If you want help: >Assemble your parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >State the budget for your build (and country if not the USA) >List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate >Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs? How to assemble a PC, select components & more (kind of outdated) wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC
CPUs: No i5 unless discounted >G4560/G4600 - Budget builds (R5 1400 - Cheapest quad core you can get (Ryzen 3 soon) >R5 1500x - Good but up to 1600 if you can >R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage; 1600x if you want higher stock clocks >i7 7700k - Only for 144hz >R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use; Not for just gaming
GPUs: Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser >Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games >GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both >RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz >RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games >GTX 1070 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high >GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p >GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games
RAM: >Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM >Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM
General: ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS! Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor. The Ryzen lineup comes with surprisingly good stock coolers. consider using them over any
would i be getting the full individual-drive speed
William Allen
I got my monitor to 75Hz (lowered the res so it would allow me), and damn, the difference is really there. I wonder what a 144Hz or 240Hz one feels like
Brody Cruz
I managed to snap a pin on my USB 3.0 header on my motherboard. I've got a bit of wire used for vaping and pushed it as far into the male end and snipped it to a size that is making contact but I can still pull it out with pliers incase. good idea or not?
USB ports are working perfectly and have been for a while. Just want opinions on my bodge fix
Henry Sanchez
So is the 1050 ti still the best gpu I can get for under $200?
Luis King
you could always steal one
Logan Martinez
if they're just HDDs yes cus they cant even saturate SATA 1 speeds and PCI-e 2.0 x1 is more than enough for two.
pure eyegasm
no, those things are soldered and you just pushing something in there might get shit connection and be unreliable as fuck.
seems so, depending on where you live.
Zachary Walker
tfw paid ~250$ in some meme combo deal for a total of 280 for this
Levi Sanchez
USB 3.0 have been working perfectly since. Full speed too been about a month now
Elijah Morris
Is this accurate for 1080P gaming? I understand DX11 and 12 fucks with things a bit but I am trying to get an overall understanding.
Budget is around $1300 and was planning on slotting in a 1060 when the prices get closer to normal.
I should note that I do live close to a microcenter so the parts listed cost me around $150 less than on pcpartpicker.
Thanks
Brayden Young
this pic is a bit old tho and doesnt have the new 500 cards
Cameron Hernandez
I'm going to be using the build mainly for gaming and some streaming. My budget is hard capped at 1000 dollars. Is there anything I can do to save a little bit more money, or on the flip side; get more performance while staying under 1k?
You'll spend less on a 2x8 16gb combo at 300 or 3200 mhz. You're underspending on the mobo. The golden sweetspot for B350 mobos is between $85 and $115 MSRP. looks good otherwise.
Jose Martinez
me, I'll be getting RX vega too no matter what because I want a freesync monitor
Jaxson Taylor
I initially had a different board, but microcenter has a bundle with the 1600 + X370 for $300 so I figured why not?
Is there a different board you'd recommend for
Nicholas Nguyen
get b350 chipset and not asrock. if you want to OC make sure it has decent chokes and VRM (read hardware review, not buyer reviews). get a ram kit with two sticks instead of two seperate kits with just one stick, and 3000mhz+ (ryzen loves fast ram). get at least 240GB SSD. RX580 > 1060 (depending on price). rest is fine.
because one is no longer manufactured and in low supply.
Owen Carter
1050 is still in production and is garbage for mining so the prices aren't inflated.
Seems like you're getting chinked on the 950 price there. It's out of production but it's also pretty shit for mining. I'm assuming they're just putting a high price to see if some sucker will take it.
Justin Rogers
The second one is old as shit (2-3 years old IIRC) and stock is low. when supply can't meet demand, prices go up. Miners buying things in bulk drove up prices. The 1050 is a better card. make no doubt about it. Give it a month and a half or so and the GPU market should stabilize.
Lucas Parker
Should I buy an HGST 3tb refurb for muh gaymes? Some reviews say they're loud.
Caleb Morris
Ah, if you're getting a deal on it, then do it.
For my personal build, I'm grabbing an MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic.
Daniel Hughes
im sure most noise is due to case vibrations (i know my seagate does this sometimes since when i push shit tight it stops).
Thomas Lopez
Just checked ebay sold listing prices for the 950 and they're usually 70-90 USD used and around 100-120 USD new. So that's a complete ripoff price.
Aiden Miller
I just want a nice low-profile one for for my linux home server but with a nice amount of cuda cores for other work.
Is the first one pretty good for that? For a system running basically 24/7.
a low profile what? gpu? just get a htpc case with tilted gpu slot
you should look at reviews where they test cuda shit on different cards.
Xavier Campbell
Guys I can't anymore, I have been waiting for 1060s since early June, I am thinking of getting a 1050ti and end it all.
Jayden Reed
just buy a used RX x80
Sebastian Young
I already have a build up and running using integrated. "Buy a new computer" isn't gonna help just because of a gpu.
I'll look at more cuda-based reviews
Brayden Thompson
>used Id like to keep my GPU for more than 1 year thanks.
Ayden Johnson
i bought a used gtx470 housefire many years ago that i still use
Brandon Watson
I had one of those. Thing idled at the temperature of Satan's butthole
Angel Allen
pcpartpicker.com/list/HmzkBP (Adding vega / gtx 1060 / rx580 later, sound card and 2×8gb 3000mhz ram later) Is this a good mid range build? Is there anything wrong with it?
Landon Myers
sure does
Liam Ross
>soundcard why? >replacing ram later fucking why? >spending more than $50 on gpu just to replace it in a month whatthefuckingshit why?
Luke Foster
spend more on the power supply. You want 80+ Bronze minimum, with all black cables, and either semi-modular or fully modular.
Asher Ramirez
>buying anything but gold rated in current year nah
wait until you can buy the shit you want from the start, buying some stupid shit just to replace it in a short while is fucking retarded and wasting money.
Ayden Nelson
Thank you!
Also, AMD cards are very expensive. Some Rx 580's go for 400+
Elijah Turner
yeah, the idiot miners fucked with AMD gpu prices
Dominic Clark
My first build is stressing me the fuck out. My psu only came with two PCI-E 6+2 adapters and my gtx 1070 takes an 8 and a 6. Would it be simple enough to use an 6+2 and a 6 for powering the graphics card? Or do I need the 8 and 6 PCI-e. Really don't wanna fuck up here lads. Pic related
Elijah Scott
prices should go down sooner or later but if you dont want to wait the 1060 6gb is fine. you should get ram without heatsinks that sticks up (like corsair LPX). and if you want to OC you should consider an aftermarket cooler.
amd are making mining cards soon so hopefully wont happen again
what fucking PSU do you have nigga
Luis Johnson
the mining craze is already dying, and even if it doesn't, no one is going to sell their gpus to buy the mining version
Blake Diaz
like it died the years before?
nah but they might consider buying them instead of the gamer versions if amd makes it worth it the next time they make a mining rig
Colton Butler
What is the problem with a heatsink that sticks up?
Zachary Cook
550w seasonic G series it's a little old but the wattage should be sufficient. I've seen previous builds using the same parts
Brandon Collins
have i overlooked or poorly/overly specced anything? a little unsure if the monitor might be too big. my second edition to pcbg.
the plan is to run fairly general use ubuntu, watch a few 1080 flicks, and play some dota.
budget is somewhat flexible, all my past computers have been laptops so i want to stretch a little bit and get a nicer, higher-end box that's a little more modular and semi-permanent
>I need it for higher quality sound >"A D D" Is it possible to use two different gpus at the same time (i want to connect it to secondary monitor) if not I'm getting the gt 210 Any psu suggestions? Old laptop died and i am not patient
Mason Gutierrez
Bruh, you're going to waste money on parts now to just replace them in a month or two, yet you chose the bare minimum anyone should consider for a PSU? What are you doing?
Seasonic's website states that PSU comes with two 6+2 pin PCI-E cables. I don't understand your issue..? Plug on full 6+2 in and plug the other 6 in and let the +2 hang off next to it.
Anthony Cruz
it's a useless meme only for looks and it gets in the way of the biggest cpu coolers. you dont HAVE to change ram it's just recommended since there's no price difference and you probably wont be buying those coolers anyway.
but that unit has two 6+2 PCI-E cables why are you talking about adapters?
William Mitchell
Should I get RX560 or 1050ti if I'm getting a 1080p FreeSync monitor?
Liam Jenkins
Banter topic but: what angle is "safe" for a hard drive to be positioned during operation?
"Flat"(Disk is facing flat up) or "Vertical"(Disk is "on its side")?
Luis Ward
>running freesync on nvidia graphics is this bait?
| or _
Nathaniel Green
Looks damn fine to me. I might suggest slightly faster RAM. I got 2x8gb TEAM DDR4 3000MHz RAM working at 3066 pretty easily on my ASUS Strix X370 board and it was around $115 I think. You could also go for 3200MHz RAM if you wanted to but I was fine with 3000.
That monitor is bretty gud for productivity tasks, I have several at work and the colors are quite good after some tweaking. Haven't tried games on it obviously.
Ayden Carter
> | & _ aka both*
Luis Carter
Nvidia doesn't work with Freesync even though they could with just some driver work but they want to force you to buy G-Sync which requires special hardware in the monitor.
Eli Carter
I know it doesn't work, I'm wondering if getting a slightly worse card is worth it for having FreeSync functionality or if I should just get the stronger card and not have any frame sync at all. I'd save about fifty bucks if I got the RX560 on top of that.
Ian Morgan
go with the 8GB version GPU also wait until prices come down before you buy. those cards should be going for under $300 normally.
ryzen likes fast ram so get 3000mhz+
i'd drop the wifi and get a mobo with it integrated instead.
recommend 144hz monitor for maximum gaemin
Gavin Parker
It's a temporary card in either case, right? If so just get the cheaper RX560.
Cooper Perry
get a 570
Jeremiah Hill
>GPU I preordered since early june is on its way HOLY FUCK Sup Forums A MIRACLE HAS HAPPENED
Nathan Carter
>paying that much for temporary card fucking stop this retarded shit
Jeremiah Lee
Is this a dream or reality
Jaxson Long
If you're going to stay at 1080p, it'd be cheaper to get any mid-range AMD card and utilize FreeSync, as nVidia refuses to support it. FreeSync monitors that are equivalent spec to G-Sync monitors are in a range of like $100-250 cheaper. So you could always get a nicer IPS and/or higher Hz monitor for cheaper, while having all the benefits of FreeSync. It's pretty win-win.
Though if you're considering a 560 I really don't think you're in the market for a $350+ IPS/144Hz monitor.
Jacob Green
>Order PC parts >Everything has arrived except for the mobo and PSU
Liam Rodriguez
Fuck off and spend your own money how you want.
Elijah Allen
I checked some other GPUs and some of them seem to restock on 31st,(Atleast for amazon.co.uk) guys save your money until then
Gabriel Hall
Plz respond
Nathan White
>wasting money ok retard
>not telling them to ship everything at the same time
Jace Hall
I hope it's not a box full of spiders, user.
Adam Collins
>having a working computer that can do what you want vs having a bunch of components sitting around doing nothing >wasting money
Confirmed retard. These GPUs can either serve as a back-up in the future or can be sold later to recoup costs. If you actually get use out of it then it's certainly not wasted like you falsely claim.
Connor Johnson
I am way too excited, finally I can remove the Radeon 6450 from my new PC
Jeremiah Clark
you could spend that money right now on something better
Sebastian Cooper
See Alternatively, a Corsair RMx series, Seasonic S12G or G series or Cooler Master V series.
Julian Cruz
Is the EVGA GQ 650W Hybrid Modular 80+ good?
Jaxson Powell
What would be better that wouldn't also just be a stop-gap solution? All the better new cards are overpriced for non-mining use.
David Lopez
To my knowledge the G2 and G3 series are of higher quality. You could check out Jonny Guru to see if he's reviewed the specific PSU series.
Tyler Davis
G2 and G3 are slash g approved user san
Nathan Hernandez
anything cheaper. you should at least get proper ram from the beginning when you're spending that much money anyway, and RAM isnt that overpriced like GPUs.
Jeremiah Lopez
How much to top of the line gpus like the 1080 ti cost around black friday/cyber monday?
Luke Adams
Anything weaker than a RX560/1050 isn't even capable of playing games at an acceptable level. No one even said anything about sacrificing RAM speeds for a GPU. And DDR4 prices are actually inflated right now due to the mobile phone market.
Wyatt Hill
>No one even said anything about sacrificing RAM speeds for a GPU. neither did i, i said since they are not massively overpriced like GPUs, there's no fucking reason to buy shit RAM now just to replace later.
Connor Flores
Why even bring it up then?
Hunter James
are you fucking retarded? learn to read.
Nathan Williams
What's the best way to persuade parents that they're son shouldn't get bought an overpriced prebuilt pc over the custom one I am willing to build for them?
Juan Robinson
You've just made poor arguments from the beginning. No one said anything about RAM until you mentioned it effectively as a red herring to the original statement about temporary GPU purchases. The idea of purchasing an entry-level GPU as a stop-gap measure until you are able to purchase a more reasonably priced, mid-tier GPU is a sound decision in many cases given the current GPU market. Stop pretending like you're making a good case for the contrary because so far you're just floundering.
Learn to make a coherent argument instead of just calling people retarded and pretending like you've won.
Oliver Ortiz
>price >upgradability >longevity >quality
go look at the origina post again you blind tard, he had a smaller slower kit of ram in the build list and linked another kit saying he was gonna replace it later
Sebastian Flores
You can't because i7 7700k 600$ custom built pc that was destroyed by a 13 years old < 1000$ pre built i3
Xavier Sullivan
Your original reply to me was about GPUs, I'm not talking about the original poster's RAM question. At no point did I even mention RAM and my argument never included it--I've been talking about GPUs this entire time. You're just deflecting against my original point about GPUs by saying the OP should get better RAM.
The original post from you that I replied to was which is just about temporary cards. That was the entire focus of my argument. You haven't made a good case this entire time because you seemingly can't. You made a stupid statement as a knee-jerk reaction and can't back it up with an argument.
Michael Baker
Convince them of your own competence first of all. They need to know you're not going to fuck anything up while assembling the computer. Show them the parts themselves on PCPartPicker, show them explicitly they all are compatible together. Show them a brief video of how to assemble a PC.
Don't be mean to them. Calmly convince them you know what you're doing, and that everything will be better if they get the custom PC instead of the prebuilt.
