If you want help: >Assemble your parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >State the budget for your build (and country if not the USA) >List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate >Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs? How to assemble a PC, select components & more (kind of outdated) wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC
CPUs: No i5 unless discounted >G4560/G4600 - Budget builds (R5 1400 - Cheapest quad core you can get (Ryzen 3 soon) >R5 1500x - Good but up to 1600 if you can >R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage; 1600x if you want higher stock clocks >i7 7700k - Only for 144hz >R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use; Not for just gaming
GPUs: Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser >Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games >GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both >RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz >RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games >GTX 1070 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high >GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p >GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games
RAM: >Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM >Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM
General: ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS! Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor. The Ryzen lineup comes with surprisingly good stock coolers. consider using them over any
feels nice that we can finally let the thread reach page 11 peacefully without people trying to hijack the OP with their own stuff or anything no more fighting for early threads, just a peaceful thread death
Christopher Perez
>upside down and mirrored
what the fuck.
any suggestions for good colorometers for monitor calibration?
Ayden Jones
Maybe AMD stopped paying that moron
Chase Nguyen
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Elijah James
If you are going to get a 750 dollar GPU, spend the extra 200 for a G-sync monitor.
Julian Brooks
pcpartpicker.com/list/L3hPBP Anything I'm doing wrong? Anywhere I could save money? This is my first build, hence why I have peripherals in the list.
Ryan Hughes
Are pic related worth the extra $20 over link below?
placeholder for now, i wanna see how vega plays out before i buy anything
Jaxon White
We already know how it is going to play out. It is not going to be in competition with the 1080ti. If you are deciding between the vega and 1080 sure. But you have the 1080ti so it is clear that whatever AMD releases isn't going to match the 1080ti
Colton Jenkins
is it worth waiting for coffee lake?
Luis Bennett
1080 does seem like the more reasonable now that i think about it, might as well wait.
Nathaniel Fisher
Yes. It has lower clock speeds than Kaby Lake, but that's because it has six cores now rather than four. Combine that with slight improvements in IPC, 50% more threads, and sup to 4.5GHz boost frequency, and you get something that will run circles around Ryzen 5.
Ian Moore
BUT will it burn down my house?
Tyler Clark
Yeah. If you are going for the 1080, it is worth waiting. The 1080ti will remain unchallenged.
Oliver Miller
so if ethereum plummets, will GPU prices go down?
Charles Murphy
Fuck no, that's a meme being spread by AMDrones about a completely different platform Cannon Lake is based on the LGA1151 socket and chipset, which is more mature and stable than anything AMD has to offer on their AM4 socket.
Nathaniel Howard
>cannon Lake is on a different socket. Intels history has them replacing sockes every 2 generations of processors (so every 2 years). Guess what time it is?
Ryan Myers
Have RAM prices gone up recently?
Isaac Murphy
They're testing and validating all of their Cannon Lake CPUs on existing Z270 motherboards. This didn't happen with Haswell or Skylake because there was a socket change. Shill harder.
Carter Torres
coffee lake isn't cannonlake
Logan Murphy
Im building a pc on my own using used parts for one game:
Corsair CX 400 - $30 HP Pro 6300 - $100 gtx 550 ti - $30
pic unrelated
Can user help me run 1 game for a budget thats like about $200
Adam Powell
Sorry for late reply, I asked that before work and I just got home.
I get the picture, faster ram and no bundled psu and case.
replaced the psu with a nice seasonic. and got some 3000mhz ram.
I am skittish about pirating windows 10. I have done it but only for a laptop that no one uses.
Though I guess my main question is, what's a good cheap case? Doesn't have to be small, though usually the smaller the cheaper.
Juan Wood
how is an i5 much worse than an i7 for 144 Hz, considering they both have the same number of physical cores, and achieve pretty similar clock speeds. I bought my i5 6600k about a year ago, because i was upgrading from a 2500k
Joshua Wright
How the fuck do I choose between a case like the Silverstone - RL06WS and the Define C?
Sure, cooling vs sound dampaning, but then again, do you REALLY need those few degrees cooler and does 2-7dba really make a difference when you have a headset on?
Adam Peterson
you can get a modest overclock with the stock wraith cooler and x370/high wattage psu isn't necessary unless you go for sli. w10 can be had for free as long as you don't activate it.
What happens when you install a CPU cooler on too tight?
Brandon Richardson
>Amazon has no idea when an item I ordered will be restocked How can there not be at least one person who could check. Guess I'm gonna have to suck it up and get a different GPU at this point.
Elijah Howard
strip the screws.
William Sullivan
Look at the KL07 also. And the Corsair 400Q And the Pure Base 600.
Joseph Garcia
That's it? Cause I noticed my CPU temperatures were flacutating too much so I resat it and it was still jumping like crazy. So against my better judgement, I tighten it down real hard and the temperatures are now much more stable but I fear the physical damage of tightening it hard. Normally I just tighten till I am required to use force. For this reseat, I gave it one more good turn after reaching the point of using force.
Lincoln Martin
I made a build with 8 core's, 24 GB of ram and a fairly decent graphics card build for 250$ r8 pcpartpicker.com/list/Qzbvyf The only thing I didn't include was a hard drive because I already have one and I'm fairly sure everyone here does as well.
Xavier Hall
I've seen those too, I just have no clue which one, or if there's really any reason to pick one over the other than magical look preference.
Would it look better to pair a white/grey MOBO and stuff with a white case or black case?
Zachary Gray
> (You) I've fiddled with my cpu fan / heat sync out of paranoia and broken cpus that way. I could picture you breaking pins / warping motherboard.
Nathaniel Peterson
But if it works at the moment that means it is fine right? Breaking pins is not a gradual process right? I am not too worried about warping motherboards since that is the reason you have backplates for.
Ryan Nguyen
what happened was there was too much thermal paste and it stuck to the heat sync and I reseated it and accidently bent a shit ton of pins (AMD build)
Gavin Walker
So glad eMachines is dead, fucking faggots made the worst systems
Easton King
I am not too worried about that. I reseated it and it works (for now). What I am worried about is the effects of tightened CPU cooler over a long period of time.
Cooper Adams
>But if it works at the moment that means it is fine right? Breaking pins is not a gradual process right? I am not too worried about warping motherboards since that is the reason you have backplates for.
if its fine now I'd just leave it but know you're stripping screws when you do that
Isaac Rogers
just built my first PC
CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 2GB MB: ASUS B350 Prime RAM: Crucial Ballistix 2400MHz HDD: 1TB Barracuda SSD: Samsung 128GB PSU: Thermalite 650W RGB Modular CPU Heatsink: Coolermaster 120 Lite
Have my CPU overlocked to 3.8GHz @ 1.325V and my RAM overclocked to 2666MHz 18-18-18-18-40.
Very fulfilling to have built it by myself and learn all of the overclocking procedure (not that its hard) and jargon.
Semi-build related, but how difficult is it to replace a PSU fan?
Mine is making a light scratching / squeaking noise which is annoying the shit out of me. There's been no crashes or anything because of it though.
Only thing I've tried doing is opening up the bottom fan grate and trying to get rid of any dust. This didn't help at all so either the bearing is busted / needs lube or the fan is dying, I'd prefer to just replace the fan.
Is it ever easy enough to just unplug the old and plug in the new, or do I need to fiddle with wires / do soldering?
PSU is a Antec 520W HCG, never completely opened it up before.
William Hughes
>wanting to refresh my system >looking at just doing a fresh new build >Went intel this time, so checking out Ryzen benchmarks, seems OK to me >Start looking at GPU benchmarks because I hate Nvidias general faggotrry >see this
WTF has AMD been doing all this time? Is this site lying to me or has AMD been totally unable to surpass the goddamn 7970 in terms of price/performance? I REALLY don't want to buy an Nvidia card, just on principle, but I might have to.
that being said, how IS Ryzens single core performance? Been emulating a lot of PS2 games.
Jason Hall
R3 1200 + GTX 1050 or R5 1400 + 1050ti
Brayden Perez
If your budget is really low just but the dell optiplex 755 for about 50$ on ebay then buy a GTX 750 or something similar and slot it in. No need for PSU upgrade/
Levi Cook
R5 1400 + 1050ti
Michael Edwards
pls respond I'm madly autistic and need help
Luis Jones
>get mobo to post >open axmp and get QVL ram to 3200 >save and reboot >no post, CPU and Ram debug light on >realize im fucking retarded and have the power and reset pins flipped - 5+6 and 7+8 instead of 5-7 6-8 >flip them correctly >pull CMOS and wait
So this front pin shit is isolated right? And the post issue is likely just a xmp?
Henry Lopez
My friend is selling me Asus motherboard, 24gb ddr3 ram, fx processor 4.8 ghz, 500 gb hardrive, 2 radeon 7000 series graphics cards for 300 dollars. Worth it?
Samuel Murphy
Nevermind it's fine
James Carter
>radeon 7000 I wouldn't pay $1 for anything that had those pieces of shit. Literally any and I mean ANY onboard graphics is better.
No, the only thing he is selling that might be even usable is the case, but odds are it's heavy, outdated, has bad airflow, etc. Garbage.
Carter Lewis
Guys I'm building a PC, I'm between Msi Z270 M3 and Gigabyte Z270 K3 which one is better?
Also Im going to use x2 RAM 8gb Corsair 3200 Mhz but not going to OC anything, is there any issue with it?
Noah Baker
I'm retarded and put my r5 1600 heatsink on "backward", can I just flip the fan instead of the entire heatsink?
Also, if you have any reccomendations for which 1080 ti I should get.
Gavin Reed
Either deal with it or get a new PSU. Opening up a PSU is the quickest way to fuck it up and destroy your entire build
Easton Ross
OK, so I think I just answered my own question. either GPUBoss is completely full of shit and biased to hell or AMD somehow hasn't made any advancements in GPU tech. either way I think I'm just gonna stick with AMD.
Lucas Phillips
Haven't really heard much about opening up a PSU destroying your build after putting it back together, just that when you do it just make sure you don't get electrocuted by the capacitors which could still be holding a charge.
It'd suck to discard a perfectly fine PSU because the fan is squeaky / going bad.
Daniel Hughes
Congrats! Seems like a pretty cool system. How much did it cost all together?
Nathaniel Brooks
will ryzen 1600 run the sims 3 good enough?
Michael Reed
>GPUBoss Use Userbenchmark or Passmark
Christopher Turner
yes.You'll have no issues on the CPU. You do need to choose a powerful enough GPU though. According to the spec, the game requires a video card with 128 MB vram... so any modern video card will do. I'd get an RX 550 or 560
Caleb Young
1050 or 1050 ti or like a used gpu like a 290x or 970
Charles Ward
Is it worth getting a 120 or 240 GB SSD only having a motherboard with SATA 3 Gb/s? Won't the SATA speed bottleneck the SSD?
Adrian Gomez
Yes but its random speeds won't be bottlenecked and that is what you'll be doing most of the time if it's a boot or application drive.
Brayden Perry
ik, bought used for free tho. Will upgrade during the holidays most likely.
After rebates and local deals, about $500. Got the GPU for nothing from a friend.
Jaxon Parker
Is it typical for ambient temps in the case to be 10 degrees higher than the room's temperature? Room temp is around 23c and the case sensors read around 33-35c, cpu idles at the ambient temperature.
Isaiah Watson
>Is it typical for ambient temps in the case to be 10 degrees higher than the room's temperature?
Of course, even idle your PC components generate heat while there's nothing in your room doing so unless you have a heater on or it's hot outside.
Hudson Cruz
should I really care about dual channels for my ram? also should I go for 1 8gb ram stick or upgrade to 16 now, would i ever need more than 16 for vidya and basic shit?
Nicholas Cox
If you can afford to get 16, you should probably go for 16.
Nathan Baker
For all 3 sites you might as well throw darts at a dartboard and whatever number you get is your arbitary performance figure.
Xavier Hernandez
16gb is becoming the standard. A lot of games benefit from 16gb vs 8gb already including running dual vs a single stick. Ram speed also comes into play but go for 2x 8gb 2k+mhz right now if you can.
Justin King
I suck at cable management, suggestions?
Thermaltake v21 meme cube case, side panels will have dust filters and not be that visible, window will likely go on top.
Charles Robinson
>pg35vq doesn't hit til christmas >just have a measly TN panel sitting here >cheapest non-shit contemporary alternative is 600$
Michael Sullivan
>2k+mhz >Not 2+Ghz
Isaac Bennett
You could just be less autistic and it'll be fine.
Asher Davis
should have gotten a corsair air 240. smaller, but more cable routing and cooling options.
>t. someone who wasted money on the v21
Sebastian Fisher
Thanks user Its just to play killing floor 2
Nathan Long
Did a bit of study and probably will make when prices lower but what yall think of this?
Was thinking about buying one of these. Any thoughts?
Dylan Nguyen
>corsair air 240 fuck that looks way better
Wyatt Reyes
>Any thoughts? I'm amazed you could find T1000 parts. Skynet is amazing
Kayden Gray
I bought the 1080. I thought I'd be disappointed in myself for spending so much more than I had to but I'm actually looking forward to it.
Chase Gutierrez
lol you could have ordered the 1080ti then pretend like it was stolen mate That's what I did
William Taylor
I basically searched for "big stupid cooling system"
Christopher Myers
Why buy the 1080 now when the Vega is coming out in 2 weeks?
Leo Watson
Someone asked me that exact question 3 weeks ago.
Mason Rivera
When is the best time to buy a GPU? Should I just wait for Volta?
Josiah Nelson
Right now, it looks like your best bet is getting lucky on Cyber Monday.
Luke Carter
Post vega launch. If vega is good, then you can buy vega cheaper and save money with a freesync monitor. If it isn't, the 1080 isn't going to get more expensive and it might even get a price drop.
Kayden Cruz
>pcpartpicker.com/list/f6yfzM Not bad on a budget, if you do wait it out for the meme ram prices to level off (q1 2018?), you may be able to get a 1050TI for the same price
Colton Thompson
>decided to update drivers >suddely getting screen flickers all over the place yeah nvidia surely doesn't gimp their old products. fucking hell AMD hurry the fuck up with RX vega.
and yes i've already used DDU and reinstalled drivers, going to roll back to older drivers in a bit.
