Why doesn't Hiroshimoot switch to webp? Think of all the bandwidth he could save

Why doesn't Hiroshimoot switch to webp? Think of all the bandwidth he could save

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Does the world really need another loss format in 2017? In the age were file size isn't an issue

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Because he is japanese, a nation that mostly uses iOS. His iphone couldn't display webp.

if Sup Forums adopted webp, everyone else would follow. i remember the web before moot added webm.

Bandwith is an issue with Sup Forums. By promoting more efficient formats, like WebP and VP9, Sup Forums could cut on max file size and save bandwith.

The most image and bandwidth intensive boards are porn bords, which won't accept shit quality

WEBM VP9 when. That would be a money saver

Smaller filesize doesn't mean shittier quality with more efficient encoding standards. Your argument is flawed because of that.

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Japan just can't into technology.

t. Sup Forumsirgin posting 4MB Untitled.png-s

>Storing images as video files
user please.

in newpipe webm or mp4 saves bandwidth?

Petition to jackie Sup Forums not some fucks on Sup Forums who have no say in the matter.

>webp
>video
gb2/v/

I hate that idea. As if .WEBM hasn't caused enough confusion and butthurt. At least it really does something compared to the shit stack that is .GIF. That being said, just stick to what you already have here. Big improvements for your autistic ass, not Sup Forums as a whole.

Google released a JPEG library that creates files that are 30% smaller with the same visual quality. Not quite as good as WebP but 100% backward compatible with everything that can read JPEG, so there's that.

webp is not more efficient encoding. It is shittier quality. Your argument is not flawed but the premises you base it upon are flawed because of that.

The point is PNG is also inefficient, it's also an old format - a newer Lossless format could solve the the problems of bandwidth too...

Sup Forums gets to live another day without bandwith eating away at the budget.
I think that's a better outcome than reduced compatibility for legacy dumbphones.

>webp is not more efficient encoding. It is shittier quality

Factually false. See attached image.

flif?

I meant that while it is more efficient encoding, it is also a shittier image quality.

>I meant that while it is more efficient encoding, it is also a shittier image quality.
Factually false.

Sup Forums is always behind the times when it comes to tech

it took years to get webm

But it's not. If you just look at OP you can see that, and if you actually do a side by side comparison instead of just trusting that pic, you can see it even moreso

that sounds perfect
we minimize file sizes and lose the ifags
two for one bandwidth saving deal

>He actually thinks there are budget problems
Stop drinking the kool-aid

compatibility reigns king
the amount of software that would have to be switched over
with free software of course this isn't such a problem but with proprietary shit good luck

>it's his first year on Sup Forums
4chan has been having money problems through the years. Even then, there's nothing bad to save money with more efficient formats in place.

iirc H264 can do a lossless mode and can definitely do 4:4:4.
If VP8/VP9 can do the same, we could just use that in lossless instead of lossy (or allow both?)

don't forget 256colors max vs. hi10p.

Donate or Die was a mistake.

>still no VP9

Sup Forums was one of the first places to use webm instead of gifs m88.

reddit users were stunned and started to incorporate it into their various image hosts later, mostly fucking it up by obfuscating with '.gifv' bullshit and forced JS players.

Yeah and without sound for a while because muh screamers and technically an image board muh videos so moot was single handedly responsible for the proliferation of soundless versions of webms.

>Think of all the bandwidth he could save
Going back to 1-1.5MB upload limit for most boards seems like a better solution.

It would also greatly improve the experience.

>Sup Forums switches to webp
>My entire collection of smug anime girls and pepes totaling in at over 10,000 images are all in jpeg

He wouldn't dare

Reducing file size limits must be coupled with adoption of more efficient file formats so that existing content could be preserved of at least similar quality.
Cutting upload size in half means many VP8 webms won't have a place without destroying the quality considerably. VP9 could save them.

Between 1.5-1.8 could be better when the more efficient alternative formats aren't exatly 200% more efficient.

This takes forever to encode, damn.

>Bandwith is an issue with Sup Forums.
Proof? As I thought, you have nothing.

>Think of all the bandwidth he could save
He wouldn't save much. Every time something new comes out for computers that can do shit faster or handle more data, people just find ways to increase their inefficiency accordingly which just turns all advances into stupid RPG scaling bullshit. I see no purpose in continuing to support that, so I say just stick with what has worked and stop pushing every new format/technology everywhere as soon as it comes out.

Batch conversion is easy.

>is.
>is2.

>Bandwith is an issue with Sup Forums
source?

No one cares about your limited data allowance fag

Not with a Ryzen.

The problem is we all have fast internet and will upload 2mb images because we can

> obfuscating with '.gifv' bullshit and forced JS players.
Hate this shit so much

>Cutting upload size in half means many VP8 webms won't have a place without destroying the quality considerably.
Good. It's an imageboard not a fucking videoboard.

If it's an imageboard why aren't you using images? Check mate textfags.

We need .webms with sound on every board.

why doesn't he add raw support for /p/?

the autists on this board would personally go out and cut him if he were to do something like converting PNG or 90+ JPGs to webp in order to "save bandwidth"
the best he can hope to save is a few bytes off every single thumbnail, no more

i mean, on mobile there is a smaller "m" version for large images and i absolutely hate and despise that shit, and I bet some other people do too

we need another everything as long as the de facto standard is a proprietary/patented/copyrighted/etc garbage, until free and open software becomes the standard in its place.

Free audio formats are slowly starting to displace mp3 even on large websites, so we've proven it can be done.

oph th′selve

>server costs down
>less phone posters
That sounds like a win-win.

>using a jpg to store image quality comparisons
>this is the current state of jewggle shills
hahahahaha kys


but seriously kys

ouch, i can feel the feel of the shill's soul in my soul

>live in the age of the smart phone
>"file size isn't an issue"
Fucking retards I swear

No it ain't nigga. I've been trying to batch convert all my porn to hevc and it fucks up every single time and every suggestion I get is to use ffmpeg but I don't know how to write in command line especially with all the fucking settings I'd have to make.

tl;dr It's not easy at all.

jewpg

because no one gives a shit about your special snowflake format if no one else is using it/supports it.

He said webp not webm

All patents on mp3 compression run out by the end of this year and Fraunhofer Society dropped all licensing programs in order to focus on modern compression tech... it's de facto free now

The whole image board needs to be revamped but it costs money to do that. I can't be the only one who hates this early 2000s design

apng when

This board's design is better than the majority of the shit being made and praised today. Add 4chanX and Oneechan to that and it's the best forum-type system I have ever seen.

>tfw I copypasted a script for batch converting avi to mp4 using ffmpeg and change a few variables and replaced ffmpeg with opusenc to convert my flac collection to opus

Must suck being too much of a brainlet to even be script kiddie

Which is why we need to move on to the next proprietary hype train.

Literally
ffmpeg porn.avi -c:v libx265 -c:a copy -x265-params crf=20 superporn.avi

Most of the world computes on potato-based hardware.

Someone in india will only own one device, and it will probably be a shitty off-brand android. Raspberry Pis themselves are advertised for being great for places where you might not have the power to run a full scale desktop, like classrooms in bumfuck africa. Old games like the original counter strike are full of romanians and Brazilians because that's what their hardware will run.

also- what said. More open source needed for fucking everything before we all die.

plsno.

our mobile users already suffer enough without some graphic design student with no concept of either style or band with shitting some upworthy-inspired animated interface all over the site.

it works. its fine. Install your own damn extensions if it bothers you, you dolt.

>our mobile users already suffer enough

It's easy as shit, I literally just did this with all my old fraps footage. You can get away with ffmpeg alone but I'm a tryhard that uses nero aac, I should be using x265 raw too but I forget why I didn't.

Here's the script that took all of 2 minutes to write to recursively process half a terabyte of lagarith|pcm footage into loseless h265|aac.

Get-ChildItem -File -filter "*.avi" |
ForEach-Object {
$videoStream = $_.BaseName+".h265"
$audioStream = $_.BaseName+".aac"
$audioTemp = $_.BaseName+".wav"
$mediaFile = $_.BaseName+".mp4"

ffmpeg -i $_.FullName -vn $audioTemp
neroAacEnc -if $audioTemp -of $audioStream
Remove-Item $audioTemp
ffmpeg -i $_.FullName -vcodec libx265 -preset veryslow -x265-params crf=0:pools=4 -an $videoStream
ffmpeg -fflags +genpts -i $videoStream -i $audioStream -codec copy $mediaFile
Remove-Item $videoStream, $audioStream

If ((Test-Path $mediaFile) -And (Get-Item $mediaFile).Length -ne 0) {
Remove-Item $_.FullName
}

#Start-Sleep -Seconds 420 # Best effort to avoid destroying the CPU
Start-Sleep -Seconds 120 # Best effort to avoid destroying the CPU; reduce wait when pools = less than 50%

>were file size isn't an issue
Sup Forums is slow as fuck lately

Who remembers the webp guy who would reply to all images with a well compressed webm/webp version?

Someone should start that shit again

you could at least post examples of quality and maybe even some examples of encoding times and shit

The design keeps normies away.

This style is fucking golden

go fuck yourself

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Is this the .opus of image formats?

I seriously hope your not using this website without Sup Forums x or clover.

bandwith is important in thirdworld countries such as australia

There's already numerous facebookfucktards in this board, it's not keeping anyone away.

>keeping poos and niggers out of Sup Forums
I don't see the problem.

Is this real? That's amazing. Is there a catch?

It can't do 4:4:4

Allow uploads in jpg

But convert it server side to webp

The servers are already doing some server side conversion by removing exif data

APNGs used to be allowed (or not blocked anyway) until moot blocked them because of some bullshit "hurr durr it helps hide CP or spam" or some other bullshit excuse

Still waiting for jpeg2000 widespread support user

Fucking summer

blog.Sup Forums.org/post/152411853897/Sup Forums-bandwidth-was-3pb-last-month-Sup Forums-doesnt

Don't you remember all the times Sup Forums was slow as shit or just flat out broke because of excessive bandwidth usage?

Maybe you could try not living in a shithole of a country, you fucking Australian.

>Bandwith is an issue with Australia
FTFY

>not knowing it's just a butthurt faggot from Australia

>It would also greatly improve the experience.
Ausfailia cuck detected.

Ya know why he doesn't do it? Because he's a fucking liar, he lied about bandwidth usage.
No one ever brings that up, yet it's true. Fuck that gook cunt.

Here, I fixed your image's file size for you OP. The original lossy jpg compression resulted in a file size that was inadequately small.

Except that you can only use a single core.