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Do you guys learn of the viking raids and the dane era in school?
I remember my danish teacher in something like 1st or 2nd grade told us, that we had to learn to read and write because that's how King Alfred beat us and took back England.
We also had extensive history about King Alfred later on.
Did you guys have the same sort of education in our kings and warlords?

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I can pretty much guarantee Brits only learn a bit more about British history than we do, so I can answer for them and say no they don't really learn too much about it

Appreciated, burgerfriend.
I was sort of thinking that since we eventually converted to christianity as well, the history regarding the viking era might have been ignored outside Scandinavia.
Just wanted to check out of curiosity.

Dude, we don't even learn about Vikings, what the fuck do you think?

Where are you from, mate? We had a fuckton about them, both in history and danish. Might've been my teachers had a hard on for them, can't say.

we learn about vikings in primary school yeah, and how they were essentially savages and we were highly advanced and enlightened

We briefly go over the Vikings invasions, history mainly is focused on the 1066 Norman invasion and WW1 /WW2 though.

Briefly yeah

We, or I appearantly, was tought that once the danes settles in Northumbria, they would often send their sons to train with the irish for roughly 5 years. Don't think I've ever heard of any big raids on the irish coasts, though they would ofcourse have happened every now and then.

Yeah, more or less the same here. Except we focus more on Nelson's assault on Copenhagen. And WW2 ofcourse

Everyone knows about it but no one learns about it in school

Modern Danes are Danified Germans. They're not related to Vikings.

Asking yourself this question: Would OP more likely be a bodyguard for a Byzantine emperor or suck dick?

Yes actually.
Though I'm not sure what I learned in school and what I learned from reading books.

Odd. Do you not learn about Alfred?
I was tought he was one of the greatest kings England ever had, and that was due to defending Wessex and reclaiming England.

Yeah I know what you mean, mate. I remember specific things from class, but alot of my knowledge on the subject might be from books and self-research

You know, our country has not been conquered for a 1000 years before 1940

gov.uk/government/publications/national-curriculum-in-england-history-programmes-of-study/national-curriculum-in-england-history-programmes-of-study

Don't your countries teach you all about your history ?
Or only the highlights ?

I remember learning about the Romans onwards in some manner.
Also some on ancient Greece/Egypt too

the danes founded dublin, they settled the south bank (there was already a small settlement on the north bank) of the river liffey, known as the affluent part of dublin today

then the norwegians came and conquered it from the danes and banished the danes to what is now a suburb to the north of dublin called finglas which is a shithole

an archaic dialect of english called fingallian was spoken there until the 19th century, unrelated to danish though

To be honest, I think I learned a lot about the viking era. But the gap from when we converted, untill say WW1, is pretty much left blank.
They focus on various important danish figures inbetween, like Tycho Brae and such, but not really about society pr say.

That's right, mate, I remember that. They founded Dublin, but it wasn't much more than a village, was it?

We had a shit ton of graphic cartoons showing Britons mowing down Africans with semi automatic weapons, while the Africans only had spear/bow and arrow.

Thats surprising, you were very relevant up until after the 30 years war

no I mean the gap from the conversion to christianity to WW1 is pretty much left out.
Probably 70% of our history in school is from 1910 to [current year]

Yes I know I was just saying that's surprising thay such a gap is thete due to your relevancy ending like 600 years after your conversion, with a breif stint of relevancy in Napolean's time.

All I remember from middle school is WWI, WWII, and Cold War. Only in High School do I remember it spanning out to ancient Egypt and the Romans and all that.

>Would OP more likely be a bodyguard for a Byzantine emperor or suck dick?
But they did both

Hm, maybe my teachers just had a boner for viking history. I thought it was curriculum.

Oh I see, but yeah, I agree. It is odd, but I suppose they somehow reason that only highlights and modern history are relevant.
I can hear my fellow countrymen saying they were never tought as much as I was about specific events and people in the viking era.

What grade? I guess it could have been around 5th grade or earlier. But I can't remember anything that wasn't WWI material, or Danish writers and farmers and all that, from around 6th grade and up.

Well, as I said in the first post, around 1st or 2nd grade my teacher said we should read and write because of King Albert.
Ofcourse we asked who the fuck that was aso., but yeah around 4th or 5th (can't remember when we get history lessons) they started throuroghly teaching viking history.
I've always thought it was curriculum, but the other danes in the thread seem to disagree, so it must just have been personal for my teacher.

>The influence of Low Saxon and Dutch on the Scandinavian languages during the late medieval and early modern period has been profound. Some commentators have compared it to the huge influence, both at the lexical and structural levels, that Norman French exerted on late Old English following the Norman Conquest. During the course of the medieval period, Danish for example borrowed more than 1500 new words, some of which were loaned from Latin, but the great majority came in from Middle Low German.
The difference is while Britain was conquered by Normans, Denmark was peacefully settled by waves of German merchants who probably looked like Borat.

Also due to the genetic bottleneck during the Black Death, all modern Danes descended from the merchants and some native peasants. I have a hard time believing Danes are related to Vikings, they have nothing in common. Danes wear hipster glasses and hold signs that say "I need feminism because...." Danes are faggots.

It probably was a personal thing with that guy. My German teacher in 9th grade once spent a whole lesson talking about his own personal experience with the DDR but also general stories. At the exam this was the only thing I could remember from the classes and I ended up getting the highest grade for it, so that was nice.

I'm guessing your (ex)girlfriend or the girl you had a crush on got fucked by a Dane on vacation in the US.

Yeah, Im thinking it was a personal thing now.
But other than that, I can agree on by far the vast majority of history being tought, is regarding 2nd world war and how evil the germans were.

He does seem a little too buttblasted for a common burgerclap, doesn't he?

Shit I just remembered because of
>and how evil the germans were
at one point we had to watch a movie on Auschwitz and the Holocaust in general, and we were in the movie room with our Danish teacher. After a while even our teacher thought it was boring so we only watched an hour of it. I think there were 5 or 6 episodes in total, an hour each.

How the fuck can you NOT learn about vikings as dane?

Mate, the holocaust shilling is fucking unreal in early years of school.
I think I know excactly what you are talking about, as well.

As far as I remember we learnt more about the time when peasants reigned and all that. H.C. Andersen and Kierkegaard.

I can't remember anyone really caring about it. I remember being very interested in the Cuban Missile Crisis. I think I always had an interest in a global nuclear war. Some things never change I guess.

Jesus Christ. We focused primarily on 'muh slavery' and 'muh civil rights'.

>I remember being very interested in the Cuban Missile Crisis
min bror.
The cold war was pretty cool. At least now, from this generation perspective. Also, excactly we learned more about the peasant era as you say.
I've always been into science and I have masters in biochemistry now, so I did alot of research on Niels Bohr on my own. Which is one person that is completely overlooked in danish history, outside of niche science history.

Do you have any information about the Danish and Norwegian settlement patterns in Normandy?

Yeah, what's up with all that "black history month" nonsense? It doesn't even seem like it's about history as much as guilttripping.
It would be like if we had a "Saxon history month" because of the vikings.

How much did you have on based George? youtube.com/watch?v=l7iVsdRbhnc

But Vikings were merchants and peasants.

To be fair, nobody cared about Black History Month when I was in school. Blacks really have no important or interesting figures that were not involved in the civil rights or abolitionist movement.

Yeah, figured/hoped as much.
On another note, is the American public schoolsystem as bad as the memes?
Most americans I talk to over Sup Forums don't seem stupid, even when disagreeing.

Can Danes somewhat understand Old Norse (Old Icelandic)? What do you think about Harold Bluetooth?

Peasant era we really dug into in High School. I wasn't into /lit/ at all back then so I didn't care then but now I do.
>and I have masters in biochemistry
I tried getting into STEM but I quickly found out I'm not about that life. Going to try for history next.
I remember Bohr being referenced a lot in science class both in middle and High school, but we never actually learnt about him per say.

>is the American public schoolsystem as bad as the memes?

It's just the mostly black school districts because they're lost causes

Why would he? Danes aren't related to Vikings.

Some few words still sound similiar to us.
But I think Faeroe islanders and Icelandics would stand a way better chance than us.
They use a lot of the same ancient words, albeit mordernised over a thousand years.
And we (or maybe just me) learned a lot about Bluetooth. I think every dane knows him, it's just how much they know about him that varies.

It really depends on the neighborhood. Wealthier suburban neighborhoods have decent schools, whereas poor rural or inner-city school are just terrible. In general, we are geographically challenged, though.

Yes, a little bit.

ebin meme

Yeah, that's just the same all over the world, isn't it? Black/ghetto areas will automatically just be worse. I figured as much, just wanted an actual relevant input.

I think a porn franchise like BLACKED has to be started up but using ethnic Nordics instead. I can call it: NORDIC'D. Hopefully this would both anger and arouse you.

>but we never actually learnt about him per say.
I know right, that bothers me.
The man invented the periodic table and helped split the atom. He should at least be on par with H.C. Andersen.
But I'm biased because of my work, though

Yeah, but what's your opinion on him? He converted the Danes to Christianity and lost lots of territory to the Germans. He seems like a terrible konungr to me.

Yes? and Danes aren't related to them. Danes are effeminate losers.

Icelandic and Old Norse are incomprehensible to Danes as Old English is to modern English speakers. Also the Dutch influence on Danish made Danish sound like anal noises which made it distinct from the other Scandinavian languages.

Yeah we went over them in primary school.
Basically ginger and blonde niggers who harassed monasteries for their wealth. the monasticism built round towers to prevent the vikings form taking their stuff.
After that some Viking decided Ireland was not such a bad place so they settled, built Dublin, married Irish women, learned the language and as the saying goes became more Irish than the Irish themselves.
Thats why we have ginger and blonde Irish people.

Something about Viking settling in Normandy as well and becoming the Normans who were called in the British to help take over Ireland.
Richard de clare or strongbow was married to the the king of leinsters daughter.
Same thing eventually happened as the vikings and they integrated.

Indeed. That is generally what splits people.
Some see him as the greatest king we ever had, and others see him as the one who lost everything.
Personally, I don't see him as a great king. Without knowing the details though, I assume he converted out of necessity.
We couldn't have held the danish empire for much longer as it were, without written words or discipline amongst warlords.
I suspect, without knowing at all, that he wasn't christian and thought it would blow over.

The legend goes that a germanic monk came to him and said he would wear a gauntlet of molden steel, and if he could do so without getting scorched, the danes would convert.

>We couldn't have held the danish empire for much longer as it were, without written words or discipline amongst warlords.
>I suspect, without knowing at all, that he wasn't christian and thought it would blow over.
I think there's truth to this. If they hadn't converted they would have been left out, so to say, out of the rest of Europe. It was basically a form of catching up and entering the European "market". A shame it had to happen, but it is what it is. If anything one should go back further to the Romans and be a bit pissed that they didn't crack down much harder on Christians and Jews to end their religions before it overtook the Roman/Greek, and by extension, the Northern European religions.

That's the sort of above basic knowledge I thought were being tought.
Mind you, I wasn't tough a lot about the danish presence in Ireland, other than the irish were teaching the danish boys to fight, then sending them back.
But I suppose a bunch of them would've stayed and gotten married to an irish girl and settled, so forth.

>and be a bit pissed that they didn't crack down much harder on Christians and Jews to end their religions
This was probably the only way that the norse reign would've continued, desu

Don't know about the Danes we were never thought what exact Viking they were, Vikings and Scandinavia were just mentioned.

All our major cities are Viking cities though, Dublin and Kilkenny being the only ones I can name.

>tfw ywn be sent to Ireland to be trained and sent back to Denmark but end up staying because of meeting a qt Irish lass
Hold me, gutter.

>ywn be send to military camp in Ireland only to find qt redhead celtic witch to marry

I'm pretty sure the Cambro-Normans acted independently when they conquered eastern Ireland. The English monarchy didn't really have control over them and I remember one story where some royal envoy bearing words from the king got his tongue cut off and his eyes gouged out by some Cambro-Norman lords.

Danes owned Norway at the time, and Sweden was confined to raiding shitty baltic villages, so the vikings that came to you guys were danish.

Not sure why you're bringing up cuck porn. Must be a modern Danish thing.

I'm bringing it up because apparently Americans, such as yourself, love it, and I figured you would both enjoy and be angered by another kind of cuckolding. Add to the fact that a Dane actually did cuck you in real life and it just makes it that much sweeter.

>I'm pretty sure the Cambro-Normans acted independently when they conquered eastern Ireland
I think this is a big part too. They were age old enemies, and if one part raided the other, it would be very easy to blame viking raids at the time.

Unfortunately no. But we are also not taught about our own old history. We are taught starting with the conquest of America, not before.

The only thing slightly related to this is some mention of the barbarian invasions of Rome, but that's much before the viking era.

Anons I don't mean to kill your fantasy but it was the Vikings who introduced the red and blonde haired genes to Ireland.
Irish women before hand were plain looking with black hair, Vikings probably admired their hardyness.
The Leinster princess I mentioned the norman strongbow married use to tie rocks in her pigtails to beat up boys with by spinning in circled.

The Normans were invited and supported by the British. The king of leinster pissed off the high king of Ireland and was going to lose his kingdom so he asked the British monarchy for help who sent the Normans to Ireland.
I don't think it was fully conquered or even at all conquered by some Normans settling but it was the start of the British occupation of Ireland.

Fair enough.

I once had a girlfriend from Fuerte Ventura whom I lived with north of Valencia for a year.
She told me that if you mention national pride in Spain, people will stand up, with their hands on their hearts, and sing the anthem of the region they are from.
As in Spain is severely segregated in regions.In Valencia half the shop signs were in Valenciano.

(you were asking brits but I answered anyway). Fugg :DD

You aren't taught about Reconquista, Castilla y Leon, Asturias ?
What about Inquisition ?

On Mexico we aren't taught on the Colonial period, prehispanic civilizations yes, from Bering strait, Olmecs (1400 BC) to Aztecs.
Then the colonial gap.
Then Mexico, which, at least with my teachers, was pretty in depth.

The funny thing is Danish homosexuals are apologizing for the actions of a people they have no relations to. It's like American Negroes apologizing to Syria for Egyptians raiding Ancient Syria or something.

>Anons I don't mean to kill your fantasy but it was the Vikings who introduced the red and blonde haired genes to Ireland.
I want my qt redhead celtic witch. Don't make me come back there

Scotfag here and they never mentioned the vikings once. We learn;

>Picts and Romans
>Wars of Independence
>World War 1
>Pre-1939 Nazi Germany
>Irish Migration to Glasgow
>Highland Clearances
>American Manifest Destiny

Vikings aren't mentioned at all. Kids aren't even aware that Orkney and Shetland are basically Scandinavians and have Norwegian accents.

>implying I don't like pale Black-haired girls too
And don't forget the freckles! Irish accent can be great too.

Brian Mikkelsen is a jewish mercenary, don't trust him.
On another note, it's a cool fucking tradition; the viking ship museum here, handcrafts a traditional longboat every year, and sails it to Dublin and burn it. Everyone can voulenteer for it

You're projecting and you keep obsessing over cuck porn. Danes make me sick.

>Danes make me sick.
That happens when one of us hurt your feelings. Don't take it too hard(unlike you're grill), friend.

What the fuck, the Vikings and Norman invasions fucked over some people but as a whole it was best for the entire country.
They settled and added to Irish culture and improved things like buildings and farmings.

Anyways the Irish are not innocent either, we spent a lot of time fucking up Britain by raiding it.
We stole shit, killed people and enslaved their people.
Hell there might be a chance Irish invaders raiding and raping the picts is why they are celtic.

Then come over here and get one, Irish women loves foreigners and gingers are common.

Think Freckles is a trait form the vikings too.

Thats pretty baller.

Very briefly just like the Anglo-Saxons

Most of history I was taught in school was "Slavery is bad" and the two world wars

So odd!
See, the eastcoast scot and scouser fishermen can still communicate in naval language with west coast danish fishermen. Basically all the naval terms are identical in danish and english. I think it should be something to be proud of! Few examples:
>Fish = fisk
>Ship = Skip
>Mast = mast
>Rope = reb
>Steer = styr

>Think Freckles is a trait form the vikings too.
Well than lad what on Earth did we come over to you for? Surely it wasn't simply for the potatoes.

Monasteries full of wealth and Gold guarded by pussy monks who just hoarded it.
The ones who stayed were Irishboos.

No, he's a Dane expressing the views shared by all modern Danes.

Are you stupid? Your cuck obsession is disgusting in the same way that some person suddenly smelling a piece of shit is disgusted.

To be honest, I think it literally was.
The Jutland earth was nearly impossible to till with viking tech, and England, Scotland and Ireland had the most beautiful farming soil in Europe

Well, I'm a Catalan myself so I know a few things about that...
The language thing is normal. We've been speaking Catalan here for 1000 years or more (depends on where you want to cut the line with vulgar Latin), and Valencians started speaking their variant a few centuries after that (Even thought there the population was mixed. Not everyone spoke Catalan) Castillian came much later, here. You can't expect us to just abandon our language for a foreign one.

Regardin the political problem. I think that Spain is the remnant of an Empire, ruled from Castille, not from "all of Spain". And as such, ties are rather weak. (Specially in the pre-Reconquest regions. Catalunya, Galicia, Euskadi, Asturias.)

No, we are not. At least I wasn't. And I wasn't taught about the creation of the Spanish March and thus the birth of the Catalan nation, which is more of my interest.

The inquisition. Well, some mentions, because it's more recent. But not much.

I'd love to be back then and marry viking/Irish hybrid women.
Even though my mothers side is Norman.

>Then come over here and get one, Irish women loves foreigners and gingers are common.
>tfw 6'1 blue eyed, blond viking descend
>tfw literally handed qt celtic witch in the airport
Order the pints, friend, be there in a bit.

I think so too, but most Scots aren't actually aware of the amount of Scandinavian influences here. I personally looked into it because my surname is a variant of the name Sveinn.

North England is much more aware though. Last I visited York they had a viking museum and couldn't stop talking about that shit.

Are you telling me vikings came to the UK to inseminate the fertile(see: thicc) soil? They literally came for the purpose of procreation with the Earth.

Potatoes are from the New World, what did the Irish farm back then ?

>6'1 blue eyed, blond viking descend
Unless you are disgusting or austic you will do well. Get hammered and got to a nightclub called copper faced jacks.

Earth and saxon snatch, buddy

Yeah, don't worry lad, I'm not an autismal 4chumps cellar dwellar. But neat, I've actually been considering going to Ireland, specifically Cork because it looks comfy as fuck.