This is where we wait for the latest AMD graphics card which AMD will surely release in a timely manner and will definitely blow all of our minds, no questions asked, 100% guaranteed, no chance it'll fail, just you wait.
Last time: RX Vega makes its first of three appearances TODAY in Budapest at Akvárium Klub. Tickets are sold out: eventbrite.ca/e/rx-gamer-talalkozo-budapesten-tickets-36122124246 If you're in Budapest, go take some videos and leak them here, then leak them to VideoCardz so they can then be leaked here too.
Next stop is PDXLAN in Portland from July 21st to the 23rd.
budapest is tickets thing, NDA confirmed damn. estimate for leaks this evening?
Landon Lopez
>NDA confirmed Sauce? It'd be some bullshit if they made people sign NDAs. I'm not sure it'd fly at PDXLAN.
William Cruz
assumed that because it's not open doors(even though tickets are free)
Hunter Green
The only reason they probably set it up is to keep track of capacity and nothing more. They've also done registrations for past Capsaicin events and those didn't have NDA funny business (unless you're The Media).
Isaac Adams
The event started. Is there someone doing a livestream or liveblog?
Adrian Gomez
is anyone here NOT expecting >no fps counter or fps cap >hidden settings
Hunter Reyes
vegavan makes zero sense then, they'd simply launch it at siggraph and be done with it
Kevin Phillips
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Juan Butler
except they need to do something to try stall people from going nvidia.
Zachary Hall
Case A: It costs $400 and performs like a 1080ti
Case B: It costs $800 and performs like a Titan Xp
Any indication if it's the cut down or full version of Vega?
Colton Watson
I think that they're talking about monitors.
Jaxson Edwards
they increased g-sync cost? it was $200 before
Ayden Cook
>try stall people from going nvidia. anyone who wanted to do so already did.
Anthony Edwards
It could be both, Vega has similar performance for $100 less and also the monitor cost $200 less. Having to drag the monitor into the price/performance argument would be pretty weak though.
Brayden Myers
>similar performance for $100 kind of a big deal
Charles Diaz
Classic AMD. Nothing but lies and bullshit.
Ian Mitchell
AMD won't show framerates until it's ready for release
if they do people are going to go "wow it's too low I'm getting a 1080 Ti"
if they don't people will just complain
Jacob Ross
the monitor price is relevant to me. g-sync tax is absurd
Jordan Howard
b-but it's PREMIUM sync man
Hudson Gutierrez
>As expected, the additional power target of 25% moves the card to 440 watts of directly measured power…ouch!
AYYMD HOUSEFIRES
Jace Diaz
Wanna bet the left one is the one with the 1080?
What a joke of a company.
Leo Taylor
It actually is. Enjoy your flickering black screens with no fix whatsoever.
I am buying RX Vega and nobody can convince me otherwise. Get freaking wrecked, nviggiots.
Benjamin Green
THISTHISTHISTHIS
Jack Turner
Same. Unless the power draw is 300W, that's the only red flag for me.
Connor Martinez
I probably will too but that doesn't mean I'm not going to hold AMD's ass to the fire over this pathetic display. RTG honestly deserves all the criticism they get.
>Incredible. Waited 2 hours in the queue, but gave up. Very unprofessional organization.
>This is what I have been told: >They had a FreeSync and a G-Sync system, one equipped with an RX Vega, the other with a GTX 1080, display was some 100 Hz ASUS. >The "contest" was to tell which one performs better. You have 2 minutes with each system. Finito. >Additionally, they have some ASUS gear to show.
>That's it. Don't know who is / was responsible for this. What a joke.
AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT
AYYMDPOORFAGS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH
Samuel Baker
>Very unprofessional organization. RTG in a nutshell
Ryder Hughes
Lel, get rekt nvidiot.
Dominic Morgan
>10% faster while using 2x more power
AAHAHAHHAHA
Grayson Kelly
>Waited 2 hours in the queue, but gave up didn't they have tickets ? why queue?
so any dx11 game it will be 1070 levels because nodrivers
Tyler Ramirez
>the AMD rep guy was asked and he said it's a GTX 1080 non Ti against the RX VEGA
"1070 levels of performance? Pathetic! How can they compete with a card that's only as good as a 1060!? AMD is finished and bankrupt with their poolet 1050 clone!"
Noah Robinson
KEK.
Connor Reyes
>tfw got 144hz 1440p freesync monitor running on a rx480 Me too senpai
Jaxon Taylor
that's my goal in the coming years. I dont care how strong it is as long as it offers better than rx580 at better price than NVIDIA.
Jose Baker
Reminder to report shitposters.
Ayden Gonzalez
Do you think Rx Vega will be able to do 4K gaming?
Owen Harris
>reliability KEK Is that the new shill trick? First efficiency matters, now reliability does. Ahould i reind you which company had a history of unreliable products, dead chips, drivers burning the chips to death and causing system failure?
>our product is inferior while being more expensive and having proprietary blackbox features >but >but >eehm, it's efficient yes
Jace Lee
Actually a 1070 can do you 4k gaming. Just set the shadows on medium, and tone down post processing a little bit.
Isaiah Wright
So what's the PSU recommendation on this shit?
>Ryzen 5 (+ cooler) >Vega RX
Assuming ~ 100% utilization on both on stock, that'd be around ~300w+~100w for these two alone. Then there's cooler(5w) + hdd/ssd(10w each) + 4-6 usbs (5-10w). This puts us at ~ 470w. If we overclock the CPU/GPU, ~130w + ~400w? So around 600w minimal + ~50-100w for extra threshold as to not put 100% stress on PSU.
700w is what I'm calculating as safe PSU requirement.
Levi Ortiz
>So what's the PSU recommendation on this shit? We don't know.
Henry Williams
I use a heavily overvolted Fury with a 600W PSU and have never had any issues so I'd be surprised if stock Vega wasn't fine.
Ryan Morgan
Mine's more of a theoretical safe zone when system is loaded 100%.
When you game, you don't use 100% cpu or 100% gpu power. When you stress GPU with things like furmark, or cpu with prime95 thats where you see the true limits. Fury has a calculated average power usage of around 275w, but when its unleashed/tested in furmark, it can go upto 400w (using all available gpu resources). Similarly with CPU, TDP (for intel) is average for stock power usage under gaming loads, but with max load, it goes ~50% more.
Lets assume your setup is like this.
Intel 4770K Fury OC 2 HDD/SSD 5 USB 3 fans
4770K TDP is ~84w and that's accurate in gaming on stock. With bit of OC and load, it can go up to ~120w. Fury OC'd is around 275 average and ~300 gaming with OC, and ~400 full load. USBS/HDD/SSD/Fans ~75w
130 + 400 + 75 ~= 605. Thats within acceptable minimum (for 100% load threshold). 50-100w more to offset the 100% PSU usage for more smoother run. Ideally you'd want to go for that sort of safe mark.
But in a minimal standard,
4770K = 100w Fury = 300w USB/HDD/FAN = 75w = 475. That works well when you're not fully stressing the system and only playing games/cpu load in normal conditions. The 600w would then be quite good since its a 125w extra on the load so your PSU isn't 100% all the time.
2 different marks to understand when buying PSU. The theoretical mark and the normal gaming condition mark.
Ian Barnes
>the only systems with hiccups were intel's interesting...
Mason Brooks
if you have a single gpu 500-550w will be fine even with heavy overclocking
I have an r9 290x, an r9 285, and a 5820k, and even with the cpu and the 290x overclocked while running prime95 and two furmark instances (one for both gpu) I barely hit 630w~ with some other minor stuff plugged into the same socket, and while I'd still rather have the 750w for that extra bit of leeway the rig idles around 130w which has some incredibly shit efficiency out of the gpu
Connor Russell
Does Vega compete with its technical power or its price:quality ratio?
I guess i'm asking can it beat 1080ti/TItan XP
Alexander Jenkins
We don't know.
Tyler Anderson
Probably price:quality, I don't think Vega RX is going to compete in power:performance efficiency.
Dylan Adams
Vega is a pile of shit.
Austin Bell
t. leather jacket man
Kevin Gonzalez
so it's safe to assume that 1080p@60fps Vega cards will be in the low end of the spectrum?
Brody Cook
I agree.
t. amd owner
Josiah Moore
These will be much much later.
Nathaniel Nelson
1080p 60fps is already given for these modern >$200 cards.
Tyler Carter
>4 just get 390x or something lol
390? 390x
Charles Wood
yeah, but given that the 480 was already capable of that for $200 or so, it makes me wonder if we'll se the same performance for something like $100~150 in the near future.
Michael Ward
>1080p@60fps is it 2011 again? 580 for 250 is already that.
Aaron Peterson
The next somewhat big leap in performance lies in 7nm dieshrink. Even bigger one is in MCM GPUs but it's like 3 years away at the very least.
Kayden Bennett
now, seeing this trainwreck, I'm more than glad that I pulled the trigger instead of waiting™
I mean - the whole situation kinda reminds me of R9 290 premiere, when everyone was shouting "OMG 6+8 power pin HOUSEFIRES" but it was actually a solid performer for the price now with vega... doesn't look like it'll be this good in any way
Charles Jenkins
The AMD's CPUs department is giving tremendous pride, but the GPUs department is giving tremendous disgust!
Camden King
Is this R300 2.0? Except they actually demo the cards with *some* gaymplay.
Liam Martinez
It's just a Fury 2.0.
Luke Barnes
Doesn't look like it.
Hunter James
If we take into account that it does not compete with 1080 Ti, you're right.
Matthew Thompson
You don't know whether it competes with GP102 variants.
Nathan Miller
There's a Vega FE variant out already. It will be roughly a 1080 competition or an overclocked 1070 competition.
Austin Powell
FE is not indicative of RX Vega performance. In fact, Vega features are simply disabled on FE. Everything, even discard accelerator (it discards less tris than Polaris).
Adam Perry
You can also look at the 780ti to see what happens to cards without driver support.
Anthony Powell
I have 770. I know THE pain. Kill me please.
Jack Davis
We know this, but for gaming purposes, this is not going to be a 20% increase in performance. At best, ~10%. That's still only at 1080 level.
Connor Miller
>We know this, but for gaming purposes, this is not going to be a 20% increase in performance. Wut? Do you know what TBR does? I am not talking faster discarding with primitive shaders. Only TBR. Do you know what it does in what happens when you implement it?
Blake Bennett
I'm starting to panic about the reported performance. Help me anons.
Elijah James
Wait™. And go read some Maxwell whitepapers and listen to Kanter.
Owen Cooper
Wait for benchmarks, wait for drivers, wait for Raja's final desperation attack.
Carter Jones
So... 1080 performance in Vulkan/4k and 1070 performance in dx11/144hz/1440p confirmed? Also why AMD only uses two 12 and 18 months old games in all their benchmarks?
Andrew Taylor
>Also why AMD only uses two 12 and 18 months old games in all their benchmarks? AMD showed benchmarks of RX Vega?
Charles Baker
I'm more worried about that 300+ watt power draw.
Isaiah Myers
It's not 300+watts even on overvolted FE.
Luke Nguyen
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Adam Roberts
No thanks.
Mason Thompson
660 Ti, AKA 970 Jr. How do I into noosing?
Josiah Watson
680 here. brb offing myself.
Michael Stewart
I thought it was 285 watts on the aircooled RX Vega. Well, that's still 100 watts more than your average 1080. Which is kind of stupid. Drivers will be better in a few months. It's going to end up like Ryzen's launch where several months later things have improved quite a bit.
Jaxon King
fuck i love this meme
Aaron Price
Have 2x 1080s and 7700k 5ghz fuck runs cool less than 600w.
I mean 2*1080 equals 1 rx (or half) depending on OC. Having crossfire rx would be a real crossfire on psu. Just imagine 7900x+2 rx You would need dual psus
James Reyes
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Nathan Lewis
Vega will require both driver AND game updates to perform at its best. Just like Ryzen did.
