What do we do about the prevalence of adblocking software ruining the revenue of legitimate sites...

What do we do about the prevalence of adblocking software ruining the revenue of legitimate sites? I can't believe it's even legal to effectively steal content you haven't paid your dues for by viewing the advertisements that go along with it, I don't doubt there will be legislation in place in the future preventing it.

t. butthurt his blog isn't generating money

deal with it

agreed. hopefully there will be punitive actions against people who use adblocking software in the future.

i wonder who could be behind this post

MOOOOOOOODS!!!!!

If the fucking ads werent trash popping all over my screen telling me how to enlargen my dick then maybe I'd consider not blocking them. Also:
>being pro-restriction
>in any computer related issue
out out out jew

Good goy!

>my content can only be paid for by ads lmao

If you're not providing a real service you shouldn't be paid lmao

meme sites like youtube etc need to die

Having a nice time.
Wish you were here.

Like everything else on the internet, adblock was ruined once it was adopted widely by normies

who's this cute girl

The best possible future is one where the majority of people use adblockers and these fucks have to either get a real job or charge real money for their publications and thus be held to some standard of quality.

I guess people are going to have to start creating content worth paying for or actually selling real things or something. How did the world even work before ad revenue? I can't fucking imagine it. How will we ever live without news sources that scramble to put up the same shit as everybody else ASAP without bothering to be real news reporters and do checks before posting their garbage, thereby creating an echo chamber of shitty, fake news? The news industry will never recover. These are dark days indeed.

I cant believe its legal to auto-load ad videos with sound

Be a beggar.

topkek

Anzu is a trap

People in the future will buy their own servers and give it to other people to use just so we won't need to view ads ever again.

HEAR ME UP
WHAT IF
HOLD UP
WHAT IF WEBSITES GPU MINED WHILE YOURE WATCHING

lies
anzu

Fuck you! All, and I mean ALL, sites that I tried disabling ad-block for always bombard you with random popups, random obnoxious ads that actually can drive people away from those sites and random exploitation and porn sites.
If you have a child that uses the internet, even with your supervision, ad-blocker is a must!

I can't believe it's legal for anybody with a buck to shove any kind of false or manipulative content they want into my face, as long as they call it an "advertisement"

Shes only attracted to asians and blacks.

Fuck that noise

Ad blocking general
What is the best way to block anti ad blockers and ad block killers?

That's a cute boi

Legitimate sites don't rely on advertising revenue. When you rely on advertising, you stop being a legitimate site since the advertisers control your content.
If anything, we're freeing people who want to make legitimate sites from feeling as if advertising is a real way to support their website, and in doing so, preventing them from sacrificing what they wanted to do to keep advertising revenue high.

Shut up, Brendan.

When sites will stop hiding pop-up ads into invisible overlays, loading heavy auto-play videos, using 50% of the GUI for ads and clickbaits, and using big "DOWNLOAD" fake buttons while the real ones are just tiny labels, only then I will feel a little sorry for blocking their ads anyway.
Also all the "disable adblock to view this site" is just hypocrisy, either you publish free content or you don't.

I hope she realoses she's growing old and wrinkly and would be deprecated soon

advertising is inherently deceiving therefore it is not a legitimate way to make money. websites using ads are not legitimate sites.

I completely agree. These anti-ad fags don't realize that once enough of them start using ad blocker, sites will just go the way of netflix and usenet. You try paying server costs and spending your time working on a codebase without getting paid for it.

"Ad blockers" don't block ads, they block unwanted external servers.
Go ahead, it's your site. You have the freedom to put ads on it and I could only block it manually.
If your site is generating enough traffic to be worthwhile you'll have no problem finding an advertisement offer in this free market?
You know there's no way for me to block actual ads on your site without pulling them first right? Of course I'm not talking about hotlinks to malicious domains.

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you can't stop me from getting rid of certain html elements from the code I download. get a job if you need money

When it was static image banners at the top and bottom of a page or text ads I and many others did not give a shit.
Then you came along with gif animations and most of us let it slide.

Then you started:
>popups (even browsers just blocked this when it got so bad)
>popunders
>making ads with auto play videos
>making ads with auto play sound
>having advertising cover the content
>having advertising move around the page
a few years ago I saw an ad zoom itself over an article I was trying to read half way through reading it. It was what drove me to adblock and was the last ad I ever saw.
>dishonesty (fake download buttons etc.)
>tracking us and selling data you have no right to
>redirecting or otherwise trying to hijack what I am trying to do

Now I block everything wholesale with no discrimination.

You blew it, get fucked.

The case FOR adblock is simple: advertising companies went out of control and started being obnoxious with ads: constantly tracking us, misleading popups (we're smart enough to not click them, but the older generation isn't), and just generally annoying practices. They refused to reign themselves in, and thus, adblock.

I don't put ads on my site because near 100% of the content is made by its viewers.

As an ex-forum operator, it is incredibly frustrating to deal with users who use adblocking software. There is no way to block them because the blocking scripts (that you can't read because they're obfuscated) have scripts to circumvent them.

Your choices are:
1. Deal with it, and allow people to get away with blocking all your (non-malicious, non-tracking) advertiments
2. Use some non-free javascript code to block the advertisements (pointless because people will bypass it anyway)
3. Plead for your users to not block your ads (They'll block them anyway)

And even when Adblock Plus introduced the "acceptable ads" program, people flocked to uBlock Origin because it lets you block ads that do no harm at all.

I too hope for some legislation making their use illegal, but in a privacy-respecting, non-intrusive way.

Kill yourself.

>my ads are ok why u block me

The trust between advertisers in general and users is broken. No one cares who you are or what your practices are any more.

So in closing,
pssh nothin personnel kid.

What an incredibly polite comment.

>The trust between advertisers in general and users is broken. No one cares who you are or what your practices are any more.

I don't think it's a matter of trust. I think it's a matter of people not wanting to see advertisements. You can have the most transparent, privacy-respecting advertising and advertising software, and people will still block your ads. You could collect clicks (and nothing more about them, simply the fact that they were clicked and the time this occurred) and people will still block you. Of course, this lack of data also means you get less advertisers.

People are stingy and greedy, and they don't want to see any advertising at all. It's not a matter of privacy or security (two things I value very very much). It's a matter of not wanting to see ads.

>adblocking software ruining the revenue of legitimate sites?

good

Invent a better business model (that is, if you consider your forum a 'business'. If so, why is that the case?). Otherwise, I hope all your users start using adblock.

>You can have the most transparent, privacy-respecting advertising and advertising software, and people will still block your ads.
Yes because I'm already not seeing those ads because I already had to block all ads thanks to the insufferable sites using audio ads, popups, on click ads and so on. I'm also not going to suddenly start seeing your acceptable ads if you send me a 'hey i see ur usin a blocker dude :^)' popup, because I'm either already using an anti-adblock blocker, or as soon as I see that I'm hitting the back button and finding a different site.

Not wanting to see something that is offered to me isn't stealing. It's not wanting what is offered. Fuck off

maybe don't load ads with driveby shit 99% of the time

too late for reasonable arguments, that ship sailed.

>you are basically thief
and you -are- one by jamming dataminers into ads. who are you trying to ruse?

Why run ads on a forum when the operating costs are not that high?

>Invent a better business model (that is, if you consider your forum a 'business'. If so, why is that the case?). Otherwise, I hope all your users start using adblock.

There is no reason for me to "invent" anything. The service is mine, and it is offered to you. You can use it on my grounds, or you can use something elsewhere. I respect the "free market" of the Internet. Advertising is a way to help keep the site up without you having to do anything other than simply not block them.

Say for example there is a sticky asking politely for users to disable their adblocker, would you? I would never implement one of those scripts that prevent the use of a website because of an adblocker being turned on because as you pointed out those scripts are pointless. Not only that, they're non-free software that could potentially gathering data on users.

All money counts

>i hope someone changes the law because I cannot run a script to break the script they are running to prevent scripts
get a load of this guy

I get it, I do, low traffic forums need some amount of cash. but that doesn't mean you get to support the reason 90% of the ad structure is virus ridden and then push changes in law because it inconviniences you a bit, change your business model to something that works in the current decade (cause the one you're still pushing hasn't worked in 10.)

nevermind, just put a message that says please please unblock ads blocking your front page, anyone with a brain will know what to do. close the page.

it ain't geocities anymore.

The internet was meant to be a communications network.
Hosting a server that sends data to anyone who asks for data is a neat thing if you want to give people data for free, but don't cry about people getting your data for free.
Advertisement is not a payment method.
You get money from your sponsors so you can continue to give data away for free.
Nobody can steal from you in this scenario.
You don't have a contract with everyone to buy stuff from your sponsors if they watch your data. There is no meaningful law that can be made here.

I will not use adblock as much when the advertisers make a better work filtering their stuff and when pages have a decent amount of ads.

We, the people using adblocking sw are winning so far. how do we know this, Google is incorporating a fucking adblock in chrome!
Im not against ads, Im against sites that abuse them and the mothefucking ads that atoplay video/audio, blink faster than a laser in a rave or steal the motherfucking focus.
Blaming the users is nice and all, but what is OP doing to improve the user experience on his/her site/blog?
>I don't doubt there will be legislation in place in the future preventing it.
sensible chuckle.gif

>mute television and go into another room during advertisement break
>cops kick down the door and arrest me for stealing the television show

I know you're sarcasm, but blaming the users is what made me stop giving a damn and just block all. even good sites can be sideloaded, i've seen that too.

just another reason meshnet needs to exist.

I'm actually pretty wary of this. By controlling the ads people see om the browser level they are able to control ads on the majority of PC and android users. They are able to have more exposure and more attention from the user for their own ads due to other ads being shown less. Keep in mind google not only owns ads on their own site, but also on other sites through their own ad delivery. Consider that normies, a much more sizable portion of the internet, do nor block ads, and how some people would start unblocking ads altogether after this, google are set to claim a much larger chunk of ad viewership than ever before.

Google taking control of ads also means that they are able to censor the ads from the entire internet. Sites that rely on ad revenue from kids too dumb to run adblock will die out, especially torrent sites, since the reward no longer matches up to the risk involved. Also looking at how youtube having not single hint of remorse or anything of consequence after malignantly abusing the lifeblood of youtubers who idiotically rely on youtube, where worker's rights no longer apply, for their entire revenue stream, it's no longer a stretch to assume the same thing would not apply to acceptable ads 2: electric boogaloo.

I sure hope people who mute TV ads will get life sentence
t. shitposter

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No one is greedy for not wanting to see ads everywhere. Decades of rampant abuse have taught millions the world over to avoid, block and circumvent ads wherever possible.

If ads didn't go from static banner images to flashing siren pop ups that give you seizures, people wouldn't adblock