I'm building an x299 'puter and I can't find a i7-7820x in stock anywhere.
I have all the parts except the CPU.
What do?
Is Intel cancelling these or somethin'?
I'm building an x299 'puter and I can't find a i7-7820x in stock anywhere.
I have all the parts except the CPU.
What do?
Is Intel cancelling these or somethin'?
Cry
Just wait ™
:'(
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>building an X series
kek
If you have background programs, stream, discord, music etc or combinations of these and are playing game at same time, you're much better off on Ryzen.
I don't gayme user,
it's for editing.
Benchmarks have 1800x Ryzen being slower than 7820x by far.
1800x = $499
7820x = $599
Both x399 AMD and x299 Intel mobo prices are high.
>1800x
>$499
Where the hell do you live?
The highest I'm seeing it now is $470 on newegg, and im pretty sure once Amazon has stock again that it was at like $420, hell, the 1700 is basically just an 1800x they binned slightly lower (it clocks to 3.9ghz like 99% of the time with decent voltage) the 1800x just guarentees 4ghz, and the 1700 is $270.
Also wait a second, x399? Thats threadripper, you just want an AM4 board like a b350 or x370
just save your money and burn down your house for free
Well its around ~$469 on newegg. Still there's 1800 option, or 1700X or 1700.
The performance difference is ~10%, yet you'll be paying twice 100% more on CPU alone.
The motherboard will set you back additional 100% more given that X299 motherboards are 2-4x more expensive.
Me again, but also don't forget, if you're doing a lot of heavy threading tasks, used Xeon computers get sold by massive corporations all the time because they upgrade every generation, I myself am trying to justify a $330 12-core xeon workstation that I honestly probably wouldn't even use at the moment.
There isn't an 1800, its just 1800x, 1700x, 1700 in the 8-core department.
$420, $340, and $270 on amazon while in stock if I recall, the 1700 is a steal right now
>buying lavalake housefire-x
>Not waiting for Threadripper in early August
Apex kek OP, maybe you can still return that fire hazard .. er, motherboard.
Ok fine, $469 vs $599
x399 mobos are still more expensive than x299.
I don't trust AMD anyway, their GPUs are shit.
>x370
Oops yeah AM4 garbage mobos with a lot of features are expensive.
I'm gonna stick with Intel as I have for 15 years.
Why did you even make this thread if you're just gonna fanboy it up when you know nobody here is going to have inside info on why Intel can't keep their shit in stock? (Spoilers: It's because they rushed it to market to take advantage of idiots like you who refuse to even consider AMD)
Cheapest Threadripper is $799 and $999 respectively.
I'd rather save the $200 and add it towards the GPU.
I'm not a fanboy, asshat.
I just always saw AMD as a gaymen platform and not for workstations.
I still have 30 days to return all this shit so we'll see if Intel is going to discontinue the x299 series, which I doubt it. x99 went on for a long time.
Why don't you save $300 and add the $600 to GPU instead?
That will absolutely shit all over an i7-7820X.
>I'm not a fanboy
>claims superiority of a product based on company brand name
k e k
>I'd rather save the $200 and add it towards the GPU.
I thought this was for editing. You don't even need a very powerful GPU for that.
>I just always saw AMD as a gaymen platform
What the hell? Everyone's been shitting on Ryzen for months for getting 20 less FPS in muh vidya at 1080p 144hz compared to Intel.
>for getting 20 less FPS in muh vidya at 1080p 144hz compared to Intel.
Should add "with a 1080ti" to that ..
>i'm not a fanboy i'm just an idiot
oh ok
The fuck you talking about?
1800x=$469 (+tax)
7820x=$599 (no tax)
I'm not building some budget gaymen setup, it's for fucking work, it's going to be on 24/7.
All workstations I've built I used Intel and they have lasted for years.
1. I'm not waiting a month for that shit, need it asap.
2. It is $799 vs $599 for a mere few points in some obscure benchmarking tool which favors multi-threading.
It made me tons of money for a long time, so brand loyalty does matter. Not that I wouldn't jump ship if something better came along, but 5% here and there on some obscure benchmark on a super-glued CPU....count me out.
>I thought this was for editing. You don't even need a very powerful GPU for that.
You don't know shit. You need a good CUDA card for Premiere Pro. I can't afford a Quadro like I did on the last workstation, so going with a 1080 (not Ti). I've tried ti already, it works well on another workstation.
>What the hell? Everyone's been shitting on Ryzen for months for getting 20 less FPS in muh vidya at 1080p 144hz compared to Intel.
I've never played a single gayme on my edit workstations. Not even minesweeper and most likely never will. I don't look at Gaymen benchmarks, that's not what I'm after.
Also Intel still shits on AMD in single-threaded performance, ie even the 7700k shits on Ryzen.
Wow nice argument.
>mere few points
>obscure benchmarking tool
>which favors multi-threading
confirmed troll, sage and hide
Ray-tracing renderer ≠ editing application
Nice try though.
Show me benches for Premiere and then we'll talk. Also not just benches, but day to day usage from a professional source which talks about how buttery smooth it is to scrub 4k-8k red raw footage. (yes CPU still matters in a Premiere Pro setup, even if it uses CUDA or OpenCL).
>I'm not a fanboy
>but I'm loyal to brand names
K E K
you forgot >super glued cpu
thread is now about amada
AMD hasn't proven itself to me yet.
The OP was about why Intel is delaying the shipments, I was just wondering if x299 is DOA. Jeez, man. I don't give a shit about either brands, really. But I don't have time to experiment with new CPUs at this time or wait™ for things to come out. I need it right now to get shit done. My old workstation is struggling with 8k footage.
Make sure you don't use a stock cooler
Read the fucking reviews you retard. 90% of them are saying the X299 series is complete garbage.
They're all saying its a complete garbage. The pricing structure, tier structure, mediocre performance and very high power usage and thermals.
There is literally nothing on this new architecture that got reviewers/people excited about
Only a retarded shithead, aka a fanboy (yes you're a fanboy), who wants to deny the reality of the reviews and the competition from AMD's Ryzen thinks the new series is of any good.
easy user let him find out for himself lol
It's also pretty clear he did not research or is waiting for threadripper
>garbage mobo's because AM4
you're a retard, and a shill
1700 is $300 cheaper than 7820X
But you don't want to buy it because its "weaker".
There's threadripper which is stronger.
But you don't want to buy it because its $200 more expensive.
Then AMD boards are cheaper with all the features unlocked.
Yet the excuse is you want to run the computer 24/7 and don't trust AMD and you think cheaper competition = worse quality.
I don't understand this mental gymnastics. Jesus christ. Your justifications contradict each other.
This thread a bait, just marketers replying to other marketers to damage control. Btw op I too like Intel™ i9 processors and can't wait to get my hands on the best™ gaming processors in the industry and don't have to rely on amd inconsistent supply and glued together dies.
>My old workstation is struggling with 8k footage.
And you think this Intel 8-core is going to save you? lol
You'll definitely the kind of performance you can get out of a 16 core Threadripper.
Also Cinebench is not "some obscure benchmark", you clearly have not done any research and are just rushing into this shit with an "Intel is teh best fuck AMD" attitude.
Cause AMD has the same money as Intel to invest in disinformation.
Calm down you degenerate gaymen.
Reviewers are shitting on x299 because AyyyyMD has some competition up its sleeve. These same reviewers weren't shitting on x99 were they?
I don't give a shit about "getting excited" about a CPU.
I was going to get a used x99 mobo and some used CPU but it seems that it wasn't gonna be worth it.
You're a fanboy too for shilling for AMD, and I'm not. Intel has always had better performance for productivity applications.
I don't give ONE FUCK about gaymen benchmarks. IDIOT.
Did plenty of research. I don't have time to wait for Threadripper, which costs $799 the cheapest 12c/24t and the x399 mobos will be pricey, probably $399+. The overall cost will be more for me, and I don't want that shit.
I don't want a ryzen CPU.
Fuck off back to Sup Forums
this thread is about actual people who have actual jobs.
I'm NOT getting a fucking Ryzen CPU for an edit station, fuck off faggot.
I WOULD consider a Threadripper, but it doesn't fall into my current budget. And it's not available and there's literally zero reviews besides some CIneBench results from PoojeetMD.
Everything is bait to Sup Forums.
I wonder how you autists sleep at night.
Yes it will. You can preview at lower quality on a 4k monitor and it will play fine. I don't have to get a Red Rocket PCIe card for this, my friends with 8core Intel CPUs (last gen) work with 8k footage all the time no problem.
I don't do 3d shit nigger, I need an 8c/16t to "debayer" the Red RAW footage.
Go back to Sup Forums I don't game.
GOY PLZ BUY I9 NOW
BUY DIS HOUSE FIRE PROCESSOR NOW
140w is not that bad. Calm down.
I never OC workstation CPUs so it'll be fine.
I'm more pissed off for the fact that Jewtel is delaying the shipments.....I was scared that they might DOA the product and discontinue it.
>140w
>HE DINKS TDP = POWER USAGE
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Intel has always had better performance for productivity applications.
For a given price, not for me when dealing with video editing and more importantly encoding time. Obviously the single core was weaker on the FX series but the extra cores for the price made it worth it. Just depends on what "productivity application" you are talking.
>I'm NOT getting a fucking Ryzen CPU for an edit station, fuck off faggot.
I guess you are into editing.
Did you happen to read anything about how then thing can't run stable at stock setting let alone an overclock, let alone full load over an extended period of time? On water cooling
>Dinks
Hey autist, you got easily triggered there when we talk about TDPs?
The fucking 6850K is 140w TDP big fucking deal. Plenty of people use it.
Your fucking 1950x/1920x is 180w lmao
The only producitivy applications I give a shit about are Premiere and After Effects and DaVinci Resolve. Two out of 1 of those applications support CUDA (except realtime debayering of Red RAW footage takes a lot of CPU time).
I have zero benchmarks from AMD (Threadripper) regarding what I intend to do with them.>I guess you are into editing.
Yes, I don't gayme. I would gladly use AMD for a gaymen machine, though, or a personal workstation which I don't depend on 24/7.
Proof? I smell bullshit.
I've read reviews of people having issues with VRM overheating on x299 if they OC, but stock everything works fine.
Go read some regular reviews off newegg or amazon. I don't like watching those retarded gaymen reviews like GayZTwoCents on Jewtube. Their benchmarks don't help me in my situation at all.
Like I said, I don't gayme.
>support CUDA
Which requires Nvidia, and CUDA has been discontinued by Nvidia for some time so I'm not sure how that will effect you.
>CUDA discontinued
What the fuck are you even talking about?
Why are people on Sup Forums so retarded?
Adobe uses CUDA and OpenCL with their Mercury Engine.
CUDA has better performance. Workstations still come with Quadros.
It is NOT discontinued.
Are you really this retarded? 180 watt TDP on a 16 core CPU with these kind of benchmark results is pretty amazing.
6850K is 6 cores at 140 watts. That's pitiful.
How is intel paying for you? With branded pencils?
>Why are people on Sup Forums so retarded?
You sound angry.
Nvidia dropped support (and removed it from update packs) for NVCUENC around early 2015 in exchange for NVENC. CUDA seems to be a general term that includes these encoder chips. So any software you have that never made the switch is going to be fucked.
The 12 core is also 180w TDP lmao idiot.
6850k is like 4 year old tech.
$0.
>Adobe
>Dropping support for CUDA
yeah good luck kiddo.
Do you even know how much money nGreedia makes from CUDA?
Oh, I see. With branded pencils and otaku pin badges.
Kill yourself.
Nope.
Kys.
you first
I said they dropped NVCUENC for NVENC, which seems to have a lot to do with CUDA. Anyway I'm sure Adobe has enough money to stay on top of that shit, considering how much money they are make now with their subscription shit. But apparently Sony Vegas has not.
>Ryzen has proven itself to be the workstation king of the generation in review after review after review
>YEAH BUT AMD IS FOR GAMING, ISN'T IT??? I'M NOT A FANBOY I SWEAR
You're not, just a moron who can't be bothered to read reviews for the tech he's buying.
Should also say that the NVENC performance is the same from 1050 through 1080ti.
>GAYming! GAYME.
OP why are you so fucking insecure about your sexuality
I'm not a fanboy. I only like Intel because intel's my favorite brand but I'm not a fanboy. Also AMD sucks because I like intel, however once again, I'm not a fanboy
This guy is right. The gap between r7 and TR is to big. Hopefully the mobo manufacturers sabotage this platform.
What is your goddamn point nigger?
No one in the pro field buys a ryzen. Sorry, it's for enthusiasts.
Yeah it's a known issue Jewtel uses shit TIM in between the heat spreader and the die.
You think I'll have issues with Noctua DH14? I'll go AIO if I have issues.
Because you retards at Sup Forums keep posting gayming benchmarks.
Go back to Sup Forums idiot.
7900X ≠ 7820X
Why do you keep saying 'gayming' like it makes you a mature person? You sound 15
>I don't like it so no one else does either
Oh, I see.
>You think I'll have issues with Noctua DH14? I'll go AIO if I have issues.
You don't understand the processor, tmi does not allow it to conduct heat properly although I don't think deliding will even fix the issue. The water cooling system still had more to go but the processor bottomed out.
Sure, cause you need overclock and igpu for editing. Get ryzen or a xeon and stop wasting money
OP is either a legit paid pajeet or a troll. Nobody is this stupid.
Yes you'll have issues as tests showed it already. You need delidding first.
Because I hate gamers and their "culture". It makes us PC users look bad. Fuck off back to your RGB lights.
idiot.
That's fine, as long as it doesn't hit above 78c I'll be happy. I'll try the Noctua first since I already have it from another machine, if it doesn't work well on air, I'll just get an AIO.
Skylake-X doesn't have iGPU.
Fuck off with your Ryzen you used car salesman.
I would have gotten an x99 and a Xeon but Skylake-X comes out cheaper for better performance.
Nigga I ain't deliding that shit.
It's fine, just go ahead and buy your skylake x chip. Buy it now. If it's so great why are wasting your time here, instead of buying it? Lel.
You realize Threadripper is coming out in like, days, right? Even if you don't want to buy an AMD chip you're retarded if you don't wait and see how it shakes up the market.
I was simply asking why Intel is so late on this processor, and was attacked by rabid gaymen telling me to buy fucking Ryzen which I don't want.
How retarded are you?
2 weeks is not "days".
Also there's literally no motherboards I can look at for threadripper to see which features I need or price.
Also cheapest threadripper like I said a million times is $799.
Also Intel will never drop the prices from MSRP.
Figured this is the best thread to ask this. How soon is coffee lake launching? Will it essentially be kaby lake but with more cores?
>2 weeks is not "days".
Haha, holy shit thanks I needed the laugh. Like I already said you daft C U N T, it'd be worth waiting for to see how it shakes up the HEDT market, since you're about to, you know, invest in the biggest failure HEDT-entry since HEDT was invented.
OP :
>I'm building an x299 'puter and I can't find a i7-7820x in stock anywhere.
OP knows what cpu he wants, so why are anons trying to cinvince him to go ryzen/threadripper
+79posts/19posters)
>What is your goddamn point nigger?
Will you be adding heavy amounts of special effects to your videos? Or is it just for simple editing, adding audio, messing with the timeline,adding transitions, and so on?
As it would only help you to get a high end 1070/1080/1080ti if you are dealing with lots of special effects, which a higher end card will help with speeding up the process. And if you do this a lot then the extra cost might be worth the time saved. Other than that it's mostly just down to GPU encoding (NVENC) which 1050-1080ti all have the same NVENC encoding hardware.
>it's for fucking work
for someone who claims to use their computer for work, you are incredibly clueless.
I am calling you out on this, you are a retarded gamer and your parents have too much money.
>Also Intel still shits on AMD in single-threaded performance, ie even the 7700k shits on Ryzen.
No one cares besides gamer kiddies.
Work-related workloads need multithreading, but you wouldn't know that, would you?
What's the point of the thread? We can't tell the sellers to give this guy a cpu. He could buy an alternative but that's not good enough. He could wait for TR but he wants to wait for his precious instead. So this is shitposting central.
Yeah I think you are right about OP, he seems pretty clueless.
>if it doesn't work well on air, I'll just get an AIO
It's not going to work with an AIO either unless you delid. No heat is being transferred from the die to the heatspreader thanks to Intel's garbage thermal paste. It literally doesn't matter how good your cooler is, because the heat never makes it there.
>What's the point of the thread?
This thread was brought to Sup Forums by Intel Press Relations.
Jesus fucking christ. I thought the thermal paste was just bad at dissipating heat, but it simply doesn't dissipate shit.
Top fucking kek
Reads more like another plebitian amd poi brigade thread.
OP is a fag
a
fag
Seriously, you are retarded and the first thing that went is your ability to see it.
Buy your shitty intel processor that is objectively the worst product they have ever put out and satisfy your fanboyism. Not like you are wasting our money.
Just stop wasting our time.
Oh and do come by for the post-purchase rationalization. You will need some of the other intel shills to tell you that you did okay when you realize deep down that you bought a shitty cpu for way too much money.
designated poo containment thread?
>replying to desi/g/nated H1Btel shilling thread
Wew.
Dude just kys. Stick to Gayzen and play your vidya.
If you have nothing to contribute to my thread, fuck off. I get your point about Threadripper, point taken, but stop posting about shit that's not out yet.
Seriously. I was just asking why it's not in stock....was wondering if it's DOA or just Jewtel being dummies.
It will be a mixture of things. I've had great success with Quadro cards, but they're expensive especially the new generation. Adobe has pre-approved Quadro cards, but can't afford them right now.
My buddy has a workstation with a 1080 and it's getting performance I want. I MIGHT get a 1080Ti instead of a 1080 if I see a good deal next month.
CUDA cores matter a lot with Adobe applications (even though their overall performance is shit because their programmers are literal poojeets).
I'm not a programmer or some computer nerd, but I know enough about computers to make a judgement on what to build and what works for me.
Why you gotta judge breh?
It was either Skylake X or Xeon, and the latter doesn't have high clock speed CPUs in my price range.
Yeah keep shitposting.
I'm not OC'ing tho.
>Also cheapest threadripper like I said a million times is $799.
Haha you fucking moron, like amd isn't working on more cpus.
I'm not buying Ryzen.
Fugg off.
I will come back here after the build and post benches for you fags.