OFFICIAL Debian 9 Stretch Release Party

Part 3: Pizza Party edition!
old: Wheezy is now EOL status.
Jessie will become oldstable and Stretch will become stable at 06:00 GMT
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debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#minimal-upgrade
packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-linux-nonfree
packages.debian.org/jessie/xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
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packages.debian.org/jessie/perl-base
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>Debian
>party

Umaru a shit just like your OS

I've updates my sources.list. There are 3 security updates and 2561 upgradable packages.

Aptitude (ncurses) keeps calculating dependencies and does not stop. It was running for ~3 hours and used 8G of physical RAM and 6G swap.

I tried this:
>aptitude full-upgrade
And this shows a lot of broken packages. Then it "fails to find a solution in the allotted time" and asks me if I would like to resolve the dependencies manually.
Resolve these dependencies by hand? [N/+/-/_/:/?] :
The following ESSENTIAL packages will be BROKEN by this action:
perl-base : Breaks: perl-modules (< 5.24.1~) but 5.20.2-3+deb8u7 is installed.
Breaks: perl-modules:i386 (< 5.24.1~) which is a virtual package.
findutils : Breaks: libpython3.4-minimal (< 3.4.4-2) but 3.4.2-1 is installed.

WARNING: Performing this action will probably cause your system to break!
Do NOT continue unless you know EXACTLY what you are doing!
To continue, type the phrase "I am aware that this is a very bad idea":

Abort.

Using other options like apt-get upgrade, apt dist-upgrade does not give me thse conflicts.

Is there any way to resolve this?

upgrading from 8.8

I just dist-upgraded with apt-get and nothing broke, stop being a fucking baby.

Also, maybe you should read what packages are being "broken".
It's nothing critical to the operating system.

wiki.debian.org/LTS
Wheezy is on LTS till May 2018...

if you're not on x86 or arm, it's already EOL

Who will post first fresh install? Did that happen already?

I want her to tug on my foreskin like that.

>Also, maybe you should read what packages are being "broken".
I did.
>It's nothing critical to the operating system.
see
it's definitely critical, how the fuck will it run if perl doesn't?

stretch has been in freeze since october of last year, you can install it right now if you want

I can guarantee it won't fuck your system.
Just try it.

Then why does it show that warning?

Why doesn't apt-get show the warning?
You can't explain that.

Why don't you niggers just use Ubuntu like the rest of civilization?

Behold: Sweet, sweet non-free firmware.

cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/9.0.0-live nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/

I don't know, but that doesn't mean the conflict doesn't exist.

here's an idea, try uninstalling those packages and let debian install them manually during the upgrade.

I can't uninstall perl-base, it'd take half my system with it.

>the perlfag still hasn't used apt-get

Yes, I haven't yet. What if it fucks up my system?

Debian doesn't recommends aptitude for full upgrades anymore, use apt.

>Debian doesn't recommends aptitude for full upgrades anymore,
source?
>use apt.
Gives me the same result as apt-get.
hastebin.com/uluyobuway
Also, it recommends removing a ton of important packages.

Where do I get the sweeter free firmware?

Then you did something wrong and deserve it.

You do have chroot at your disposal.
Consider taking a backup with rsync.

>it can't encrypt the partition on install like Fedora
>wifi drivers unsupported
They can't be serious.

What? How did I fuck up by not installing that?

Does that also backup /home ?

>it recommends removing a ton of important packages
Dude, it is only removing old packages that are getting a new version. Like ohh, it says it is removing python3.4, but also installing 3.5.

Just use apt and say yes. Stop trying to second guess people who give you advice here when you clearly don't know what you are doing.

If you are (still) worried that apt doesn't do dependancy checking, it does. Aptitude just uses a different algorithm that uses more ram and doesn't get appreciably different results.

cute

>Yes, I haven't yet. What if it fucks up my system?
Why aren't you worried about aptitude doing the same? Honestly I would be more worried about a process running on your system state files and repeatedly failing, even when you know it will.

im back after work and dinner if anyone needs any help with the transition

ctrl + t cancel all pending actions

go into options and turn off suggested apps and auto removal

update apt/dpk first and once that is clear then update everything else

do the kernel first or last and not all at once incase of a dependency issue

if you get any conflicts go through the options

suggested/recommended packages*

>60952314
perl-modules isnt a required dependency and is optional

perl itself is required
python also isnt critical

What happens if I uninstall apt?

>Anime
Hi.
Go to hell.

it can encrypt by default
you have to load the modules from the installer

wifi issue is with the hardware manufacturers not respecting open standards

you can still choose to install these binary blobs but they arent offically supported by debian and they are legally your responsibility with no liability from debian (contrib non-free repos)

trying this.

I started
apt dist-upgrade


but I'm trying this first.

i wouldnt suggest it

tell me what u are trying to do and i can try and help you

>usa has killed 8 million at least people

sounds good.

ill be lurking around if u need help just making some coffee

also do a ctrl U to update the aptitude repo sources to make sure you are grabbing the newest packages (not sure if u did earlier)

uppdating it right now

glad to hear

I'm honestly not sure where to go with my desktop. I've had issues staying on stable lately because I kept needing newer stuff (cmake wasn't even new enough in backports for the purposes I needed it, irssi had critical feature updates, namely SASL support, in the meantime, some things with kvm/qemu, etc.).

I'm considering abandoning Debian and moving to Ubuntu for a faster release cycle, though I'd prefer yearly.

Heratic

>anime image
gb2 Sup Forums

I noticed you're posting this on every thread I started.
Stop that.

try out testing

ive been using it daily for 3 years

...

I'm not a big fan of rolling releases because then breakage may come at random, rather than at pre-defined intervals of six months/whenever the next release is.

hows it going user?

did you clear pending actions?
start from the core packages like dpkg and apt and once those are updated you can get a little more wild and update 100 packages at once

save the kernel seperately for last

understandable

with a small package base its very unlikely though but i wont assume your toolset

sometimes its nice wander and check out new things so dont let me hold you back

I upgraded dpkg and apt.

now upgrading the kernel, It's trrying to remove linux-image-amd64.

You can't.

...

you either need to update other packages first most likely

its probably trying to remove a package you need like init for a newer one but you still have all the older programs that rely on that so its in a conflict

does it have options under the resolver?
maybe you should set it aside for a sec

that might just be a meta package to pull in the amd 64 kernel correct?

i dont think its required but if you go into the newest kernel package and go to packages that depend on it theres probably a newer amd64 kernel meta package

debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#minimal-upgrade
>aptitude to update
>not apt-get

No, no options under the resolver.

SHould i just remove it and then try installing it after installing the other packages

yeah, it shows the new version (4.9+80) on the right but I don't know why it's removing it first. Maybe it's because I was using jessie-backports before.

packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-linux-nonfree

is there any packages that conflict with it?

ill take a look hold up

so is it a meta-package?
(itll say in the title)
if so its safe to remove

id have to go on my amd system because i dont have multi arch on this laptop (intel)

>not yum

I went ahead and installed everything and it removed linux-image-amd64.

xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse is conflicting.

It shows that there is no version for it for this kernel.

see above

Be safe tonight, anons

go to the newest kernels package and make sure to check in every sub category of all teh required packages and make sure you have every one

maybe one of those required packages doesnt have all the requirements

ive had that issue before where a package had all its required preqreq packages but those packages were missing libraries of the correct version

or one of those sub packages could be in conflict with another package

>apt-get install iceweasel
>iceweasel
>welcome to firefox esr
iceweasel dead?

nah, this is weird.

This has no stretch version.

packages.debian.org/jessie/xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse

xorg-input-evdev doesnt work in vms?

iceweasel is a backport so its slower than rolling obviously

The rebranding was no longer necessary. In 8 iceweasel was just a link to firefox and it's not even in the repos for 9. They did however remove seamonkey which is lame.

I'm trying to manually update xserver-xorg-input-evdev and it recommends removing these packages:

Remove the following packages:
1) libavahi-client3:i386
2) libcups2:i386
3) libdbus-1-3:i386
4) xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
5) xserver-xorg-video-modesetting
6) xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion

my audio isn't worknig either.. about to fuck this shit.. back to shit that works..

im pretty sure those are all depreciated so its safe to remove

modesetting isnt required and the others are i386 which are being phased out

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] y
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libinput-bin{a} libinput10{a} liblz4-1:i386{a} liblzma5:i386{a} libwacom-common{a} libwacom2{a} libxfont2{a} xserver-xorg-input-libinput{a}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
libavahi-client3:i386{a} libcups2:i386{a} libdbus-1-3:i386{a} xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse{a} xserver-xorg-video-modesetting{a}
The following packages will be upgraded:
dbus libdbus-1-3 libdbus-1-dev xserver-common xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-intel
xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-qxl
xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
libwacom-bin libwacom-bin:i386 xserver-xorg-legacy
30 packages upgraded, 8 newly installed, 5 to remove and 2492 not upgraded.
Need to get 10.7 MB/11.5 MB of archives. After unpacking 137 kB will be used.

Let me guess:
>Everyone will try to upgrade
>Broken packages galore
>They'll have to reinstall
>They'll somehow defend Debian as "Stable"

k

whats silicon motion?

i guess i assumed u were using a amd or something

you shouldnt remove that if thats for your gpu

why did you choose all the xorg-video- packages

just get nouveu for nvidia or the amd or intel

otherwise everything looks alright its just a little more bloated choosing the whole xorg-video-*

Guess I tried Debian and it's just Ubuntu but harder for no reason. Why use it?

No more broken packages after it removed vmmouse. Trying to update kernel now.

No, using Skylake with integrated graphics.

I think debian installs everything, just in case.

You should stop posting uncalled for and off topic anime pictures outside of Sup Forums.

>not using a rolling release
fucking plebs

> want to upgrade perl to 5.26
> XORG WILL BE REMOVED
what to do

cool :)

should be smooth sailing now bro

pretty sure your issue was vmmouse i think its depreciated and libinput now has the features built in

let me know if u have any other issues

> This release includes numerous updated software packages, such as:
> Firefox 45.9 (in the firefox-esr package)
kek

be more specific and i can try and help you

I will, thanks!

see

Wat, my Stretch install has 52esr.

ill be back in about 5mins if anyone needs more help with the transition

I'm not breaking any rules, you however...

everything go alright?

generally if theres any breakages itll happen in a major release (first number 7>8>9>10

so you should just be able to apt update apt upgrade without worry till the next major release

minor release transitions 9.1>9.2>9.3 are very reliable

it still shows me this:
Resolve these dependencies by hand? [N/+/-/_/:/?]
The following ESSENTIAL packages will be BROKEN by this action:
perl-base : Breaks: perl-modules (< 5.24.1~) but 5.20.2-3+deb8u7 is installed.
Breaks: perl-modules:i386 (< 5.24.1~) which is a virtual package.
findutils : Breaks: libpython3.4-minimal (< 3.4.4-2) but 3.4.2-1 is installed.

WARNING: Performing this action will probably cause your system to break!
Do NOT continue unless you know EXACTLY what you are doing!
To continue, type the phrase "I am aware that this is a very bad idea":


I'm doing it anyway.

After I type "I am aware that this is a very bad idea" it just keeps looping, it shows me the list of programs to be installed and then shows me the warning again and asks me to verify again. Why is this happening?

>apt update apt upgrade
Yeah, you can even do that when a major realese drops! Of course if you insist on using aptitude when it just isn't up to it then you might have to waste you time jumping through a bunch of pointless hoops. LOL!

>installing beta software on a production machine

hastebin.com/umuwuxasam

perl-base is required but perl-modules isnt

i actually consider perl-modules to be a viable attack surface which is troubling

it's all here
packages.debian.org/jessie/perl-base

I'm tyring to remove it annnnnyway but it keeps looping and asking me to type "I am aware that this is a very bad idea"