ITS HAPPENING - RX VEGA = GTX 1080

wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-vega-gtx-1080-battlefield-1-comparison/

>AMD Radeon RX Vega Compared Against a GeForce GTX 1080 in Budapest – Almost Similar Performance in Battlefield 1, Launches in 2 Weeks

Vega is DOA confirmed

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>wccftech
>no FPS counters
>locked FPS due to adaptive-sync
Hey!
A valid benchmark!

Meanwhile in the workloads this card was made for...

>he links the thread in two others dying Vega threads
Bravo!
Have a (You).

You idiots still haven't figured out that RX Vega will be in tiny supply because they're gonna put most of the dies to the pro and instinct lines?

>the 375w fe edition is at the 1070 level but the rx vesion will blow the 1080ti

>losing to the p6000 after all this time
Geez. At least they didn't test against the GP100.

B-but!

You have to Wait™ for Vega gaymen edition, whitey!

>Pro
Yes-yes, Vega SSG will be very nice.
>Instinct
Eh.
ROCm is not mature enough.
Not this shit again.
GP100 is slower at anything FP32 lmao.

GP100 is slower than a P6000 in anything that's not FP16 or FP32

Why the fuck there are so many clueless retards in GPU threads?
The faggot mentioning P100 should gas himself.

I FUCKING TOLD YOU

FP64*

The difference is minimal, and again, it's a $5000 card vs a $1000 one. Oh, and don't forget, this one has double-rate FP16.

FE doesn't have certified drivers, the WX Vega will have it, but will probably cost double the FE

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>lebbit
EVEN BETTER!
What's next, chink rumors?

Not anyone doing modeling/CAD/animation works for a large studio and needs Maya's overpriced certification.

True.
FE is a solid choice for that, since nvidia gassed fucking Titan into a toy.

>it's a bad news so it's fake!

>unironically
>UN-FUCKING-IRONICALLY
>posting wccftrash
(You).
Also
>wojak edit
this is Sup Forums, not Sup Forums.

Did your mother deprive you of attention or something?
You seem pretty frustrated.

Vega is Fury 2.0 with HBMeme+housefire+shitty drivers

>dat delusion

You really think Vega will compared against the Ti?

You're rambling.
You okay?

Maybe?
Why not.
It's not that hard.

Can you answers to this question? Vega will beat the 1080ti?

Who knows?

Probably not?

REPEAT AFTER ME:

1070 level performance
>inb4 buttmad street shitters crying for reports

The fucking Vega Fe can't...

WHAT

THE FUCK

DOES IT

COST

Without a price I do not give one single fuck.

unless vega is $400 its DOA sorry... not trolling was going to be a vega/ryzen system this year but ill ether get a 1080ti or wait for volta and coffee lake

Because Vega FE is an indication of Vega uarch performance?

According to that, it takes a dump on the P6000 at one fifth the cost, the P6000 being the full GP102 die used in Titan XP and faster than a 1080ti?

You need the price to compare two GPUs. If Vega was better than a 1080 Ti in every single solitary benchmark, but cost $1000, I'd rather buy the fucking 1080 Ti. If Vega is as good as a 1080 but costs $400, well now we're fucking talking business.

If they release a $1500 meme water cooled RX Vega AMD's GPU division will be liquidated within the fucking year.

>repeated reports from people at the event that it's 1080 performance

Kill yourself, you pile of raw human fecal matter.

Raja is an Nvidia double agent.

Creo is completely geometry bound, yet we see none of that geometry performance in games.

What in the fuck is AMD doing? How are they doing it?

>What in the fuck is AMD doing? How are they doing it?
They said Vega FE is a prosumer card.
THEY SAID IT.
THEY LAUNCHED IT WITH WORKING STABLE PRO DRIVERS.
WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING?
ITS BETTER THAN DELAYING HARDWARE TWO FUCKING QUARTERS BECAUSE YOUR SOFTWARE ASSHATS CANT MAKE TBR WORK IN GAYMS.

No... I mean if Geometry engines are working at 11 trigs per clock, which they are if Creo is any indication.

Why are they not working in GAMES

Specs don't mean jack shit, show some real world benchmarks.

Because you need to wrap primitive shaders around vertex code on per-engine (or per-game) basis.
IT TAKES FUCKING TIME TO WRITE MOTHERFUCKING SOFTWARE.
WRITING DRIVERS FROM BASICALLY SCRATCH IS HARD.
Creo is no longer a real world benchmark?

>Geometry engines are working at 11 trigs per clock
They are working at 4 per clock as of right now.

>2 years later
>Bigger chip than the 1080
>HBM2
EQUAL PERFORMANCE

It's time for the poo poo to go back to India

Wow Radeon crashes nvidia's years of perfecting geometry performance...
...again.
Literally R300 2.0.
In gayms.
It shits on GP102 in Creo.

Okay, now I'm even more confused


I'll just chalk up Vega as fairy magic and be done with it.

There's still 4 shader engines in Vega.
It uses a new shader stage to discard primitives at ALARMING rate, if Creo perf is of any indication.

>Creo is no longer a real world benchmark?
No, a 15 game-average is what i'd call a reliable real world benchmark.

For a gaymen card.

Ah yeah, the showstopper for a pro card.

Lisa Su is the crossdresser version of Jen Jsun Huang. They are the same person.

...

Then why is she making AMD great again instead of destroying it?
Huang HATES AMD.

Isn't she older than him?

Kek, FE making quick work of Nvidia's top end quadro, and that thing still manages to throttle and it's not even the WX Vega

JHH is older.

kek, this x1000

Where's the leather jacket?

Because Nvidia cant make x86 CPU, they dont have the license. AMD are now good with CPU and APU but suck with GPU

Okay pajeet. Stay away with your retard.

>IT TAKES FUCKING TIME TO WRITE MOTHERFUCKING SOFTWARE.
>WRITING DRIVERS FROM BASICALLY SCRATCH IS HARD.

AMD
>lets launch the card and then work on the drivers

FUCK

As expected of a nigger.

>suck with GPU
?
It dumps full GP102 in geometry.
Something GCN is not supposed to do.

WCCFTech is literally reading tea leaves.

They could have had GTX 1080 performance by dieshrinking a Fury X. Vega is a lot more than that.

The pro drivers are working and stable.
What's the point?
FE is not a gaymen card, they didn't bother to rush out gaymen drivers.
I kinda think original Greenland/GFX9 was a big Polaris and got canned.
Just like R250 was ages ago.

wtf, look at the eyes, they are the same

>wojak
What the shit is that name? You know about krautchan, right?

I need whitepapers for Vega.
I really-really need them.
How the fuck did they manage to beat nVidia in geometry?
That was nvidia's territory since Fermi days.

I don't think I've ever seen anything like this before, like what kind of sorcery would produce a GPU that's as fast if not faster than a GP102 doing work software(aka shitty old half broken applications where barely anything works properly and needs immeasurable driver fuckery to get it right) but slower than a 1080 doing gaming.
In pro stuff Vega is over 20-30% faster per clock than Fiji, but in gaming it's some 5% slower per clock


Give me a real good explanation that's not drivers, when switching the two it's like a completely different GPU is getting used

Please, JUST WAIT ™ FOR NAVI®

Oh boy, Navi will be hilarious.
Is rape with 1600mm^2 of silicon legal in USA?
Because HPC dudes would sell their mothers for so many ALUs.

>shitty old half broken applications where barely anything works properly and needs immeasurable driver fuckery to get it right
That sure sounds a lot like video games.

Anyway, check the 780ti to see what happens to cards when driver support just stops.

It applies to both, but Maya is a really good example, the thing is buggier than a sewer, modern AAA engines are less bad, but still need a bunch of hacks.

So basically RTG can make quality drivers but they have no time?

Maybe game engine devs (and AMD's driver devs) haven't optimized the software-side for the GPU yet? That's also a thing NVIDIA has always been better at, optimizing their driver so shitty games still run well despite their devs being incompetent.

>optimizing their driver so shitty games still run well despite their devs being incompetent.
This doesn't work anymore or as well with DX12/Vulkan.

You kinda need both time, money and people for quality drivers.

I'm guessing RTG lacks all 3, besides maybe money.

RTG are trying their hardest to deliver everything on track.
Fuck, they have to write Pro drivers, Gaym drivers, ROCm stack and fucking Mac drivers at once.

That is true, but games can still hit some kind of bottleneck on one GPU which might not be as bad on a GPU by a different vendor. Geometry shaders come to mind, which often perform very differently on GPUs made by different vendors.

They have a shoestring budget. It's not surprising. AMD can't deliver a solid blow to both Intel and NVidia in the same year. It just won't happen. If Navi can make anime, I mean MCM GPUs real, it'll be a whole different story.

Why do you people still speculate about that shit? Vega release is like in two weeks... Dont you have anything better things to do?

WHITEPAPERS WHEN YOU DAMNED PAJEET

What else should i do?
At least nVidia can compete against AMD without resorting to bribes and FUD.

No.

Fug, I'll just expect a 1080 tier card then. Still leagues better than their current offering.

AMD are still sandbagging

2 weeks before launch?
That's kinda late for sandbags.

1080 is only 25-30% faster than a Fury X.

Do you honestly believe AMD spent 2 years and a node shrink to only get 25% higher performance than their last gen?

then there has to be an explanation for this geometric monster.
but there is none. other than sandbagging.

I could see that happening yes. I hope it'll be better, and that's certainly a possibility. But this "news" made me alter my expectations.

Well yea...
Casually shitting on biggest and baddest Pascal SKU in geometry is something fishy-fishy.
It's better at chewing geometry than biggest and baddest, fully enabled, GP102.
Something's fishy.

How are AMDPOORFAG poojets even able to defend this dog shit? I thought they all would've evacuated Sup Forums at this point out of embarrassment.

I think you just have to face the facts that they designed this thing to kick ass in the workstation and not on the desktop.

You can't kick ass in workstation and NOT kick ass in desktop.

Don't you have a Sup Forums thread to be shitting up?

It took about 3 months for Ryzen to come up to scratch and compete with Intel in gaming benchmarks. I expect the same with Vega.

>no FPS displayed
>FPS limited
>AMD said the system was $300 cheaper
>tested against a (reference) 1080, pretty much the same shit
They don't have a performance monster on their hands, they're clearly trying to play up the value proposition of RX Vega, which is fine. I expect something around 1080 level but cheaper.