Got a semi-successful thread about this piece of software going yesterday. >What is Retroshare A distributed, privacy oriented program with filesharing, social networking, chat, email, message board and twitter-like functionality on board. It has been around since 2006
>Is it a honeypot? No. Its completely decentralized. You only communicate with people that you manually add. Its WoT based, no danger of certificate authorities going rogue. It is not however as anal about anonymity as TOR
>Do VPNs/TOR work with it? Yes, both. You can us an already running Tor instance on your machine to route all RS traffic through it.
Since Sup Forums has such an awesome spam filter (not!) you cannot post your IDs here, sadly. But pasting them on pastebin works just fine. Here is mine: pastebin.com/2XyR4Ei6
You have dedicated ID-exchange chatrooms so you can grow your network.
>Security? Everything is strongly encrypted. No one is going to hack your megabits. You can sign the IDs of others or give them a bad rating, depending on what they do. This also strongly limits anything illigal like CP as those IDs will be downvoted a lot. Also you can create as many IDs for your node as you want.
I have currently about 80k files that I share on RS, mostly ebooks. Feel free to ask about anything.
I did not know that limewire had distributed message boards
Carter Wright
bump
Justin Jenkins
NICE TRY NSA
Lucas Parker
What do I need distributed message boards for? Basically what I'm asking is, why would I use this? Sell me on it if you don't mind. I'm curious.
Brody Bell
imagine someone, a mod, the jews or the ADL forces down a thead from Sup Forums (as has happened often in the past). Now you are screwed because the Sup Forums server was the only place that had that data. With distributed systems, every participant has the data.
NSA does not use open source software that has been developed for 11 years. By their own words "Tor sucks".
Evan Lee
sell me on it OP
Adrian Foster
Don't convince them OP, we don't need any faggots in our network.
Landon Campbell
File sharing was made irrelevant by torrenting, though.
Cameron Kelly
>hey guys join my filesharing club Lol.
Jackson Scott
yeah, this is why I mentioned in the fucking first post that its not only about filesharing. Of course BT is superior, but BT does not offer distributed social networking at all.
Ryan Lopez
>social networking Literally why.
Ryan Allen
>asking that question on a social website
Lincoln Phillips
>entire thread is people asking why they'd ever use OP's shitty service and him giving no reasons
Cool fucking thread man.
Jaxon Anderson
>11 year old >my club >open source >my club
>you >smrt
because Twitter is literally SJW-central and even Sup Forums is not unaffected. Also because its cool.
With social networking I mean mostly the distributed message board function.
everything is in my original post you caveman. Apparently some kiddies here are quite reading-impaired.
Fucking millenial scum, you want me to feed it to you in 140 character chunks?
Ryder Rivera
>gets called on his shit and starts flinging insults. dude just stop.
Ayden Howard
no one called me out. They are just being retards as usual. Its called the dunning-kruger effect.
I mean if you are seriously not able to read the freaking text, or to logically deduce that a freee and open source software that has been developed for 11 years is most probably not some NSA honeypot, then I cant help you either
Jose Anderson
He is literally spoon-feeding all of you fucking retards, if you are not interested then don't visit this thread.
Grayson Allen
why not freenet or gnunet?
Aiden Walker
because those are slow as fuck. I mean, less than 56k slow. And they focus completely on anonymity. Those things are nice if you are a dissident in China but for your average user here looking to shitpost and fileswap this is complete overkill
Jayden Collins
>And they focus completely on anonymity. Which is a good thing. Fuck off with your botnet.
>Those things are nice if you are a dissident in China Or in the UK, Canada, Australia, etc...
Jose Morales
>Files are represented by their SHA-1 hash value Lmao
Dylan Harris
This is any different from Soulseek how?
Asher Hughes
>Soulseek nonfree
Jason Sanders
yeah no. what you want is reasonable privacy in those countries, nothing more. No one gets shot here or there because they posted some rare pepes.
And of course your statement about botnet shows a blatant lack of understanding of both, botnets and Retroshare.
this is funny because?
Soulseek is filesharing only (read the fucking text guys!) Retroshare is not only filesharing
and of course RS is free and open source, no danger of backdoors or honeypots.
Joshua Sanders
>this is funny because? Because this shows how shit it is? Because it shows that it is made by clueless fucks?
>No one gets shot here or there because they posted some rare pepes. They do go to jail however for visiting gelbooru or for insulting someone over tweeter.
>sha1 for file identification >shit I am not quite following you there.
looks interesting, I will look at it. Thanks.
Michael Smith
It is in this specific case.
Carter Thomas
you the sha1 guy or the zeronet guy?
Isaac Evans
Sha1
Nicholas Bailey
alright, now give me a reasonable explanation, using complete english sentences and well reasoned arguments why sha1 is unsuitable for file identification
Luke Gutierrez
Sha1 was already proven to be broken and you can make two files with the same sha1 string. Obviously that will get even easier as CPUs / GPUs improve. So sha1 should just die and not be trusted.
Andrew Jackson
Does it use it in order to check the integrity of the file afterwards? My guess is that this is the case but just making sure.
Nathaniel Jenkins
just as I suspected: a victim of FUD.
sha1 was broken using a dedicated supercomputer and using very specific kinds of files where large parts of the file is invisible (pdfs for example).
Now if you were using sha1 to assure the integrity of such files in a security sensitive context, then yes you should not use sha1 (but then again you should not have used it since 2005 when it became known that it has huge weaknesses).
However here it is just used to identify a file, and dont worry the NSA has better uses for their supercomputer than to create a hash collision for that porn movie you are about to download from Retroshare.
this. And to make sure that it is fileA and not fileB.
In this context only the accidental hash collision is important, and for sha1 this rate is utterly tiny. You could hash random files for the next billions of years without finding a single one
Nathan Edwards
>sha1 was broken using a dedicated supercomputer An array of gpus that you can rent for cheap.
>and using very specific kinds of files where large parts of the file is invisible (pdfs for example). Can apply to most image formats, binaries, archives, etc.
>Now if you were using sha1 to assure the integrity of such files >this So, it seems that it does use sha1 to assure the integrity of the files, interesting.
>but then again you should not have used it since 2005 when it became known that it has huge weaknesses 2009
>However here it is just used to identify a file That the NSA might have modified.
>for that porn movie you are about to download from Retroshare So, it is useless for anything serious and you are better off using bittorrent.
>In this context only the accidental hash collision is important You assume that the network is trustworthy. Here is an attack scenario: you are trying to download a 10GB file and one of your peers sends incorrect data, either intentionally or by mistake. You will have to download the whole file again. Instead in a proper protocol one would use merkle trees or some other form of hashing in order to make sure of the integrity of each part of the file.
Jacob Foster
here, I'm not , however I still see 0 reason to use decentralized encrypted network that uses algo with a known hole in it. You can't use it in a case you're a serious dissident or whatever and just fucking around seems pointless anyway.
Grayson Edwards
>An array of gpus that you can rent for cheap. No not at all for cheap and it took them a long time.
>Can apply to most image formats, binaries, archives, etc. Not compressed archives or binaries
>So, it is useless for anything serious and you are better off using bittorrent. If you were actually competent and not a semen addicted trollfaggot, you would know that BT also uses sha1.
>You assume that the network is trustworthy. Here is an attack scenario: you are trying to download a 10GB file and one of your peers sends incorrect data, either intentionally or by mistake. You will have to download the whole file again. Instead in a proper protocol one would use merkle trees or some other form of hashing in order to make sure of the integrity of each part of the file. Again your lack of clue and refusal to do so makes me want to strangle your over the internet: Read retroshare.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/File_transfer_protocol
serisously, are you 13?
you too, see above: in this context this is not a hole. Particularly since you are communicating with nodes that you first have to manually add, contrary to BT where you are forced to take data from any nodes with the chunks you want.
You can also upvote or downvote nodes based on their behaviour (this is done using PKC signatures). You too: read the fucking links already. this is supposed to be a technology forum, not the special ed school.
Zachary Cook
So this is like syncthing, but much bigger with social networking and all that?
Jeremiah Kelly
>No not at all for cheap For very cheap.
>and it took them a long time A year, and it won't get slower.
>Not compressed archives or binaries Many places to hide shit in them.
>If you were actually competent and not a semen addicted trollfaggot, you would know that BT also uses sha1. The magnet links in bt contain the hash of the torrent file. The torrent file contains the individual hashes of each chunk.
As a normal person, I have no reason to use anything decentralized or encrypted at this scope. And if I was a dissident I wouldn't use a network relying on ages old crypto. So what IS the point?
Cooper Wilson
>Particularly since you are communicating with nodes that you first have to manually add What is the point? Seems bad
Adam Gray
>syncthing Idk what that is, is it something like zeronet?
yeah it has social networking which is also completely distributed and serverless.
Just installed it, it looks really polished and seems to have tons of features, especially since its only 2 years old. awesome.
>For very cheap >A year, and it won't get slower. you just dont quit do you, does it not hurt to have your foot this deep in your mouth? 1 year of fulltime running a massive GPU cluster cannot be cheap even if you only have to pay the electricity bill.
>Many places to hide shit in them. I take: what is entropy for 40 shannon-bucks
>The magnet links in bt contain the hash of the torrent file. The torrent file contains the individual hashes of each chunk. and the algorithm for those chunks is again the sha1 algorithm. Check and mate!
>Done so, it seems to agree with me. clearly not. At least pretend.
1. beause its cool? 2. because its nice to know that no one can take down your stuff no matter how hard they try 3. its a nice integrated solution, no need for 10 different packages.
no its a security feature
Gabriel Wood
>join my CP sharing network how about you fuck off
Kevin Jackson
No, and already answered:
Adrian Ross
>1 year of fulltime running a massive GPU cluster cannot be cheap even if you only have to pay the electricity bill. You can rent it for cheap.
>I take: what is entropy Something irrelevant to the discussion.
>and the algorithm for those chunks is again the sha1 algorithm. Yes, did I claim otherwise? My problem from the start was that this crapware used sha1 to hash the whole file.
>clearly not. Did you even bother to read it? Fucking troll.
>no its a security feature It protects you from what exactly?
Gabriel Brown
>all this FUD and normalfaggotry in this thread Hello NSA
Xavier Sanchez
This OP is a shill
Ryan Watson
No, the shills are the ones who are advocating against an open-source project offering an encrypted, decentralized network.
In other words: fuck you shill.
Lincoln Robinson
>The shills are the ones who argue against a badly designed honeypot project lol k, nice try nsa
Blake Gutierrez
>everything that provides privacy is a honeypot Literally nsa tactics.
Gabriel Roberts
>You can rent it for cheap. Look up the prices on AWS then
>Something irrelevant to the discussion. What is theoretical computer science?
>My problem from the start was that this crapware used sha1 to hash the whole file. No, dont you wiggle out of this: you claimed that it was insecure because sha1 has been broken.
>It protects you from what exactly? from what you described in your other posts: malicious files and chunks of files being sent your way.
>11 year old software >developed with privacy in mind >FOSS >used by thousands yeah but Im a shill and RS is a NSA honeypot.
seriously, the average IQ on this board could freeze Nitrogen...
this.
fuck off and die
Jackson Thomas
>putting words in my mouth nice try
>privacy >he didn't read A literal honeypot. Nice try agent.
I'm not putting words into your mouth, you saying this is a honeypot without providing an alternative, you are literally one of those faggots that yell 'honeypot' under every privacy oriented software. Name a better alternative if that's not the case.
Aaron Clark
If someone had a Retroshare with alot of Hentai, I'd be all game.
Not interested in books and shit though.
Lucas Nelson
>What is theoretical computer science? The field of my degree. What are you trying to meme?
>you claimed that it was insecure because sha1 has been broken Never did so.
>malicious files and chunks of files being sent your way. Because they did not bother to implement a sane system to check for file integrity? That would be much better than blindly trusting third parties.
>he ignored the part where I rekted him So, do you admit that you were wrong when you claimed that this protocol does not hash the whole files with sha1 directly, huh?
Liam Watson
FUD
Noah Thomas
>you saying this is a honeypot without providing an alternative Nobody asked me.
>you are literally one of those faggots that yell 'honeypot' under every privacy oriented software Yeah, simply because I criticise a single shitty attempt at it, right?
>Name a better alternative Freenet, GNUNet, IPFS, BT (the last 2 can be used over tor and/or i2p)
Yeah, yell FUD without any argument. This ain't gonna work nsa.
Gabriel Bennett
It doesn't work. I installed it on Gentoo and after creating a user, I try to log in and it works, but it comes up with the Retroshare splash screen. Then that disappears and no GUI appears. It shows up fine on the console (doesn't report any error), but I can't use it if I can't see it. Stops here: bdNode::setNodeDhtMode(768), origFlags: 0 bdNode::setNodeDhtMode() newFlags: 768 p3BitDht::setRelayMode(17) bdNode::setNodeDhtMode(4096), origFlags: 768 bdSpace::clean_node_flags(524288) bdNode::setNodeDhtMode() newFlags: 4864 Found plugin /usr/lib/retroshare/extensions6/libVOIP.so Loading plugin... Loading plugin /usr/lib/retroshare/extensions6/libVOIP.so -> hashing. -> hash = 7a0c5790fd868079fa7c8e0aafa0e9f5fd666937 Local changes in trust database. Writing to disk... Done. and then says nothing else.
Landon Thomas
so this is how people still get busted for "P2P File sharing"
Brody Long
hi iyra
Caleb Ramirez
honeypots only work in a client-server model, more precisely in a one to many configuration, never in a pure p2p topology with manually approved peers and strong cryptography.
They do not use it AS HONEYPOT you aids-ridden catamite!
its like im trying to teach apes here!
just ignore him, he is either clinically retarded or another troll
>The field of my degree. What are you trying to meme? Then you must be Pajeet from Streetshit-U or another diploma mill if you do not understand the relationship between free entropy and embeddable or changeable information in a piece of data
>Never did so. Here: >Sha1 was already proven to be broken and you can make two files with the same sha1 string. Obviously that will get even easier as CPUs / GPUs improve. So sha1 should just die and not be trusted.
>Because they did not bother to implement a sane system to check for file integrity? That would be much better than blindly trusting third parties. What the hell else do you want but a combined SHA1-CRC check?
this
>Freenet, GNUNet, IPFS, BT (the last 2 can be used over tor and/or i2p) Again your retardednes shows: First two yes, latter two provide zero privacy at all, they are purely for distributing files as fast as possible.
>gentoo I have already a suspicion where your problem could lie. Google for a gentoo specific manual, im on Mint.
No this is how you avoid just that, see above about the "hand aproved peers" part for the reason why.
Ryder Evans
>proves his argument is incorrect >starts calling you names man Sup Forums is spilling out hard today somthing happend there today?
Gavin Cooper
>Then you must be Pajeet from Streetshit-U or another diploma mill if you do not understand the relationship between free entropy and embeddable or changeable information in a piece of data The irony.
>Here: >>Sha1 was already proven to be broken and you can make two files with the same sha1 string. Obviously that will get even easier as CPUs / GPUs improve. So sha1 should just die and not be trusted. Not me. You must be a real shitter in order to confuse us two.
>What the hell else do you want but a combined SHA1-CRC check? Don't make me repeat myself please. I talked about it a few posts above.
>this Nice circle-jerk
>latter two provide zero privacy at all Which is why I mentioned >(the last 2 can be used over tor and/or i2p)
Brandon Cooper
I was mildly interested until I saw OP acting like a dumb faggot ITT.
Nathaniel Bell
Fuck off shill
Lucas Green
>Not me. You must be a real shitter in order to confuse us two. right, nice try. Coincidentally in this small thread there are two people who have no idea about sha1. makes perfect sense...
>Which is why I mentioned >(the last 2 can be used over tor and/or i2p) You might as well have mentioned the WWW because it can be used over tor too. head->deak
well you should see the kinds of subhumans im forced to deal with in this thread.
I mean I start talking about distributed message boards and they end up misunderstanding what the flaws of sha1 mean for BT. And some cuck seriously argueing that 1 year is "fast" and 1 year of electricity for a gpu cluster is "cheap" And not even understanding a damn thing about entropy.
Bentley Richardson
>there are two people who have no idea about sha1 Only one person in this thread has no idea about sha1: you Quite ironic, considering that you admitted that we were two different people here >You might as well have mentioned the WWW because it can be used over tor too. Not a peer to peer file sharing service.
>they end up misunderstanding what the flaws of sha1 mean for BT What?
>And not even understanding a damn thing about entropy. Entropy is irrelevant to everything that was posted in this thread, please stop posting random words that you have no idea what they mean.
You still haven't replied to any of my actual arguments on why this protocol sucks, instead you insist on trolling instead.
Lucas Lewis
I actually got interested due to this shilling against it. Will install it out of spite.
Jonathan Torres
Might be worth it to just shift from Sup Forums to retroshare to avoid the retards.
Colton Williams
So is it just filled to the brim with polfags like you? If so, I'll take a pass.
Evan Bennett
>muh Sup Forums boogeyman It's ok, we don't want you leftkikes anyways.
Dominic Hill
>This also strongly limits anything illigal like CP as those IDs will be downvoted a lot. >tfw loli is also illegal >tfw loli will also be downvoted to hell nice censorship
Andrew Bailey
Try again. I just don't like Zionists who support crypto-Jews like Sup Forumsfags.
Elijah Morales
Enjoy your shitty protocol and enjoy having to download the same file 100 times because the hash does not match.
Matthew Nelson
>enjoy having to download the same file 100 times because the hash does not match yeah just like in bittorrent, eh nsa
Joshua Diaz
>I have no idea how bittorrent works --you
Michael Fisher
im not from pol you cocksucking kikeloving mexican cuck!
[ ] I have understood how hashing works [x] I am still a clueless retard who thinks ricing out his case makes him a computer scientist
Gabriel Jenkins
It works using the very thing you criticize. It seems you've got entangled in your own web of shilling.
Cameron Sanders
>I have no idea how hashing works so I will project my inability to understand on people that dislike my favourite piece of software --you
You either have no idea how bittorrent works or you have no idea how this protocol works.
Alexander Martin
>being so anally devastated because you can't have your pedo drawings in a certain network
Camden Howard
You're one to call someone retarded when you fail basic English and reading comprehension even when it's clearly spelled out for you you fucking imbecile.
I may have misunderstood cryptography, but you can't even keep up with a conversation, congratulations.
Logan Fisher
>phoneposter
Benjamin Bell
This is pretty neat. Is there anything worth downloading from there?
Luke Lewis
you claimed that you will have to redownload the whole file because of one fautlty block. This claim is evidently false as anyone who has read the page about the RS file transfer protocol will understand (its linked in one of my posts). So instead of getting worked up, follow the link and read the page.
Also phoneposter: HAHA
not that much to be honest. I have my 80k books, I saw others who had movies, pictures, software and mangas but if you want only filesharing, bittorrent is probably best for you.
Im "shilling" it because of the distributed social features. And also because I thought that Sup Forums would like to discover new and interesting software with me (well just look that the thread to see how wrong I was), after all I only started using it yesterday.
Levi Perry
...no, that was the other guy you idiot. Do I really need to spoonfeed you everything so you can understand the basic concept of a conversation?
Jose Gomez
I seriously dont give a fuck which one of the trolls you are, I respond to whatever post I quoted.
Andrew Fisher
>Sup Forums server was the only place that had that data. you DO know there are archives right?
Ethan Lopez
This looks awesome and I have no idea how I haven't seen it before. I'm a huge nerd for decentralized things.
