Why is nationalism so attractive to the poor and uneducated?

Why is nationalism so attractive to the poor and uneducated?

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gives meaning to their lives, they like to belong to the herd

muh false consciousness

Because when you are poor and uneducated, people who are most like you are the best security against fucking you over. They have worse access to legal redress, to benefit from a globalized economy and bear the brunt of race riots.

By minimizing the sources of friction they cut out the day to day danger in their lives

When you have failed at everything else, when you dont think you can succeed anymore, you search for the only thing you cant fail. That is being born to the nationality you are.
It is the only thing left, you start to take pride in it, as you didnt fail in it, and you surround yourself with people who are like you, who pat you on the back
"Well done, you are still the nationality you were born to, you make us proud"
People who move into ones country start to become the problem, as they suddenly receive the same pat on the back from the government as what you got from your friends.
"I WUZ HERE FIRST" mentality starts to push its head out, as at that point, you realize a sandnigger who couldnt read gets the same praise, is called brave and is given more benefits than what you ever got.
And then in denial, when the poor and uneducated refuse to see nobody wants them, they gave Nationalists bad name with their childish rants and actions.
And the normal people are in the end worse for it

When you have nothing, it only stays you the nation.

because poor people don't have to deem themselves superior and don't have nothing to lose by going against the mainstream social thought

Because poor people are the ones who have to deal with shitskins personally every day.

The rich Liberals usually live in their white suburbs and gated communities where the only black people they see are the ones making rap music or actors in films.

It's very easy to have a good opinion of people when you never actually interact with them.

Because they have nothing to lose

Because for them their identity, culture, values and history are more important than wealth.

I think it's because they get pissed at immigrants getting help from the government for being poor while they have to work

Because rich people knows that embracing globalism is the way to keep it safe with their money in the actual world.

Because they are losers of globalisation

I don't think retrenchment to nation states would help them though

hey Sup Forums

Why is globalism and communism so popular with the autistic and self hating uneducated middle-class kids?

1)Poorer areas get the brunt of immigration and have to deal with the shit from foreigners / see the areas they grew up in look nothing like it used to

2)Nazism offers easy solutions to complex issues.

3) It's a support group for people who probably have nobody else to turn to

Not an argument

Nice nazi dubblers, tumblr.

and I just want to say nationalism is fine. what I'm referring to is extreme nationalism / jingoism

How am I wrong though?

Most die-hard liberals, socialists and antifa that I've seen are mostly kids from middleclass households who have nearly never actually lived or interacted with the people they love so much

Why is family, community and belonging so attractive to the poor and educated? Why aren't they just materialistic self-obsessed nihilistic bovines like myself, the enlightened one?

Poor relative to who?

Generally the lower middle class is the most nationalistic. Not the poorest and least educated.

The same thing that attracts you to identify with non-nationalistic people. Tribalism. It's just a concept. But if you have no history to be proud of or your ancestors were failures or nomads you tend to become anti-nationalist. So except for likeminded people you are not seen as smarter or more educated. What's even worse anti-nationalist are more effeminate and won't reproduce as much as other people.

Stop bringing up a whole new topic kid

>"hello pol"
>picture of dead nazi soldier
heh, I hire rekt him guise
SMASH THE FASH XDXDXDXD

Is that suppose to offend me?

I'm not a nazi, i don't identify as a nazi.

I'll see your pic of dead soilder
And raise you webm of murder from start to finish

its easy to learn, just kill other races

Because in rich western countries, what can the left offer to the natives to make them lefties?

Neoliberals care only about making the rich richer, the class struggle of the working class is long dead and no longer a left value, they just import different people for...whatever reason ( it's not even cheap labor, 70% of somalis in Norway are unemployed).
The right wing is not much different, but they can still offer something in return.

So this is why poor natives are more right wing than left wing.
The left wing is the party of the bourgeois and the new natives.

Know this stormfag.

If you ever try to start an armed resistance to bring forth totalitarian national socialism. I will be out seeking to kill you and your family.

>I will be out seeking to kill you and your family.

...

KEK

i can really imagine pic related "killing" some big Aryan brotherhood member who just got out

lol did I trigger you?
I'm from Sup Forums
I could care less about Nazi's and Antifa
But if you want gore I got a whole folder of Brazilian and African executions and murders

Also
>If you ever try to start an armed resistance to bring forth totalitarian national socialism. I will be out seeking to kill you and your family.

lol you would probably bitch out just like antifa did when they got their asses handed to them and needed the police to help them

thats not true as you can see in europe. the lack of contact with immigrants leads to racism. just look at east germany. people are afraid of what they dont know

>as if they had the choice

it's all they have. they have fuck all else going on for them. in a modern economy where most of the brawn-centred jobs where averagely dumb people could still earn a decent wage have now been automated, there's only skivvie work for those people nowadays which pays shit.

a lot of them are too proud to do that work or do it and resent it, and they hate that they now have to compete for those jobs with the same sorts of people who happen to be polish or whatever.

the irony is that the nationalists can't see past their noses and make common cause with the incomers - particularly the white christian incomers - to push for better wages. they're too dumb to realise that the polish blue collar guy he hates agrees with him and shares far more of a common outlook than the middle class employment agency wanker who shafts him in terms of pay so that numbers on a spreadsheet look 0.075% better this quarter.

>thats not true as you can see in europe. the lack of contact with immigrants leads to racism

Really huh?

I bet those women who got raped in Germany by refugees are really anti-racist now that they've got to meet them.

>pic related

>I bet those women who got raped in Germany
The ones who retracted their charges and admitted to lying?

Is there any German here who doesn't mindlessly repeat the German media memes?

The lack of contact with Nazis leads to leftism. Just look at the people who live around Nazis and are not afraid.

Especially those uneducated and poor EU nationalists simply don't get it. Why do they hate Germany?

Source?

Im poor and uneducated and i realize that nationalism is full shit.

This is true, Nazis and communists both have the same enemy, the jews at the top. It is only due to divide and conquer tactics that they bicker with each other instead of against their common foe.

Communism was created by Jews "at the top"

No the ones who are being demonised for being racist because they revealed the ethnicity of their attackers.

Please provide sources for your claim.

I agree. EU nationalists are completely retarded.

This

Wanting your country to remain white is evil and wrong

thats not true
nazis reach 5-20 percent in the east. communists reach 15-30 percent in the east
in the ruhr area, hamburg and frankfurt where number of foreigners are the highest center parties gain more than 85 percent of the votes

Poor and uneducated are more likely to be unemployed and have more time to protest. However, the majority of true intellectuals are also nationalists, they are just waiting for the right moment to rid the world of the ruling Hochstapler leftist mob that is posing as intellectuals.

>Generally the lower middle class is the most nationalistic. Not the poorest and least educated.
Thats because the immigrants are the poorest and least educated

time.com/4202091/germany-migrant-rape/
theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/31/teenage-girl-made-up-migrant-claim-that-caused-uproar-in-germany
>pretending you hadn't heard about it already

More like upper-classes are too scared to have their own opinions about anything so they went with the Jew.

That girl is not those women nor was she present at the event. Learn how to read.

holy shit

Im a rich trust fund babby and i like nationalism

r8

God thats pathethic.
>your family
lel.
So you believe in guilt carried by bloodline, to be dealt with collectivepunishent?
Gee, were did we had concept again last time..

Don't worry, nationalism is ironic on 4chin.

No user, from a reputable source.
>Incident that happened to dozens of women with thousands of witnesses didn't happen

"The cheapest form of pride however is national pride. For it reveals in the one thus afflicted the lack of individual qualities of which he could be proud, while he would not otherwise reach for what he shares with so many millions. He who possesses significant personal merits will rather recognise the defects of his own nation, as he has them constantly before his eyes, most clearly. But that poor blighter who has nothing in the world of which he can be proud, latches onto the last means of being proud, the nation to which he belongs to. Thus he recovers and is now in gratitude ready to defend with hands and feet all errors and follies which are its own."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860), German philosopher

Im from a westphalian city and I still grew racist due to contact and stories about the more unsavory types of muzzies.
Its probably that you dont speak about it if you live among them in order to reduce conflict (who wants to be a sperg after all) and selfcensor more (I do a lot.) because of all the great personalities, friendly immigrants you know personaly, even if you genuinly believe that they as a group at a whole harm the country greatly.

AFD has 24% in Sachsen-Anhalt
Die Linke has 16,3%

You don't have real centrist parties anymore. They shifted mostly to the left hence the surge of the AFD in that vacuum.

The argument is useless because it's like saying. Look at all this communists in Venezuela. If you have a lot of communists you get used to them. Then everything is well. Look at all the people smoking 15 years ago. Where people smoked they didn't ban smoking.

Certain people and regions simply don't want more foreigners.

>afd
>nazi
l0l

in the east you dont have center parties anymore because that place is fucked up anyway. the west is doing fine, everywhere center parties have >80%
i grew up in the ruhr area, playing football with german, turkish and other children. that was just normal, conflicts never arrised. sure, some turkish kids didnt speak so well german, but thats all i ever felt as a difference. one or two of my childhood friends become a commie or a nazi and one or two of them became a fundamental muslim or akp voter.

Okay?

So they are the most nationalistic?

Why is anti-fa so attractive to coddled liberals who've never worked a day in their life and couldn't get jobs with their gender studies degrees?

It gives them a a chance to vent their psychopathic thuggery with their desire to virtue signal at the same time.

antifa and neo nazi groups are super similar about their believes and "strategies" actually. they both appeal a lot to the outsider type of people, since they give those some meaning in their pathetic meaningless lifes.
also lpt:
if someone either defends one of these two groups by for example saying: "the others are worse" he is a sympatisant of one of them and therefore his political opinion is irrelevant

>psychopathic thuggery
that's what right wingers do tho

>journalism in the 21st century

I'm not even going to fall for it lad, I'm too tired from the gym to engage in your shitposting.

Same reason the Nazis attract punters. It's an edgy, absolutist subculture. Unlike Nazis it's seen as more socially acceptable so it offers that polished sheen of moral righteousness. Exactly the moral righteousness the Nazis used to have before the kekkocaust.

oh the Guardian is one of the worst rags around, if anyone tells you they are a reputable source of news spit on their face.

Can you answer my question here I have no doubt you are a friendless sperg and part of "la legion" but I'd like to hear it from you.

nationalist groups are the ones dressing up like skinheads and wandering the streets killing people, what are you even arguing?

Yeah, I too had experience with turk chilluns.
Sometimes really nice ones, sometimes really nasty experiences.
Only got along with alewites and atheists tho.
I could write down a lot but im tired, lets just say I cannot blame any region to not wanting to have turks or foreigners in general as the mixed regions are inheritently prone to identity squabbles and retarded conflicts about their islamic sensibilities.

>hahaha liberals are pussies! let's go to this white nationalism rally and show them what's up

People won't hesitate to kill you if you demonstrate, keep that in mind

that happens when you pay your authors per click and just hire those whos blogs are so "popular"
pretty sure 90% of the click those articles gain are from people being upset after they read the headline

Can you prove this?
A question begging epithet isn't a argument

I work 50 hour a week driving a forklift and never went to college
I hate racist because they needlessly divide people and we'd be stronger united
Liberals don't wander around in gangs killing people, "nationalists" do that

ever picture itt

>ones dressing up like skinheads and wandering the streets killing people

citation needed

Leftists are the ones attacking peaceful groups from expressing their opinions

Pic related, just recently in the US

Prove your claim, because it's always the antifa scum who march and attack everyone their witch hunt deems as an evil racist.

They attacked an American reporter the other day in London reporting on the Brexit because she had a hat with a Union flag on it.

They attacked a legitimate march in America the other day for the same fascist reasons.

Antifa are without a doubt the worst scum in the west.

Give me one modern example of nationalists wandering around in gangs and killing people.

>People won't hesitate to kill you if you demonstrate, keep that in mind

So why do antifa always get beaten up when they don't have the protection of the police?

In Sacramento they literally outnumbered "nazis" 6:1 and they STILL got btfo

But they were the victims and 7 of the antifa cucks got stabbed in self defence.

nsu in germany

>Liberals don't wander around in gangs killing people

Except that they literally do that

Work 12h x5days per week earn 2x less than refugee who get that cash for free + he get free housing ( and he Still saying That this is not enough for live and he escaping in the middle of night to germany)

The fascist left truly is a cancer.

t. i get all my information from news

Can "white" nationalists be called nationalists though?
America was always a multicultural state never a classical oldworld nationstate.

Besides that, weve got differing political cultures in europe.
Antifa is different here, just as the militant rightwingers are concerning strenght and behaviour.
Then you have now also groups who fall out of that sheme, turks thrillkilling natives out of racist motivations is now a thing here since a longer time, just as nazis thrillkilling immigrants was a thing in the east around the 90s.

The News are the one shilling for Refugees and immigrants though

Refusing to report on "non-white" crime, getting caught in omitting facts, etc

You mean the ones with antifa attacking people?

Not a very compelling argument
As a matter of fact it isn't a argument

wtf do they pay you in poland? like 0,75€ per hour? get your shit together

They have terrible taste in lager too.

washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/22/right-wing-lone-wolf-terrorists-are-greater-threat-to-europe-than-islamist-ones-says-report/
news.vice.com/article/violence-caused-by-far-right-extremists-has-surpassed-that-caused-by-domestic-jihadists-study-says
spiegel.de/international/germany/german-refugee-hostel-attacks-on-the-rise-a-1027994.html
spiegel.de/international/germany/neo-nazi-asylum-attacks-lead-to-fears-of-racist-networks-a-1050760.html
rand.org/pubs/notes/N1856.html

Why do you lie? You're literally posting pictures of violent right-wing gangs and then denying that you are doing any violence and accuse the liberals of doing violence when normally you call them pussies etc

Nationalists kill people in Europe every day and everyone knows this fact stop pretending you dindu nuffin

Soon enough you will be punished and imprisoned for your lies anyway

You can't even make this shit up he's that stupid.

>America was always a multicultural state never a classical oldworld nationstate.

How was it not though?

It was founded by White, Christian Europeans

Opposite here, Western Canada hates natives because we deal with them all the time while quebec has a much more positive attitude because they all hide up north

>Communism
Alex Jones pls