> At Google I/O the company revealed that we'll be seeing standalone Daydream headsets from HTC Vive and Lenovo later this year.
Not plugged to PC or mobile phone or anything. Completely stand alone. Just put it on and immerse yourself.
Google dominating AI. Dominating the Internet. Dominating smartphones. Now also VR/AR. How can other companies even compete?
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BUT HOW MANY PICKLES DOES IT HAVE
IT NEEDS TO HAVE ATLEAST TOO MANY PICKLES
Still could not care less about the VR meme. Tried the Vive once, was fun for about 10 minutes, honestly can't see how this will ever 'take over' anything. It's a gimmick.
Joke is on jew, i dont use anything from google, not even google or jewtube.
But muh Carmack and Abrash, technology can't program in photons yet
Ive always wanted to carry a battery strapped to my head. Thanks google, cant wait for samsungs version.
Also vr headsets were too cheap, adding a processor in them will make them more appropiately priced.
>i dont use anything from google
Yes you do, you fill in jewgle captchas for one. You're literally doing free labor for jewgle.
Database when?
It's going to be about as powerful as a smartphone strapped to your face with the added benefit of it being just as bulky as the Vive, etc. It's the worst of both worlds of VR. This is going to flop. Google isn't going to save VR, it's just going to hasten it's demise.
So basically it's mobile VR but the phone can't be separated from the headset. Sounds pretty bad. Sub-90 FPS, underpowered GPUs (that devs try to push too far so the FPS is even further reduced), bad tracking, high cost that's not even offset by it doubling as a phone...
We're still 5-10 years away from viable self-contained headsets. And VR is going to be shit until we reach that point - there'll never be lag-free 4K wireless video so stuff like the Vive and Rift will always be tethered to a PC.
Even 5-10 years sounds optimistic. 4k should be just enough but people will still complain when trying to read text. That said what desktop gpus are capable of 60 fps minimum not average at 4k
Sup Forums uses google and goes through it.
You have embraced the botnet.
>tfw by the time VR becomes practical you'll already be old and jaded about video games and your eyesight will be going anyways
>vr
>going mainstream
lol no
How long until we get good VR porn that goes beyond just being a video such as allowing you to choose and customize your character, choose the scene, choose partners (or multiple partners or no partners), the possibility of controlling remote vibrators and linking with a fitness tracker to track your heart rate (to change to other options if one of your selected options isn't particularly turning you on how the VR porn presents it), being able to enter your likes and dislikes for procedurally generated personalized scenarios, and the ability for users to mod and extend it? For example (though not meant to be completely serious):
>select Kagami (male) from Lucky Star in her regular outfit, in scenario where you're tied to a bed, wearing a ball gag, and being dominated by Konata
>add wiener vibrator, select that you're into tease and denial and maybe a few other options from the tag system, add the length of time that you want the scenario to run
>dress up in Japanese school girl outfit, tie self to bed, and add ballgag for additional immersion
>you see your character as Kagami with the accessories you selected in an appropriate bedroom
>Konata character then teases and denies you with the vibrator possibly turning it up and allowing you to reach an orgasm if you haven't already at the end of the alloted scenario time, says appropriate lines for the scenario, and does other shit according to the tags you selected
>Konata character reacts accordingly to chosen ballgag accessory and uses lines/actions tagged for use with that (maybe including holding up a mirror for you and commenting on how you look wearing it)
This. The device provides the experience of mobile phone VR except with positional tracking, but none of the benefits of actually owning a good smartphone, or a PC. VR technology isn't there yet for a headset like this to replace your smartphone or your PC, so it's a fucking waste of money. Just get one of those phone holder headsets like Daydream View or Gear VR, or if you have a good PC already, just get a damn Vive or Rift.
Christ, the shills need to get the fuck out.
You're on the money. I love VR and AR technology, but Google, HTC, and Lenovo, are going to fuck up with this one.
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You don't need an experience with good graphics, but quickly rendered graphics.
If it's N64 quality a smartphone could handle 90fps.
>For example (though not meant to be completely serious)
>You don't need an experience with good graphics
Tell that to the mainstream market demand. Most people don't want indie shit level graphics. And good pure art styles based on low graphics requirements are hard to come by.
The only applications it has are in racing or flight sims as the "person" is stationary.
Mainstream couldn't give a fuck about VR. I don't know what the fuck these companies are thinking. No one besides video gamers are going to use it, and they're jading that market by trying to make it a normie thing.
Well tell that to OP, he's the one saying this is going to be mainstream.
Well I just typed the first things that came to mind mostly, but if you're into seeing yourself as Kagami being teased and denied by Konata then go ahead.
the other thing is that people don't necessarily use a vr headset for gaming..
google will target this to all use cases where gaming is beneficial like 10% of it
what i mean is, this can end up as a true nextgen facebook/discord/whatsapp/youtube living room simulator machine.
where everything you do is done online and together to participiate with other people if you want to
>And good pure art styles based on low graphics requirements are hard to come by.
What's not hard to come by is your level of expectations in graphical fidelity which is significantly higher than 99% of the rest of the world.
You're assuming that the technology and market would be there already for this use-case, but it's not. If it was, people on the Rift/Vive would be using social apps a lot more, but that stuff gets tiring and ultimately gimmicky. Did you see the Facebook Spaces video? It's what would happen if everyone had a VR headset, not what would happen today.
If this is what Google relies on to sell their standalone headsets, it can not go "mainstream" because the application itself depends on the technology already being somewhat mainstream. Social applications live based on their population.
Picked out mane
Expectations of graphics fidelity, if you're a gamer, are very high in the mainstream market. If it's not graphics, then it's gameplay that "lasts".
If we're not talking about gamers, but casual users, then this device isn't a very good sell. Most people don't care about VR and care even less if they're not gamers, because the other use-cases for VR kind of suck right now.
Everything Google needs to do to make more people interested in VR is make high quality interactive VR porn.
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Or any fps if you pony up a grand for an omni... Likewise a racing sim requires a wheel and a flight sim a hotas. VR is fucking expensive
or any fps where the player is in a mech
did a car have had to be mainstream to be considered over horses?
no this step of evolution needs a trendsetter that develops. humanity will consider it when the development gets good enough
And the development isn't good enough yet for it to become mainstream. Because OP says that it will become mainstream, which is why I posted reasons it wouldn't.
There is no problem with this development, as long as you're talking about it as an early adopter thing and not something more than that.
you should try a nintendo switch some time and be amazed about what graphical fidelity combined with artstyle can do nowadays.
lightning and physics is all that matters in games nowadays to shine imo
u're right. it's still too soon unlike OP states
>Not plugged to PC
Sounds like it will be weak shit with slow hardware, yet VR requires high performance if it's going to be decent. Tracking will also probably be fairly shit since it doesn't use fixed, external reference systems like Vive and Rift. I don't see anything to get excited about.
>Standalone
Even a current enthusiast build struggles at fluent 4K, let alone multiviewpoint-VR with 90 FPS. 4K is necessary for immersive VR.
I had the DK2. It was not convincing. These headsets are far too expensive.
It's a nice example of a game done by a first party developer that bet big, huge tons of money and talent on a single title. That kind of thing isn't going to happen for VR yet because the technology sucks and companies aren't going to waste that much money yet on something they won't make back for a long time.
what you consider slow hardware is that it doesn't have a 1080ti sitting in there.. which it actually doesn't need to render you a good looking emulated scene if done correctly.
remember the time second life needed a beefy computer? people accepted it and it shows its age now in the days of crysis.. but people still play it regardless because of the features and you get better graphics already on a snapdragon 835.
what you have to consider about vr that it's not about the graphics, but the visuals which emulate life as close as possible.
you feel more alife and potential in a scene with an empty room where you can move freely where ever you look, than a display you sit in front of. the content matters and visualisations matter, not the graphical fidelity and tesselation/polygon count
well there are smartphone games which are written by poo in loo indians for easy bux that look almost as good as the new zelda and don't have the luxurity of having just one platform in mind
i've gotten laid on 5 separate occassions by setting up some stupid built in shit on the Samsung VR like a moon viewing or white water rafting. Thats the extent VR takes you. still want to get one for desktop so i can program virtually.
Virtual Reality will cure conservatism by removing the empathy shortage that causes people to vote Republican because normies will able to live life through someone else's eyes.
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In the year 2030 all children will be required to experience life as a brown transgender muslim refugee in a virtual reality simulation and write an apology paper to pass kindergarten.
Until vr porn and game industries are mature (which will most likely not happen), vr will be nowhere close to mainstream
>what you consider slow hardware is that it doesn't have a 1080ti sitting in there
Yes, but it won't even have something as fast as a 970, which is pretty much the minimum requirement and the games designed around it still look simplistic as fuck. You need very high resolution to avoid screen door effect (4K would actually be useful) and 90+ FPS with flawless frame delivery to have a decent experience. Slow ass mobile, battery-powered shit will barely keep up and devs will compromise all over the place. Even PC-based "VR" is still kinda meh with much more hardware available, this phone tier shit is completely unexciting.
VR needs to impress since it will inevitably get cheaper anyway, not this bottom of the barrel mobile crap which doesn't even have external tracking.
Just waiting for Leap Motion: Orion and JanusVR
vr on a pc is done because the bottlenecks are not as important on that platform and is a good development base.
80% of vr games could have been easily done on a mobile devices with the same framerates and pixelcount if it wouldn't be done by indie garage devs which only know some unreal engine utilities
Fuck this, yeah it looks cool, but this whole take on VR it'll be like HD-DVD/Betamax/lazer discs. Popular for a short time then wham, you'll be seeing them sitting on curbs waiting for the garbage man to claim. Now when/if they ever create "StarTrek Holodecks" that'll be something to get. Shame that I'll prob be dead or to damn old to enjoy such awesome thing.
Holy shit, where do I sign up?
Already exists
Still needs full body awareness, the remote vibrator integration, and probably the tag based scenario generation as well.
What about advanced cuck technology?
how do you tie yourself to a bed
Just look up self bondage tutorials.
That already works, probably since Orion came out too. Do you even attempt?
VR needs some god damned developers.
Not this trail run shit where you get something to fuck around for an hour maybe two and then put it on the shelf.
Actual triple A investment and world building to make something engaging.
No one wants to make that leap.
No one's figured out how to make that sort of killer app yet, VR is still a novelty without any real purpose.
the killer app already exists it's called the internet, look up janusvr or webvr.
and thats called second life with a HMD, dropping VR on top of something that's already kind of shit isn't suddenly going to make it non-shit. There is nothing unique to VR outside of like full force-feedback simulator stuff that will never be anything but super niche.
Second life with an HMD, are you retarded? I can tell you gave it 0 effort.
janusvr is literally second life in VR
Valve say they're working on something. If they ever finish it you know it'll be quality. But still, unless they figure out how to make in game movement feel natural, so without the shitty aim to teleport thing they do now, it will not take off.
You had me up until the greentext
I thought it was basically the Cyberlobby from GITS