Let's Talk About VPNs

Looking to invest in a VPN to satisfy my privacy needs. Which is the best VPN and why?

Right now I'm thinking about VPNSecure or PureVPN that you can get for dirt cheap on XDA Depot. Anyone have experience with those?

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gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29

What exactly do you want to do with a VPN?

Sure as hell ain't gonna be shitposting. I have to disable mine to do that.

Do you want to pirate stuff and escape lawyers or just for privacy itself?

OP here. Looking for something that won't gimp my download speeds and latency while I browse and pirate, while still being affordable. Basically I just want to do my stuff in peace, safe from spying eyes.

awwww shit

I use AirVPN. It's fairly cheap, fast (although you will always lose a bit of speed with a VPN, and has a very easy Client with a Network Lock feature.

Obviously I don't want to shill it, but it's one of the most foolproof VPNs out there

Thanks for the answer, I'll look into it. It looks to be quite cheap as well.

It seems like ExpressVPN is being reccommended a lot.

two questions: I have two VPN's, is there any advantage to using them together? My IP > VPN1 > VPN2, would that hide my address even more or is that not possible?

Also, what protects you from the FBI or NSA going up to these small companies and offering to buy all their data? They're private companies out to make money, so if the FBI offers money, why not take it? Of course, companies who don't keep logs can't do that, but everyone else...

No, in the end you still connect to a VPN with your real IP

Nothing protects them, you are transferring your trust from your ISP to your VPN. But not being headed in the US is always a plus

>But not being headed in the US is always a plus

Sure, as in there's no way to find some legal recourse to confiscate logs and shit, but that's not much. I'm not talking about the FBI legally obtaining records of your IP, I'm talking about them just dropping money under the table to get a guy they're really after. My VPN costs me $60/year, which is peanuts compared to the FBI coming up to you and saying "Here's $6 million, just give us the info and fuck off".

How come it's hard to find a VPN to input into your router, so your whole network is secured?

Of course they can, everything can be rigged, you just have to draw a line between legit concern and paranoia

You will never be 100% anonymous on the internet, if someone wants to get you, they will get you. A VPN is just a layer of protection.

I use my VPN just to escape copyright lawyers, there is no known case where someone was busted through the VPN for some stupid torrenting

However I wouldn't open my drug trafficking business or send the formula for the cold fusion through it

>You will never be 100% anonymous on the internet, if someone wants to get you, they will get you.

I believe this too, and that's what anyone has to think, in order to not get sloppy and do something stupid.

BUT:
How exactly can they get you if:
- you use a vpn which doesn't log, based in sweden/iceland, paid with mailed cash.
- you connect from a cracked WEP AP/Public Place/w.e. which does not belong to you.
- you use a rasp pi / custom linux live usb with firefox stripped from "botnet" configs, no js, https everywhere, etc.

I know they could still get you, but how? Always been curious.

A significantly more anonymous, but still traceable for the largest bodies:

Drive some distance to a store and buy a
Two visa gift card with cash
Drive somewhere else distant
Laptop with mic and camera pulled
Boot into tails
Using tor buy VPN service with Visa card 1
Buy a shitty VPS with gift card
Go home
Using your normal IP address connect to VPS via ash tunnel or something
Have the VPS connect to tor
Ssh tunnel -> tor -> connect to vpn

VPN service never knows who you are, plus your ISP doesn't know you're using tor. That way you can't be discovered as "who was using tor at this precise time". Much higher chance others are using tor on a VPS ISP than residential.

I'm very curious too if you do every safety measurement by the book.

It usually fails because the top criminals that will get caught through VPNs/TOR/whatever do a mistake

Like logging into a google account through their safe connection, so they know the other IPs that used that account or some random tracker or cookie that logged them and are cahoots with the FBI

It's really interesting since if they get caught we get little to no insights how they got him

Reminder ALL posts in VPN threads are shills, good or bad reviews.
Do NOT post in VPN threads
Do NOT reply to VPN threads
Do NOT read VPN threads

Sup Forums is one of the few places that aren't, or at least aren't fully infested with shills

Seriously, just look at Quora for any Question about VPNs and you will see the most obvious shilling of all time

there was a documentary about the guy running some Silk Road market on Tor, Dread Pirate Roberts, and it was never clear how he was caught (last I knew) but they suspected his VPN provider gave him away. There was a cool documentary on him, here's wiki:

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Ulbricht

Windscribe

You need to register the VISA card with your social security number and all kinds of shit

You will be the only person who will connect to the VPS, it doesn't matter from what location you purchase it

is there a way to get the free version working on linux?

arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/how-to-build-your-own-vpn-if-youre-rightfully-wary-of-commercial-options/

Building your own VPN out of you own VPS is the best option. You can also use your VPS for other stuff, all for the same price.

I have to agree with the fact that all VPN threads and opinions are shill, even on Sup Forums. You can't trust any of those, nobody audit the systems and there is no way of knowing what they actually do with your info. none. regardless of what they saw. It's all marketing and apearances. If you want real privacy, go with TOR.


>inb4 ars are shilling digtalocean

you never want to spend money. anonymous or otherwise. money trails are law enforcement's bread and butter. then there's cctv, license plate camera's, cell towers, atm camera's etc...

I'm just using a VPN because I need to change my location to a specific country, not really worried about security (because it's near-impossible to stay 100% under the radar). I went with PIA, tested it for two months, everything OK, then I got the year subscription. The following week they fucked up all their IP's, basically every IP locates back to the US now, fucking useless to me. So now I'm stuck with a year-subscription, and the fucks don't even reply to our technical support tickets.

So I went with TorGuard, same price, even more locations (I think, just an estimate). Geolocation works great, but the connection is rather slow. Oh well, they both suck, but I got what I needed anyways.

>You need to register the VISA card with your social security number and all kinds of shit

go to your local mexican restaurant
>walk into the kitchen
>take out $50
>say "Cincuenta dolares para el primero que me de su numero de social security!"
>???
>profit

Friend of mine use OVPN, says it's good.
ovpn.com/

>Looking to invest in a VPN to satisfy my privacy needs
>Building your own VPN out of you own VPS is the best option.

Yeah, just swapping one IP for another while keeping everythingt else completely the same is great for privacy.
The benefit for using a VPN service is clearly being mingled among thousands of other users that might be uysing the same server with a variety of different IPs to use, mixing it up even further.

Your subscription has been extended by one (1) month.

Both of those leak DNS requests if that is important to you.

restoreprivacy.com/vpn-warning-list/

Wrong way around frendo, you need a router which supports VPN

Well, shit. Any list of ones that do not?

Depends on how you paid for it and how you connect to them. Adding another layer means that law enforcement or copyright holders need to go through another layer. You can read up on proxy chaining.

DNS leaking, going through the VPN's data center's logs, traffic meta data. The NSA program to capture all inbound and outbound traffic have counterparts in Europe. Sweden for example logs all traffic going in and out of the country. Sweden has close to negative peering costs so other countries peer through Sweden even if it is a longer route because it's cheaper. It also allows Sweden to capture your traffic.

This meta data is shared among western intelligence agencies. From there they can find your entry point by guessing. Then it's normal police work. Find phones in the area to determine a common denominator.

Yes VPS is your best option if you are just trying to bypass a corporate firewall, traffic shaping or hide your traffic from your own country. It will not help you watch some country specific streaming services to get TV shows early because these services will do a lookup on your IP and detect you are originating from a data center and not an ISP.

If you intend to do copyright crime then a VPS is a bad idea. The VPS provider will have ToS that prohibits you from doing illegal stuff. Your account will either be sold out or suspended. Arguably it's easier to identify the person behind the computer than just torrenting from the home connection directly.

privacytoolsio.github.io/privacytools.io/#vpn

Cheerio famalam

Hello NSA. At least get a new misinformation tactic.

Use Mullvad
Every client leaks.
Use UFW to block all non tun0 traffic