Where do you backup your data? I have about 200GB of photos that I want to make 100% to not lose someday...

Where do you backup your data? I have about 200GB of photos that I want to make 100% to not lose someday. I have them on a external drive but who knows if and how long they last. So I thought about another way. Dropbox seems good but it costs a lot to upgrade for more space. Any other alternatives?

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>Where do you backup your data?
I don't.

>Where do you backup your data?
put files on 3.5 HDD WD Caviar Blue
put Caviar in the wardrobe

What if your house burns down? Then you don't even have any photos of how the house looked before

look at amazon glacier and m-disc.

ClashPlan + Mega.nz

MicroSDXC

How much money are you willing to spend? You could look into buying an enterprise second-hand archival tape system.

what if dropbox cease to exist ?

mirrored raid array

every day, take one disk out and put it in a fire-proof safe

take the disk that was already in the safe and put it in the array

different disk every day, in a cycle

I bought an m-disc blu ray burner. Keep all my old pictures and data in them. Fucking ace. Kind of expensive but I really value that kind of stuff I guess.

>paying for cloud storage

compress photos, split archive into 5GB pieces or whatever their maximum size limit is, make multiple accounts using different IPs

>m-disc
kek
good luck with that in a few years

An extremely silly idea since tape archieves requires some fandongly environment with constant temperature, humidity and light to even survive the first 10 years.

I'm fairly sure getting a high quality single layer blu ray disc (or even better one of these hyped M-DISCS that "promise" to get you longer lifespan) would be a more cost-effective (and effort effective) archieving method for anything below 1TB of data.

Buy a 256GB micro-sd, store it in a fire-proof box. Small and safe

Checked. Put them undergound under a hermetic case then.
>inb4 tornados

This sound like a good idea, i have my backups on dvds and I never touch them, but they use a lot of space.

I live in a house made of concrete, not a shitty log cabin

256gb wtf am i gonna store first on that ?

>backups on dvds
for how long?

Most cloud services are around $10 a month. They're the most secure alternative. Aren't your photos worth it?

The heat would melt the sd card in a fire

S3.

fug

>kek
>good luck with that in a few years
Did you just assume my shelf-life, shitlord?

m-disc can be read by regular drives.

Use multiple media types and have them stored in more than one location. Also don't forget to test your backups regularly.

encrypt your hdd and rent a safe-box at your local bank

DAT72 cassette cartridges
:-F

eventually DDS4

Instead of relying on the media not decaying (all media decay), rely on media resiliency in the form of parity. If a media decays 2%/year, you need a little bit less that 20% parity to recover 100% after 10 years. Personally I back up my data with 400% parity, but that might be overkill for most people.

rely on data* resiliency

Why not LTO if we're going tape media?

I'm a fukin poorman...

DAT/DDS systems are nearly free, LTO streamers are bit pricey.

Why are we going tape media?

You can get an lto4 drive, 800/1600GB tapes, for £50 these days. Granted 4's don't support LTFS so it'll be a bit harder to read and write to them, but it's worth having a look at i think.

I have amazon, google and apple backing up my photos and important documents plus a home server with a raid 1 array and also a USB drive I sync every now and then and keep in a bank safe deposit box.

You can get 4TB drives at half that per GB. That gives you twice the redundancy over tape.

Modern hard drives reliability...
K LOL

Per 1GB tapes are cheaper than anything else on the market and it will stay that way.

No it's not once you factor in the cost of the tape reader/writer. I've done the numbers. Feel free to prove me wrong, but remember to use the real capacity of the tape drives, not the compressed size.

You want an archive which will survive an apocalypse?

1) Install MultiPAR
2) Collate data to backup into a single root directory (I.E. it's all not sparsely distributed all over)
3) In MultiPAR, set that directory as the base directory
4) Set "Block Count" to X
5) Set Media Size to $OPTICALMEDIASIZE
6) Set "Number of Recovery Blocks" to n*X, where n is a number greater than 1 (this is the level of fault tolerance, preferrably it should be high enough to survive some number of discs not surviving)
7) Click Create

When it completes, you then take each $OPTICALMEDIASIZE .PAR file and burn each to their separate $OPTICALMEDIUM. Don't bother backing up the originals. Store optical-burned PAR file-containing discs in cool dry optimum place, duplicate every 5 years and test the files with MultiPAR. You will not be disappointed.

Make physical copies.

>Find Arc of the covenant warehouse

I've heard that SD cards are surprisingly resilient

convert them to ascii and print them out and lock in a safe deposit box

ok
I compared LTO6 versus 3TB WD Green that goes for ~$110.
After just 19 tapes the cost of a used LTO6 drive (~$1000) if offset. After that LTO is winning. Considering 3 copies are mandatory that's around 6 sets, each worth 15TBs. Not a lot, unless only photos and documents are stored.

External HDD, which periodically gets burned onto DVDs for the safe deposit box.

Physical storage in lossless format > anything else

The problem there is there's not enough ways to reliably store sheer obscene amount of data without tapes and if a tape is fucked you're done

Google photos.

It did take months to fully upload over my slav tier connection.

I keep a copy of my keepass database on a USB drive, everything else is easily replaceable

>Where do you backup your data?
A case full of hard drives

The rule of two:

One is none
Two is one

Therefore, all of the naturals are 0.

You are guaranteed to never have it backed up enough.

Where's the buddy-case?

what

nothing i have is worth keeping...

A buddy backup case? Do you really intend to keep all your backups in one box? Or even do no backups of existing backups?

>Do you really intend to keep all your backups in one box?
I have 3 cases of disks

At least two blu-ray single layer discs per archive, with at least one disc made by a different manufacturer to avoid dodgy batches.

Don't forget to index them.

Kek at tape. It is only for realistic for commercial use. Who wants to get sucked into planned obselescence? That always catches some 'tards.

This. Don't fall for the "backup your data" jew. They just want you dish out more shekels.

Why cycle them?

>Or even do no backups of existing backups?
Because he doesnt understand what non-recoverable read errors are.

If you are going to use hdd, consider using bare 2.5" drives as they are more robust than 3.5" and much much easier to store. Be careful about getting a NAS because that can end up with insane data fetishism and mountains of shit you never look at. Blu-ray and hdd is the way to archive. If you really like something buy CD, DVD and bluray don't rely on streaming as it can suddenly disappear forever. You can sell the disc on when you are done with it.

>i think glue lasts forever

>bare 2.5" drives as they are more robust than 3.5"
you're completely retarded. the only thing they have going for them is 15k spindle speeds which is pointless for backup disks

I have a USB stick that has 5 years of 2D boys on it.

Why pay x3 more for 15k rpm?

It's £50 for the drive to use the tapes, the tapes themselves are dirt cheap, at most £10 a pop. Much more suited to long term storage than a hard drive also.

Media and other common data -
1.) NAS with 1-disk fault tolerance.
Critical data (most photos, financial information, etc) -
#1 +
2.) Encrypted external HDD, updated every month or so and stored in a safe.
3.) Encrypted cloud storage, synced weekly via scheduled NAS backup job.

I'm sure that's smalltime compared to a lot of Sup Forums users but I figure as long as I have an extra copy on-site + one copy off-site it is enough to survive most disaster scenarios. I'm not exactly worried about RPO/RTO with photos and such as long as the data still exists somewhere.

Have you ever worked as an archivst? Tape never adds up for home use. Manufacturers assume only SMEs and bigger organizations use it and milk the market for all they can get. Look at how many changes there has been to the hardware and formats in the last few years and look at how many are planned over the next 10 years.

The best thing for the average computer user that ever came from tape is TAR.

That's a really nice picture.

ZFS pool for main storage and Snapraid + mergerFS for archives.

I should probably do this... glacier is cheap af.

This is good but you could add 2 Blu-Ray RW and back up every hour or day. Add 50 Blu-Ray discs for $30 and have more copies than you know what to do with. You can put them in every friends and relatives house for maximum redundancy at 40 cents a disc, not even a whole buck.

>Blu-Ray
take forever to record and can't hold any data

LTO3 tape drive

I backup my most important data on a 32GB usb drive every few weeks in case my main HDD fails and that's pretty much it
Hopefully my usb drive won't stop working the same day as the HDD fails

ZFS zmirror zpool of 3 HDDs for storage

zpool ZIL (log) is a flashdrive

I have a hotspare(automatically replaces a dead drive) HDD setup in the zpool

lastly a dedicated zpool cache (SSD)
root is a seperate flashdrive (embedded nas4free) to preserve it and also seperate it physically

the sperate cache and log prevents my HDDs from losing write cycles

i have a weekly snapshotting system setup that (via a script in nas4free) writes a bluray disk and rsyncs to a remote path to be further compressed and archived

I have unlimited Google Drive space, so I just back all of my stuff up to a personal folder on there. I also have copies on an external hard drive, although I plan on setting up a media server some time in the future.

whats the absolutely cheapest way to backup data?
tape?

OP has 200GB and can do it incrementally. OP doesn't have to be present while recording, it can record overnight or while OP is at school/work/brothel/wherever. Once that is done adding a few discs a month is trivial.

For the love of senpai 300Tb is hdd and a wiiiide bus.

>3.5 HDD
>Drag and drop via file explorer

Why are tape drivers so expensive? Isn't it basically prehistoric technology?

Realize most of it is ephemeral shit and dump it?
The rest fits on something conviently sized and cheap?

How do manufacturers stay in business in a tight niche?

I just bought 40 LTO3 tapes (400GB) at a cost of about $0.005 per gigabyte.
An HP Overland SCSI LTO3 drive cost me $35 three years ago, they tend to be more expensive now.
It's pretty hard to beat that cost.

use ZFS

I memorise all my data, so I don't need to back it up

>storing all your data in one single place
you got some balls

Is that your actual backups or is that some work related backups (in other words did you buy those with your own money)

Did you purchase those drives specifically for this purpose? If so, did you research which drives would be most cost effective for that purpose? And if so, what drives did you go with?

Ive been thinking about this a lot user. Basically, my primary storage is a 2TB RAID-1. I have about 250 GB of data that is most important to me, so I have that installed on 2x 160 GB laptop drives, kept in my closet at the same address.

For offsite backups, Im sort of at a loss where to keep it. I could keep a laptop drive at work I guess. Thought about keeping in my car, but between temperature, vibration, and humidity that doesnt seem like the best idea. But maybe in a well protected case that might work. I could always just give a drive to my parents or bro for them to keep in a closet somewhere, just explain its backed up data and for them to hold onto it in case my apartment gets robbed or catches fire.

But yes, so I figure a mirrored array primary storage, and
on site backup mostly to protect against accidental deletion, and an offsite backup as well for reasons already stated

>backup
what's that?

rsnapshot+cron to an encrypted 4tb traditional hard disk

thankfully, I lost all my files in late high school/early college

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1TB free storage

If it's JPEG pictures you can upload them to Flickr.
Bonus: you can do this very easily from Lightroom.

Unfortunately they don't allow raw or dng.

I backup on the botnet, obviously

What's the cheapest and more reliable hard drive to store a backup?

Always use redundant hdd and blu-rays from a mix of different manufacturers.

Ffs don't fall for the shilling crap that x is better than y because reasons.

I bought the cheapest HDD (WD caviar blue I think), used it for 4-5 years and it deleted my main partition. So I'm planing to buy a more sturdy one, meme says that caviar green is more suitable for data storage.

Put it on an HDD and put that in a bank vault.

Botnet (Google) is pretty good. Plus they sort by file date and only downsize files if they are above 16MP in resolution.

>no amstrad floppy

Punch cards.

>Is that your actual backups or is that some work related backups (in other words did you buy those with your own money)
They're home backups, but no I spend buy them, I took the disks from work.

>And if so, what drives did you go with?
I run HGST and Seagate enterprise class disks in the computers. The backup disks are HGST desktop class.