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>get GANOOlinux booting on new Surface Pro >type cover doesn't work Well shit.
Kevin Murphy
what's rms up to
Camden Ward
At a job interview, they had a fucking personality profile of me ready. They knew my twitter handle, FB, YT channel, everything. Somehow knew about arrests, medical conditions, that my parents had divorced, past jobs I didn't put on the resume, and that I wasn't a property owner. I was fucking shook, and just left.
I realize now that I was the one who told (((them))). At least this interviewer decency not to hide that they knew all this.
I was a retarded normie who traded freedom for convenience. Stallman was completely correct.
I repent.
Henry Baker
Why aren't you duel booting Arch vs Debian?
Levi Perry
Is it possible/viable to build a new PC and run Linux as the host OS but also Windows as a guest OS with PCI Pass through for muh gaymes?
What GPU/CPU/etc should i look at for this?
Jackson Hughes
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
Caleb Hughes
>Is it possible/viable to build a new PC and run Linux as the host OS but also Windows as a guest OS with PCI Pass through for muh gaymes? yes, search the web for tutorials
Anthony Fisher
He was always right and his predictions always turned to be right, even down to the one when he said companies will soon start to patent shit that never should've been patented (like apple trying to patent a movie shot with certain composition).
Better sooner than later.
Tyler Fisher
He is drinking Pepsi now. Coca-Cola was being totalitarian again.
Eli Kelly
What does fglt think about non-Linux GNU systems like GNU+Hurd or GNU/kFreeBSD?
Joshua Long
I don't like it when my distributions fight.
Joseph Powell
I deep down wished Hurd won. It's such a nice concept.
Jaxson Roberts
How can I download from Mega, without megatools? I want to use a raspi, and only have access to command line.
Oliver Johnson
They give me a boner, but I haven't tried either of them.
Genuinely interested in trying out Hurd someday. Or even migrating, if a man can dream.
Jace Sanders
>GNU systems Fine with me, though FreeDOS needs more love, and Hurd is what everybody hopes to use (me Included).
Matthew Hill
plowshare plowdown
Charles Turner
>uses the parentheses meme No wonder you're an idiot.
Ryder Howard
uh excuse me they are called (((jew gates))) ty god bless
Oliver Taylor
I want to play around with ssh, for learning, but I only have one machine, what do
- SSH into your own machine, as your own user and as new users that you create. - Set up virtual machines in your computer. - Search the web for free shell providers. - Realise that you do have more machines, and what you thought of as a phone/game console/media player/potato actually can run an SSH server or client. - ????
Brandon Long
thanks, maybe my router can ssh
Carter Sullivan
apulse or use --disable-pulseaudio like a sane person
Gabriel Perez
I don't know of any that have ssh in their default firmware, but if you can put openwrt or some other custom OS on it then you're going to have some fun. Plus you'll learn the differences between openssh and dropbear.
Gabriel Anderson
what's wrong with pulseaudio?
Isaac Clark
Nothing. For some reason some autists dislike software made by LP.
Levi Hall
it was developed by pöttering and it was shit when it was developed by him.
Ayden Nguyen
>Being this retard to buy street shitter surface pro
>Linux having no drivers means I'm retarded ok, kid
Jack Davis
>not writing your own drivers lmao noob
David Richardson
>calling it "drivers"
Hudson Richardson
>hardware doesn't work >must be something other than drivers
Josiah Cooper
>Microsoft product having drivers for anything other than Microsoft operating systems. You're not the brightest poster out there are you
Levi Wood
what's so hard about compiling software? if you think is hard, please explain why you think so.
Angel Gray
Its a pain in the ass to hunt down dependencies. I'm feeling like only 2% of all projects actually follow the INSTALL README LICENSE rule.
Joshua Stewart
Nothing is hard about it. People are just lazy.
Compiling now is no way like it was pre 00's.
Caleb Howard
Its wasting useless cpu cycles.
Henry Morales
*ful
Wyatt Wood
The one counterexample is server stuff. .NET, MSSQL, and PowerShell are on Linux, PSRemoting is being replaced with OpenSSHd and a VT100/ANSI convertible Windows shell, and MS wrote Linux drivers for Azure and Hyper-V. WSL exists to stop webdevs from switching to Ubuntu laptops.
MS is terrified of losing the hypervisor, cloud, and application wars. They already lost the server war.
After that Ive use --ignore-crc switch to ignore meta-MAC mismatch but throws chmod failed
What am I doing wrong?
Parker Kelly
I have set up the Breeze Dark theme on KDE, however the qBittorrent UI is still light, any idea why?
Easton Jenkins
>try kubuntu for a week >VMWare broke 3 fucking times >VMWare doesn't connect to phones (which I need to work via iOS VM) >For some unknown reason vmmon has been removed Only good thing, make came implemented by default lmao.
Isaac Stewart
It uses Qt4, which KDE5 doesn't theme. Try KTorrent or bug the qBittorrent devs for a rebuild against Qt5.
Noah Wright
Thoughts in zsh/oh-my-zsh?
Lincoln Taylor
Thoughts on fish/oh-my-fish?
Liam Williams
Zsh has some nice features. Oh-my-zsh is retarded bloat.
Liam Ross
People switch to zsh either to be special snowflakes or because they see cool prompts like in OP pic or because they hear it has better completion (not true btw). Most of them have no idea that the same look can be achieved with bash, that you can embed commands into your PS1 and they probably haven't heard of PS2, PS3 and PS4. They haven't even heard of ~/.inputrc, they don't know how to add custom keybinds in bash, they don't know that you can change the editing mode of the interactive shell to be Vi-like. They don't know about incremental search nor do they know about different completion settings.
Also, shell scripting in a non standard shell is pointless, since you still need to know POSIX scripting and in most cases bash, since it has more features than sh and unlike zsh it's everywhere. If you want to use a sane language for scripting, use python or if you're writing a large script you might as well use a non interpreted programming language like C.
Zsh users are mostly ignorant impresionable people, hipsters of all sorts including nu-male macfag webdev sitting at starbucks types and most of them like to pretend to be cool for using a non standard shell while barely having scratched the surface of bash and I do not want to be associated with them in any way. In order to make an informed decision about which shell to use, you've got to at least know the basics of both shells (and yes, the examples I mentioned above are basic stuff). There might be valid reasons to use zsh, but most people certainly don't do it for valid reasons.
Camden Morgan
This is pasta btw
Daniel Williams
>better completion (not true btw). But it does and i dont have to install 50 pearl extensions to get it and it only be half assed
Connor Myers
I wish dash had autocompletion so I could ditch bash
Noah Nguyen
Trying to install Ubuntu Server 14.04.5 from CD and I'm getting tons of errors at the start along the lines of mount: mounting /dev/sda# on /media failed: Invalid argument umount: can't umount /media: Invalid argument This is the second try right now. On the first try after 3 of those messages I kept hitting ^C and Esc after which the setup continued as normal until I chose my keyboard layout; after the hardware detection it should go on to network settings but I never got there... just a purple screen with a white line across the bottom where I could type (but actually typing commands didn't do anything), which eventually turned into a black screen. Nothing after that.
Couldn't install desktop version from USB stick either because although the live system booted fine on my laptop, when I tried to boot it on the PC I just got a few minutes of straight beeping until I killed the power.
Nicholas Thomas
what font are you all using?
Samuel Evans
DejaVu fonts pretty much everywhere. They seem to work fine.
Nolan Roberts
I've only used Ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop. If I install Debian 9.0 on it do I have to tweak anything for increased battery life?
Joseph Robinson
be careful who you idolize Sup Forumsuys
Luke Garcia
Probably. The fact that you didn't tweak anything on Ubuntu doesn't bode well. I'm fairly certain that your battery life will be better on Debian right off the bat
Julian White
Does DE affect much? I've tried them all. Cinnamon and GNOME have had the best support for my multiple display/audio device setup but those might eat a ton of battery.
Dylan Moore
Yeah it does.
Easton Bailey
Nevermind. Shitty laptop. Trackpad doesn't work with Debian installer so I doubt it'll work with the real thing. Plus wi-fi firmware is not found (even if I use the firmware .iso). Guess I'll just keep Ubuntu on the laptop for now.
Cameron Taylor
Is that Lennart?
Gabriel Gutierrez
I only came here to shitpost, i dont know what a lennart is, im in way over my head here, sorry guys, back to your kde vs genome bullshit. pbuy
John Thompson
Lennart Poettering is a child rapist, no news here.
Julian Foster
We all only came here to shitpost
Luke Clark
it was supposed to be a stallman
Gavin Mitchell
I always thought he is a free softwar developer.
Bentley Harris
When partitioning a drive for a pure GNU/Linux system: Do I make the /boot partition bootable, or not? (set the bootable flag or not)
Caleb Gray
yes
Benjamin Thomas
Lets make the worst program ever.
What features should it have? - electron / nodejs based - pulseaudio dependency - systemd dependency - permissive license ?
Logan Green
...
Julian Lopez
It honestly looks more like poettering to me
Lincoln Brown
It should be a GUI alternative to an extremely easy to use *nix tool that takes like 3kB on the disc.
Austin Smith
You don't have to have a separate partition just for /boot. But whatever partition DOES have /boot should be made bootable.
Nolan Green
electron with a c++ extension based on boost libraries.
Hunter Ortiz
frontend for wget?
Adrian Wilson
- no licence - no readme
Blake Collins
...
Jayden Butler
This is a terribly near-sighted idea and you should be ashamed. What makes you think that most of the worst software projects that you can think of didn't start as a joke? It's all fun and memes, then someone decides to implement it ironically and puts it on github, and a few years later all major software projects have a hard dependecy on it.
Anthony Wilson
is poettering the guy that farted on twitter if you werent a femenist or some shit?
Logan Allen
Add a reward/archivement system.
Nathaniel Price
Is it at all possible to get an older version of saved file in GNU/Linux?
I really fucked up when working on a digital painting in Krita, accidentally pressed a keyboard to crop the painting and didn't realize it until hundreds of steps later after I zoomed out, losing hours of work.
I know there's a backup file, but when I open it, Krita throws an error that the file doesn't exist. Is there any other way?
Anthony Sullivan
I don't see it man.
Easton Butler
teach me your ways, master
David Murphy
camel case binary name
Alexander Nguyen
-has code of conduct -displays things using html, needs qtwebkit -flat, touch oriented interface, even in desktop PCs
Chase Edwards
>tfw NetworkManager
Blake Wright
ditched it already, such a piece of shit really.
setnet.sh is suprirsingly usable, even on a fucking laptop, once you have a list of wifi networks you use (at work at home at school) wpa_supplicant handles shit on it's own