Post your component list; rate other anons'; ask questions in general.
>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons & compatibility filter. pcpartpicker.com/
THEN state the PURPOSE of your PC & BUDGET. State COUNTRY if not USA. List GAMES/SOFTWARE you use often. List resolution & hz if gaming. Seeking build improvements? Clarify goal: lower price or improved specs? ctrl+f to see if your question was answered already
CPUs: >G4560 - budget builds (R5 1500x - generally all you need for 60fps with power to spare. No i5 >R5 1600 - best value for higher fps gaming & mixed usage; 1600x if you too lazy to OC >i7-7700k - bad value but good for higher FPS; may have heat issues >R7/Xeon/Threadripper/i9 - compute/Multitask/mixed use
Graphics: >G4560 iGPU is fine for desktop stuff and very light game >1050/Ti for low budget. Drop settings if not Freesync/Gsync on newer games; RX560 if discounted >RX570 4GB - 1080p@60+hz, running most maxed; older games at 144+hz >RX580 8GB - 1440p@60+hz, inject SMAA & drop settings >1060 - Generally outperformed by the RX 580 and GSync costs more; consider if AMD is not an option (ie CUDA) >1070 - 1080p@90-144hz/1440p@100+hz >1080 - 1080p@100-144+hz maxed; 1440p at lower hz. >1080Ti - 1440p@90-144+hz; 4k@60hz in SOME games, more at lower settings >Freesync2 & Vega soon
General: >READ PRODUCT REVIEWS to see if that cheap SSD/PSU or whatever is reliable >Consider larger SSD-only for what you budget SSD+HDD combined. Add HDD later once needed >NVMe aren't for faster OS boot. They're primarily for productivity as a scratch disk >Stop confusing any M.2 drive with NVMe. M.2 is a form factor >Go mATX form factor for cheaper board+case >1 SR DIMM is slower than 2 DIMMs
>>PG279Q is just a MG279Q that costs twice as much because Gsync-idiot-tax. I want Gsync tho
Benjamin Long
>image How do they clean up the solder once it's delidded?
Charles Rogers
Just built my new pc so I got some shit left over.
Got a: i7 4790k 2 old vid cards (760's) 850w PSU that I thought was dead, but I think it's ok, mobo was the problem. 8gb ddr3 ram
So just need a cheap as shit mobo and case and maybe a psu since 850w will be too much.
Any suggestions for case and mobo? Pcpartpicker doesn't even have any 1150 mobos listed, but they still have them on newegg etc.
Jaxon Kelly
Disregard that, I'm retard.
Blake Moore
>nvidia >when you could just wait to use two vegas in sli :^)
Jeremiah Hill
I am not poor (when it comes to buy PC components at least). I won a bit of money recently.
Eli Davis
Apparently a good RX470 or RX570 that can BIOS flash for close to 30MH/s are selling for $400 on ebay now.
Zachary Martinez
Uggh! I finally decide to start buying my pieces, and I find that SuperBiiz is out of all their Rx 570's, and there's no note for when they expect to get more. Has this been happening with these GPU's? How long can I expect to wait until I can order one?
Nicholas Hall
Fucking cryptojews fucking with the prices
Brody Hernandez
Read and 570/580/470/480 are all out of stock because fucking jews are buying them in bulk to mine cryptocurrency.
Isaiah Morales
>vegas in sli >Vega >SLI
Brayden Thomas
Here's my revised gaming PC build. I went from the Ryzen 7 to a Ryzen 5, and brought down the specs for the GPU, as well as added a higher quality monitor. What do you think?
I'm pretty new to the whole cryptocurrency concept. So are they scalping the cards to make a profit?
Kayden Miller
So my monito has a "No signal" error when I hook up my hdmi cable to my newly built pc. I tried hooking it up to the motherboard but I heard AMD stuff doesn't have onboard graphics so no idea. I tried moving the ram, removing the gpu, holding the power button when it's off. Don't know what else to do.
Landon Russell
You didn't need to downgrade the GPU if you didn't want to, a 1070 is a solid choice for a 1600 system. It just depends on how much performance you want.
Owen Adams
They are scalping cards to mine for new cryptocurrency hoping it will be the next bitcoin and make a profit. Mining bitcoin at this point in time has diminishing returns already. Unless you are running a large scale operation.
Brandon Fisher
Ditch the keyboard/mice and just use whatever you have. If you want, invest in really good mice and keyboard, don't get mid of the road shit. A good keyboard will last you way longer than your current PC or new build will.
Liam Edwards
Could be any number of issues. Try different ports and keep trying to reseat things but if that doesnt work you're going to need a working graphics card or another working computer to put your graphics card in to know for sure what's the problem. If you dont have that get a friend or take it into a shop.
Josiah Morris
It was just a matter of price, I wanted to stay in the range of $1,200, give or take $100. How much of a difference is a 1070 vs a 1060? Would it be worth saving for?
Andrew Parker
You don't need the thermal paste, the cooler will have some preapplied that's decent enough unless you've got the 'tism.
You should still go with the 1070 if you're doing 1440p though. The 1060 6GB seems like it's gonna do best at 1080p, for 1440 you'll want something more.
Also don't forget an SSD for your windows install. You only need about 120gb, so you should be able to get one really cheap.
Chase Baker
First thing to check. Is your GPU fan spinning? If it is, that means it is powered. If it is outputting no signal, try another port. If not it is fucked.
Carter Watson
>How much of a difference is a 1070 vs a 1060? Would it be worth saving for? Huge. Yes.
Jordan Phillips
I've been using some standard HP mice and keyboard that came with my HP Pavilion, I figured these would be a decent upgrade, right?
Brayden Powell
GPU fan spinning means it gets power, but it always means doesn't mean it gets enough to work properly. My R9 280 doesn't work at all if the PCIe power cables aren't connected, but the fans do start spinnin
Jonathan Murphy
Keep using what you have till it breaks. No need to waste that money. If you want to upgrade, upgrade to shit that you won't need to ever upgrade again till it breaks aka a good mechanic keyboard and a good mouse. My Filco has been with me for 6 years now and it is still as good as the day I bought it.
Kevin Roberts
I got that powercolor 580 that was just in stock. Are they a good brand?
James Jackson
I get that but I assume even beginner builders know how to plug in all the required cables for the PSU and that should be the first thing they check anyway.
Ryder Sullivan
Yes Their Red Dragon is a very meh of a card though, but their more expensive Red Devil is pretty great
Easton Turner
Their cheap cards are get what you pay for tier but their top cards are usually quite good.
Evan King
Dope I got the red devil
Ethan Russell
Decent. I swear by Sapphire but if you are in a hurry, Powercolor is fine. Personally I will wait for the Vega to force a price drop.
Xavier Torres
Would it be worth it to purchase a GTX 970 if I can get one for $100? I'm currently sitting with a 960, and I'm wondering if I should shell out the money for another last gen card.
Ryder Cooper
Building from scratch so I got nothing to hold out on besides a clapped out laptop that's running overwatch rendered at 45% struggling to get 30 fps
Charles Miller
>Also don't forget an SSD for your windows install Can't I just use a boot disk or an external hard drive? I don't really see why an SSD is needed, unless you mean for it to be used during BIOS. Sorry if I'm being an idiot, I'm only getting a grasp on this stuff.
Cameron Sullivan
Build a PC. Beg for a spare GPU someone has lying around and then wait. Or at least that is what I did before. If you are willing to forgo the price drop then get it now.
Brandon Johnson
It's more of a general speediness thing. Even a cheap SSD makes a windows 10 install fly. They are really, really worth it.
But yeah, the SSD would be your boot disk. So you'd install all your other applications on the larger 2TB HDD that's on your list.
Cameron James
It has enough power. my PSU is way above the required amount of wattage needed. The fans and lights are all spinning. I'll try using my current PC's GPU.
Jordan Green
I already got it.
Daniel Perry
Gonna be building my first computer soon, no idea what I'm doing. I want to do GPU passthrough, because fuck windows.
So, I need parts that work well/easily with Linux (Debian) and will run games well.
My buddy is selling his old GTX 960 for $100, will that work both for passthrough and with linux? Should I buy it? If I get it, what other graphics card should I get? A 10 series?
What motherboards/processors are good for passthrough setups?
Joshua Cooper
For $100? absolutely. It'd be worth it for $150. It's about as good as a 470/570 4GB for 1080p and more preferable to a 1060 3gb
If the fans and lights are on and you properly powered it (2 PCIE 6/8 pin or whatever your card runs on), then check the output on your other cards.
Jeremiah Murphy
EVGA 1080 had a huge issue with the PWM temperature. This one properly got returned and refunded for that problem. They fixed it and are selling it as refurbished. It being that cheap probably means it was broken once. It is up to you if you want to risk it or not. Ask if the issues with the temperature has been fixed or not first.
Daniel Morales
Yea I realized it wasn't that good of a deal. Found this. Comes to $460 after using Jet's 15% off promo. Is Asus good or should I get a Strix if I go that route. Also is it still worth waiting for Vega? Prices seem to be dropping already
How this look guys, was on the other thread but it died, will be using AutoCAD, revit, SketchUp, Adobe Photoshop and illustrator and maybe gaming, want to last through college, don't need 4k , don't need overwatch or modern games, just whatever on steam every now and then, but over all any help is appreciated. What else am I missing or upgrade or change , thanks anons
Hey. At least whoever took PCBGs advice the past 3 months to pair Ryzen with an RX470-RX580 can now sell it for a lot of profit or eth mine themselves. kek. Feels good being right even if for odd reasons.
Luis Gomez
Do you have other storage drives already? 250gb will fill fast with all the stuff you mentioned.
Jayden Cooper
>FE FE cards are shit. They are there so people can remove the shit cooler and install their own custom coolers. If you are using an air cooled system just get the strix.
>Also is it still worth waiting for Vega? We don't know because AMD is fucking shit and refuses to release information on Vega. We assume that its performance will be around 5-10% of the range of a 1080. The hard part will be waiting for its availability since it will get a launch on 30 July. That means the cards will only be in market in September or October.
Adam Russell
That's really solid for a $820 build minus peripherals
>PowerColor Their high end cards, the Red Devil ones, are fantastic. Their low end ones like the Red Dragon are pretty ass. Not sure if they're as bad as low end MSI and Gigabyte, though, maybe not. For cheap models I'd always stick with Sapphire usually.
>970 Yeah. Worth it in the $100-$125 range.
Bentley Campbell
>You can sell a 470/570 4GB for GTX 1070 money now Jesus christ this is out of hand.
Zachary Scott
Imo you should either get a top of the line flagship card like the 1080ti or just get a middle of the range card and upgrade in a few years. 1080 isn't really value for money at the money unless you want to buy the best GPU you can within a budget.
Carson Carter
I'm switching over from an amd fx 9590 to an i7 soon. I'm torn between an i7 7700k and a 6700k. I hear the kaby lakes don't support windows 7. ( Thinking of dual booting for games). Any thing I need to know about Intel before the switch?
Wyatt Young
I am doing my first PC-Build and have a budget of around 700-800 this is the build: pcpartpicker.com/list/VFC83F
Anythig I should change or keep in mind before I buy?
Camden Martinez
Whats a better budget case, Fractal Define S or NZXT S340?
Gavin Long
700-800 USD that is
Sebastian Davis
Mainly for games? Ryzen has better multi core performance but Intel has better single core performance.
Dylan Butler
No I don't actually, what is the best thing to do for that to get it better, I was reading how some people use sdd for boot and stuff and then use a hdd for storage, or should I scrap that and just get a bigger SSD? Also I keep hearing about the force price drop , should I wait for that for the video card ? Thanks user, first time builder here
Juan Lopez
Yeah, mainly for games.
David Brooks
S340. Although I went with the P400.
Since it on a budget, get dual channel instead of single. 1060 isn't really good. Only get it if you are a team green fanboy or rely heavily on Nvidia shadowplay. Get an SSD. And then scrap for a HDD around your house.
Jaxon Hughes
I would get the 7700k then. The only reason not to is due to the heating issues it has if not then it is superior to the 6700k.
Isaac Rodriguez
Idk why people spout this meme about SSD for faster boot and hdd for storage. How fucking often do you JUST reboot your PC? I like everything loading, saving, etc, faster. 500GB is the minimum SSD size I'd get. 250GB is just OS + 3-4 large games.
Just forget the HDD. Add it later once you fill up that 500GB or 1TB or whatever SSD. Add that $50 you'd spend on a HDD to a larger SSD at least.
I'll never put a HDD in my PC again. I just have them in NAS. They make too much dumb noise and shit.
Justin Martin
W7 blocks update to Kaby-Lake / Ryzen but it's still possible to bypass that
Going from one CPU brand to the other really is the same thing considering there isn't as much CPU-related software than GPU related ones, so it's pretty much the same shit Also, what are you going to do with your computer to requires a 7700k / 6700k?
Chase Allen
Thanks user, I have no idea I was just going by what I was reading, any SSD you would recommend?
Jaxson Parker
Samsung
Luke Foster
What should I get instead of 1060 then?
Benjamin Ramirez
You don't want to fill up your SSD, it smartly splits up the writes among it's cells, but they all have a limited amount.
If you have a small amount of free space left, you'll be reducing the size of your SSD as you rewrite files from games/system. Still going to take a long while until each cell runs out of writes, but it's a bad idea to prematurely decrease the SSD size. It's better to just have the whole SSD die at one time, by then it'll probably be obsolete anyway.
Jaxon Martinez
580/480. If it is overpriced, then just get the 1060 since AMD cards are overpriced all the time.
Asher Wood
A gtx 1060 for 1440p?
pants on head retarded son. If you cant nut up and get a 1070 then get the RX-580 from AMD
They are about the same at 1080p but the 580 slaps the 1060's shit at 1440p.
Josiah Hall
Hmm, how "stable" is that bypassing stuff with kaby lake for windows 7? Also mainly to play games. I've built 3 desktops in my life and 2 were amd, and an Intel for a friend. I've got the funds. But I'll also need a new Mobo and some ddr4 ram now. Any recommendations for those?
Dylan Walker
>how "stable" is that Perfectly stable. The block is just a check based on the CPU model so fooling it is just making it think the CPU is not among the blacklisted models
Charles Sanchez
The block is a firmware block rather than a physical hardware block.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
Nice, perhaps I will go with the kaby lake. How's the temp on these things? I'll be reusing my Corsair h100i, and that thing kept my fx 9590 nice and cold, strange for how many people say the fx9590 gets super hot. That thing never exceeded 60c on load. And idle is around 17c. So just wondering temp comparison
Camden Lee
Why Kaby Lake over Ryzen? Unless it's a PC built exclusively for gaming, a Ryzen chip is generally better
Thomas Murphy
read his original post nig all he wants to do is be performant in gaming.
Landon Mitchell
the biostar is a placeholder until other boards are released
I wish I could buy an RGB spire. Anyone recommend anything other than the Gigabyte B350 mATX board? I hear it has the best sound among the chipset
Evan Turner
Now I'm really torn between the two. Does the h100i Intel bracket fit the kaby lake mobos? I hear ryzen doesn't. I hate choosing cpus. It's almost as bad as choosing a name in a game.
Daniel Fisher
He said he wanted to do gaming senpai
Nolan Ward
>Founder's edition No. Unless you are doing your own custom liquid cooling loop don't get it.
Wyatt Butler
Can somebody explain this? If IPC is the same, then why does the older 6900k at a lower clock speed, beat out the 1800x?
Josiah Johnson
>tfw your computer is starting to show signs of age She's almost 7. Fuck.
Joshua Foster
Impossible to know without knowing the benchmark / metric and the system configuration.
Jonathan Turner
What do the numbers mean senpai?
Andrew Parker
>i7-7700k >idle = 35 >load = 71 with 79 spikes Is this good or should I delid? it doesn't go above 80, I think 79 is the max it goes up to.
Jeremiah Nguyen
draws air out of the case
Carson Garcia
How about you tell us what cooler you are using
Austin Cruz
Geekbench 4 Multi-core
Connor Garcia
This is at 5.1Ghz I forgot to add. Hello Ncase M1 bro.
Mason Perez
Corsair H100i.
Asher Evans
but what motherboards? what ram? it all affects the score user
Isaiah Reyes
How about you go find some proper benchmark. Especially for shit that you are using it for? Gaming a lot? Look at games being benchmark with said CPU. Looking at random numbers means nothing.
Anthony Barnes
Well it is still that high, it is time to DELID THIS
Wyatt Richardson
Thing is if its running at 4.2 it only gets to like 71 tops, but if its running 5.1 it gets pretty hot. I think I shouldn't even OC it.
Benjamin Miller
Intel. Building housefires since ever
Austin Cooper
Is there any good power monitor for EU?
Only ones I find are rated for
Gabriel Cox
Delidding sounds pretty nerve wracking. Can you give me a quick rundown on the process?
David Ramirez
Im running my computer with no case fans because of how bs loud the default ones were. so ive got one fan on my cpu cooler (212 evo), my gpus stock cooler and a fanless psu. Shouldnt be an issue right? it doesnt seems to get too hot. I mainly worry about the hdds though since i have a lot of them (4 +1ssd
