s and a Sound Blaster Z. Maybe it's just because I haven't heard $10,000 Stax or whatever, but I find it hard to believe it can get much better from here. Sure, the sound signature could change, but that's about it. These things sound so clear. Huge soundstage too. Only downside is spending $400 on headphones I guess.

*crack*