Graduated with a compsci degree

>graduated with a compsci degree
>offered 80k starting
>don't know how to program at all

Sounds about right.

Webdev.

>offered lots of money
>knows nothing

Sounds like you're from the USA.

No problem, they'll hire 10 pajeets to do your job for 100 bucks per month, while you sit and sip your coffee, doing "work".

I'll program for you for a cut of salary.

Its simple, we exchange contacts and when you go to work you'll message me what i need to do and I come back with code.

"I'll be your cuck."

I always wonder how people manage to pass without knowing jack shit.

You do get to do some exams don't you?

I found the same thing, what they teach you at university is worthless for a job. What I did was start reading every book I could get and start doing projects to learn the ropes. You are going to have to teach yourself if you really want to be good.
Youll probably find youll learn more in the first 6 months than you ever learned at school.

Deal with it or GTFO.

good job now you're just a monkey

none of them required programming
for projects I hung out with zhang and taught him english and he coded for me as payment

I once had a conversation about this with a guy who had taught some CS classes. He says there's pressure not to fail people because doing so can completely fuck them over (cost them a lot of money or make them unemployable if they drop out.)

CS is not a programming degree.
At my uni the professor who was to introduce us to CS said that some hardliner say programming is not needed for CS, while others say that you don't study CS if you aren't a proficient coder. The solution was intercalated programming exercises within the modules, but no module for programming itself.

I graduated with mediocre programming skills and am currently cramming it to keep up with the MSc where it is required to program (same uni, even) :')

Glad it's not like that at my uni.
Here we have a mandatory first semester programming course (teaches OO in java but starts with basics of the language and finishes at aggregation) that has a 30% pass rate, because so many people struggle with learning this stuff.
It's saddening to see do many of the people I met fail the course outright.

>graduated with compsci degree
>Literally a nationally ranked award winner in programming
>8 months unemployed

>be me graduating in same situation
>work in a start up alone for 2 years
>feel like I've gotten worse

...

This is why CMU completely reworked their curriculum, because students were graduating not understanding whatsoever their own projects they built. It now mainly focuses on functional programming and teaching C/Assembly for legacy reasons. They've had no more dropouts or students admit to them they have no clue what they are doing

Which country?
What's the reason? No jobs in your area? Do you have mediocre social skills?

USA.
Florida ain't got no jobs. I'm searching nationally now.
My social skills are okay, I've been told I need to work on seeming like a better employee.

Dang. I'm lucky to live in an area where developers get jobs easily (Sweden).

Is even Miami a no go for dev work?

The bay area is full of jobs. If you have a pulse, they'll hire you.

Fucking google it. That's what we all do. We're all faking it.

The rate of pay vs cost of living seems even worse than Florida.

It is if you're okay with working with shit from a decade ago for 40k/yr. The best offer I've gotten so far is an iffy 50k/yr with no benefits or stock.

Couple of federal jobs in the Bay area as IT Specialists and such you could prolly get in with your credentials. They pay petty well and give you marginal benefits.

As in Tampa Bay area btw

This actually happened with one of my professors coworkers. The coworker was sending a third of his salary to China and the chinese guy sent back the code. He was found out at work because IT got suspicious of all the back and forth traffic to china.

Whiteboard primes are meme for a reason you know.

>80k starting
I hope you are ready for slavshit neighbor, because I'm emigrating ASAP

>Florida ain't got no jobs
Yes they do, you're just not looking.

Orlando has Lockheed Martin, BAE Systems, Raytheon, Boeing, Northrop Grumman, NASA, AMD, Disney, EA, NBC, Oracle, Siemens, and a ton of smaller companies.

If you can't find a job as a software engineer, you aren't looking.

>bullshit: the post
Anybody doing something like that at work would tunnel traffic through a vpn, something as simple as one hosted in his own home.

Fine. South Florida doesn't have jobs. I am looking. No one wants to fucking hire junior developers. I have sent out over 200 applications at this point and had 20 phone calls and like 3 or so interviews.

yup

profs are bleeding heart pussies mostly

all the student has to do is start blubbering about their debt and they get their free grade with some bullshit "extra credit" assignment that a monkey could do

really rustles up my jimjams because that means that they are going to be out there devaluing my degree and giving our school a shitty reputation when they inevitably get found out as the frauds they are

Move north, user.
Orlando or even Jacksonville is better.

Because of UNF, Jax has a ton of finance and logistics companies.
Because of UCF, Orlando has a ton of options and has a more diverse selection.

your issue isn't that they aren't any jobs, it's that you're presenting yourself as an idiot.

hire someone to re-do your resume (the fact that you've had to send out more than 50 resumes alone should have been a red flag), make a cover letter, and get some fucking references to write you a letter of recommendation.

t. HR Manager

I want to move out of Florida straight up. I have no clue what I'm doing wrong with interviews. I send out heart felt cover letters to companies I identify with. My resume lists my experience, rewards, and every single framework or library I've ever used. I ask questions during the interview that show I'm interested in the company and not a push over.

Does pseudocode count as knowing how to program?

>Hire someone to redo your resume

I've only seen that bite people in the ass, and I don't exactly have money for that anyway.

And I have literally never heard the letter of recommendation thing. What, do people just attach them to their cover letter or something?

Do you want to stay regional, or are you open to moving around a bit more?
Regionally, you could head to Atlanta. Live in the suburbs (lower crime), commute to work.

Farther out, there's Virginia where, if you have a TS clearance, you can get 100 job offers in an afternoon (this is no exaggeration, by the way).
Houston/Austin/Dallas.

Whatever you do, avoid the Bay Area (or California is general, really).

Any actual working experience? Internships etc?

Pretty much the connected 48 States at the moment.

I worked for a start-up as their sole developer for a year after I graduated. Started as an internship that turned into full-time work with the pay of an intern. I left after they didn't pay me on time three months in a row.

if it's an online application system, there's usually an option for it; if there isn't, just attach them to your resume.

honestly, I usually skip over resumes without them unless the ATS gives us a +95% match for the position.

>Whatever you do, avoid the Bay Area (or California is general, really).
Why is this?
I live in socal and wanted to move up north, and it seems like upper bay area would be the best bet.

>unless the ATS gives us a +95% match for the position.
That's another good point.
Tailor your resume for the position, OP.

Try to use keywords they have in the job posting.

if you're not getting past interviews, then you're issue is presentation. What are you wearing? Did you shave or style your hair? Do you make eye contact? Do you hesitate to answer questions? What questions are you asking? Did you do any research on the company and position?

there's a lot of things that are taken into account, those are just some that I look at. Only other thing I would suggest is asking what recommendations they'd make after interviewing you; find out what you did wrong or right and apply it to next time (for me, that question alone shows initiative and willingness to learn and cooperate, which is a huge plus).

>tfw college junior with no internships or any experience on resume
>can't get an internship without experience
HELP

>I have no clue what I'm doing wrong with interviews.

They probably received tons of applicants.

I did a recorded video interview and have done a lot of phone interviews.

I shave, shower, brush my teeth, comb, and put product in my hair every time.

Never hesitate on question answering. I ask what an average day is like, how they've handled emergency situations in the past, and what they do for lunch. I usually research companies while writing cover letters to them.

I know this feel user, but if its through education they dont care too much about experience, so try to get some down during your education years. maybe job fairs at your place. the only things I could find here are things that arent in my field at all though, even though hire rate is supposed to be 'over 90%' on this study

I thought CompSci was about neither computer nor science, so you should be alright

my uni did the exact fucking opposite, the department was under funded and under staffed so the professors tried to make the classes pretty tough

Meanwhile administration was building multi million dollar snack shops

>graduated with software engineering degree
>jobless
>have two apps on the market
>did a few hackathons
>people tried to mooch off my code all the time in classes
>tried to avoid group work because I did everything

cry me a river

>tfw recent cs grad with projects from web dev to ai
>took an MIS job
60k

Fuck me I'm going to be poor and lose my credibility. Pigeon holed into the world of boring corporate work.
Oh well. Gotta put food on the table and pay rent.

I want to work on AI Sup Forums. What degree would help me the most.

I already got a cumfy welding job I just want to do this in my off time but spend a lot of hours into it.

really depends from uni to uni, most AI classes are going to be higher level and require a few years worth of cs prerequisite classes

Even if AI classes are offered, they are only as good as the professor who teaches them

Shit sounds like a real investment. You think I could do it with a associates in Comp Sci or should I go get a masters?

Fuck I love living in America

Have you ever programmed before? If not you would need to even see if you have the aptitude for it.

If you have some programming experience, masters would definitely be a good long term goal towards getting good at AI

He probably meant boss. If you own a company who hires 100 shitting street pajeets then you'll be on easy street.

If you were quality control in the US and have to clean up after them it might not be such a great job. All the sudden your cumfy day turns into 18 hours of reading code that was made to depicting the Cossack rebellion of 1615 because pajeet took too much time shitting his guts out from his diarrhea infested water ration he has to earn by selling old tires.

I programmed before just nothing major. I have the thinking style for programming but honestly I didn't feel too challenged by the various silly app creation contracts out there. AI seems to be a high enough goal to push myself but isn't extremely out of reach

POO POO

I would recommend getting a bs in software engineering, then go for the masters, possibly at a uni with good AI professors. Plan to take classes which you think will specifically help you with AI concepts instead of some web design shit. Anything with algorithms

Also if you find that it's not working out, drop out sooner rather than trying to retake a bunch of classes and waste your time, these college fucks try to keep students going who really shouldn't be in cs