/pcbg/ - PC Building General

If you want help:
>Assemble parts list
pcpartpicker.com/
>State the budget for your build (and country if not USA)
>List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate
>Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs?
How to assemble a PC, select components & more (outdated)
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC

CPUs:
No Ryzen unless discounted, they have bad single-threaded performance and have hardcoded bugs at the moment.
>G4560 - poverty-tier builds
>i5 7640X - Budget builds (i7 7740X - Best for gaming
>i9 7900X - Best for gaming and productivity

GPUs:
Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser
>Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games
>GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both
>RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz
>RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games
>GTX 1070 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high
>GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p
>GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games
>Vega soon.

RAM:
>Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM
>Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM

General:
ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS!
Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later
NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor.
The Ryzen lineup comes with surprisingly good stock coolers. consider using them over any

Other urls found in this thread:

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103202
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822178993
pcpartpicker.com/list/CHnv9W
ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2sMgM8
ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/GtrgM8
pcpartpicker.com/list/Tw7jr7
pcpartpicker.com/list/ddqrbj
es.pcpartpicker.com/guide/tXNnTW/entry-level-gaming-build.
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236757
newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0JC-000D-004W2
pcpartpicker.com/list/QKLTkT
pcpartpicker.com/list/74QbPs
dropfile.to/BmR83xa
pcpartpicker.com/list/j2MNbj
au.pcpartpicker.com/list/XPps3F
youtube.com/watch?v=homWKqi_gXU
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186153
kitguru.net/components/cooling/dominic-moass/arctic-liquid-freezer-240-aio-cpu-cooler-review/5/
twitter.com/AnonBabble

If you're feeling bold, don't mind playing The Rebate Game, and have at least a mid tower case:

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103202

Bought one a couple days ago, thinking of replacing the fan with a Noctua F12 and seeing what that can do for my CPU temps

The subject is memory
Of course GPU is 99-100%, but If there was a clearly bottleneck shit there wouldn't be benefit from higher memory clock, 'cuz gpu is fucking things up
you could say memory who is bottle-necking performance, but my questions regarding sub 60 remains

In what scenario will a CPU bottleneck occur sub 60 FPS?

What are the ram with the best compatibility with Ryzen.

It's more of a motherboard thing, check for the motherboard QVL.

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822178993

2TB 7200 RPM for $60 today only

> No Ryzen unless discounted, they have bad single-threaded performance and have hardcoded bugs at the moment.

This has to be bait.

Is Sup Forums just an enormous Intel/Mac shill dump?

...

Looking to build a PC around
$1000 Australian

Okay. Do you expect someone to build it for you?

I'm expecting suggestions like it says in OP

pcpartpicker.com/list/CHnv9W

If you had read the OP, you would know that is specifically says that if you want help, your gonna have to atleast start a part list yourself you massive waste of space.

this is my first build, looking to spend a little less, and the main purpose of my machine is to edit videos and maybe play a few games here and there.
ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2sMgM8

>a few games
are you trying to max 120 fps

what can a 4690k oc to 4.3ghz be equivalent to today? a stock 6600k maybe?

If you're looking to edit / render videos, a Ryzen 1600 would be a better choice. Get a b350 mobo with that, and add an HDD to your build. You can also drop the Hyper Evo, Ryzens come with amazing stock coolers.
Try to spend a little less on the case, and drop to a 1070 / 1060 (6GB IF YOU'RE GONNA GET A 1060!) if you don't play too many resource intensive games.

you can bump that PSU down to 750 without worry, unless there's a whole bunch of other bells and whistles you're adding on but aren't listed

put the savings into a better heat sink, 212 EVO won't be enough for that CPU

i really dont know what im doing. i just picked what looked like a good video card. im tired of editing videos slowly its irritating.
what video card would you recommend thats not overkill that could take 2 monitors or a ultra wide?

Here. ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/GtrgM8

what heat sink would you recommend?
thank you very much for the specifics!

>ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/GtrgM8
thanks thats looks like a beaut! looks very good

If your monitors are both standard HD at 60 Hz, you can probably drop from a GTX 1080 to a GTX 1070; if not, keep the 1080

Look into a Ryzen 5 1600/1600X for your processor though, it'll probably do everything you want it to do for MUCH cheaper than that Intel you've picked out

so this will be my nas/esxi server
any suggestions?
first upgrade will be another 16 gigs of ram
pcpartpicker.com/list/Tw7jr7

How does this look?
pcpartpicker.com/list/ddqrbj
The budget is pretty much maxed already in this (I know the 1080 is out of stock right now, I know how much it adds to my build), I've got a 1920x1080 monitor 144hz, I want to be able to play Overwatch, CS, Rust, Ark on high FPS medium settings.I was wondering if there was any improvements I could make without impacting the budget too much.

>finish building glorious new pc
>look for screws for case wall
>one of them is missing

I got a core i3 3210. If I get a core i5 2500, will I get a noticeable increase in performance? I only want to upgrade the cpu.

Might as well throw everything out now desu

>paying for windows
>paying more than $100 for 16gb dirt ram
>paying more than $60 for mid atx case

Not him but where the fuck can I buy 16 gigs of DDR4 ram for less than $100?

you can't, atleast not for higher frequency dimms

I have a problem. I'm building my first PC and I just mounted everything. I followed all the guides step by step, and I even toke precautions to avoid static electricity damaging components. And when i connected everything, the monitor won't recognize signal, and I connected it to my GPU dvi port using a vga adapter for the monitor. I also tried using an HDMI, and connecting the a VGA to the motherboard instead. Also the computer restart itself like ever 20 seconds or so. Also GPU cooler stop working, but I don't know if that is normal because it shut down itself if it isn't being used. I think the problem is that the CPU overheats because the thermal paste that came pre-applied in the CPU cooler is shit and I live in Spain with 40 Celsius degrees as room temperature. I just bought thermal paste, I'm waiting for Amazon to deliver. I bought these pieces es.pcpartpicker.com/guide/tXNnTW/entry-level-gaming-build.

Fug

Move somewhere not so hot

>want to buy temporary replacement GPU for my 5770
>turns out no new cards cna be used because the mainboard does not have an UEFI bios

Gotta endure until Zen2 then

What do you want to see, when you hover over a PSU for some extra info?

The one on the right is what I am planning right now.

which one of these monitors is superior?

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236757

newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0JC-000D-004W2

Primary usage will be gaming with a side of content creation, workstation, 3D modelling, video and photo editing stuff to a lesser degree.

Also i have a nvidia gpu so freesync doesnt really matter to me as i dont plan on upgrading for a long time

>OEM
Yes please!

>PCIe
I don't really care. I know it will have enough

>Efficiency
At higher ratings, efficiency at lower liadings is a big differentiating factor, so maybe also something about that

There is no fresh place in my home, the basement is like 30 Celsius too.

>At higher ratings, efficiency at lower liadings is a big differentiating factor
That sort of data is not going to be easily available, as not all PSUs are reviewed by the same people, and not all reviewers do low-power testing.

Just bought one of those for my nephew last week. Top-tier reviews.

please tell me where i can find 16gb ddr4 for under 100 in EU all knowing one

~7 year old design, and still an excellent choice.

msi gtx 770 2gb for $50 usd good? i dont plan on playing anything other than csgo with it on an old rig from 2008

considering the 1151 pentiums are all 70+ dollars i would go ryzen 1200 even for normies (autistic Sup Forums normies) mom builds can still be the 3930 for facebook gaming and netflix streaming

this is the default build

pcpartpicker.com/list/QKLTkT

Good for $50. Better than a 1050 Ti, not as good as a 1060 3GB.

Wait what
A 1050 ti is better than a 680/770

More feedback on this, please.

Yes, it will boost performance in pretty much everything, since you're doubling the core count and the cores are just as strong. If you're gaymen the gains wont be too huge unless you're playing recent titles, but will still be very significant.

Also be aware than in going from Ivy Bridge to Sandy Bridge you'll lose things like SATA3, USB3 and all the other stuff the newer chipset features.

The 770 sits between the 1050 Ti and 1060 3GB.

I have the same Asus in a smaller variant and it's a very nice monitor.. I'm not worried about color accuracy though so I cannot comment on that but if you value it then the LG may be worth the extra cash ror that and the freesync tax could still work if you sell it in a future upgrade.

About to make the leap from 32 to 64 bit. Any tips?

>Corsair Air 240 looks great
>Can't fit 1080 Ti and NH-D15 in

Thermaltake Core V21 it is then.

nothing uses more than 300-400watts under load and thats when benchmarking the CPU and GPU individually at the same time

just get the cheapest a 400 watt EVGA

I'm not a super duper expert on recent AMD cards, but recent Nvidia offerings have had no analog out what so ever, so that explains why using a DVI to VGA converter is displaying nothing.

Anyway, your restarting issue sounds like it isn't related to the GPU, which is probably a bad sign. Unless you're retarded and applied it wrong, there's absolutely no way the CPU can overheat at idle just because your ambient is 40C. It could be anything from a dead CPU, to dead RAM, to a dead motherboard or even a PSU maybe.

Assuming you weren't an idiot and bought multiple dimms of RAM, try it with just one stick (try both), and try it in each in different motherboard slots and see what happens.

Did you install it in a case yet or is it just a test run on a cardboard box?

New

Good luck running a 1080Ti and 7900X on 400W.

Even if you aren't going for a balls to the walls system, I still wouldn't fancy running a 1600X and Vega 56 on a 400W PSU, it might work, but holy fuck are you cutting it close. Besides, the industry is moving away from super low power consumption shit anyway, as seen by AMD introducing a 350W single GPU card, and Intel getting BTFO by Ryzen meaning their next line of processors will likely use another 50% more power, given they are basically going to be Kaby lake with an additional two cores.

A 500W or more PSU is barely more expensive, and will be quieter under load. There's a reason most manufacturers start their lines with a PSU around 500w. If I was building a Vega 64 + 8700K system in 6 months time I'd sure as shit want a 600W PSU minimum.

okay so its a bit under 500 once you add the ram and mobo

theres a 600 EVGA on sale so you go with that

pcpartpicker.com/list/74QbPs

Okay Sup Forums
I've got a r9 280x powered with a 2 x molex to pci-e 8 pin and I'm planning to use either a 2 x sata to pci-e 6 pin or a single sata to power the 6 pin, should I be fine using just the single sata?

Can't you use more more molex connectors? I assume it's a super old PSU doesn't just have PCIe connectors? Some PSU's might not like putting out such a high amount of power to their sata connectors, given they were only intended for 10w HDD's.

Personally I'd spend the $50 on a new PSU and not have to worry about dying of smoke inhalation in my sleep.

Sadly, both my available molex connectors are taken up by the 8 pin, would a single molex more be able to support a 6 pin in the first place?

That looks really good. I don't think any other information would be readily available.

To you refer to PSU test sites like jonnyguru? Even with the same OEM quality may differ drastically between product series. To give direct feedback over that may be helpful, but it might only be available for a fraction of PSUs at all and it would be a bitch to manually put the data in I guess.

Yes, you can convert a 6pin PCIe to 8pin PCIe without issue in most cases, so if you have to run some stupid janky setup of adapters that would be the way to do it. Do the molex connectors you've got come on their own as each separate cable, or are they daisy chained from the PSU like pic related?

What is the make and model of the PSU? Have you considered perhaps the reason it doesn't have enough power cables is because it wasn't meant to feed a high end GPU?

It's a 550w Chinese something, but yes both molex connectors are daisy chained, with a sata and a floppy daisy chained to the same cable, while the second cable has two satas daisy chained to each other. I think I might be able to get away with it just for a few weeks until I can afford a proper power supply, hopefully.

>It's a 550w Chinese something
Just seriously throw it in the bin and buy it reputable. If it says it's 550w it really means it's (((550w))), it has the chance of damaging your expensive components and/or catching fire. Buy something 500W+ from EVGA, Seasonic or Silverstone with an 80PLUS rating and you'll be golden. It isn't worth the risk for like $50.

What PSU exactly? "Chinese something" varies from well made superflower PSUs to "chinglong will blow your shit up if you try to use more than a third of what its rated for". Do not build adapter contraptions without knowing for certain that the PSU can handle it. Do not use unknown, possibly shitty PSUs at all with expensive hardware.

>CPUs:
>No Ryzen unless discounted, they have bad single-threaded performance and have hardcoded bugs at the moment.
>>G4560 - poverty-tier builds
>>i5 7640X - Budget builds (>i7 7740X - Best for gaming
>>i9 7900X - Best for gaming and productivity


Thanks for the free advertisement goy

It means it's Jewish?

I made a video, but I cannot into webm so I don't know how to make one without sound

dropfile.to/BmR83xa

>and have hardcoded bugs at the moment
what bugs

Add -an to your ffmpeg command

here's one: kill yourself

None, its just baiting

Spotted the AMD shill. You only have to head over to r/ AMD to see the asshurt apocalypse over there about the recent Ryzen issues.

why is the OP hijacked by intel

Keep telling yourself that schlomo.

>There are people here who think spending less that $100 on a PSU is a good idea

for a streaming + light gaming rig, is the 1400 enough or should I bump up to 1600?

pcpartpicker.com/list/j2MNbj

A 1400 should suffice. I'd suggest getting a modular PSU if this is your first build, you can find some for about 40 / 20ish more than your current one.

good bait in the op.
Anyway, ausfag here, no set budget, just checking with you guys that I'm not getting memed on any of my part choices.
Also, anyone got any experience building in the 570x? I like the aesthetic but I'm not great at cable management. Is it going to give me a migraine?

au.pcpartpicker.com/list/XPps3F

I mean, the 570x is a meme in itself but if you'd like to get a look at the cable management PCPartPicker made a cable management timelapse video.
youtube.com/watch?v=homWKqi_gXU
Other than that, it looks good. No HDD?

I think I found the problem. The pre-applied thermal paste that came with the CPU cooler is shit. Pic related, I'm pretty sure that the computer reset itself because the CPU overheat a lot with that shitty thermal paste that probably do nothing.

just get like arctic or other decent thermalpaste

I bought a Noctua NT-H1, I'm waiting for Amazon to deliver it

>streaming
You'll want 6+ cores pal, a 1600 isn't that much more expensive anyway when you consider the mobo and RAM are going to cost you as much.

That won't change anything, the thermal paste that comes pre applied with the stock cooler is more than enough to cool the CPU properly during idle.

You aren't going to be hitting 105C before the system even POSTs you shitter, and even if it did it would just throttle, not shut down.

Lisa Su makes my dick ryzen.

I'm gonna rebuild the PC again too, if it still doesn't work, I'm probably gonna change the parts since it has warranty.

THICC

Why aren't there high end mATX boards?

Jonnyguru is the best, and TPU does surprisingly good PSU reviews.

So AMD said that AM4 will be supported for Zen+ and Zen2 (I think that's what they are calling them). Is it the same for the TR4 socket? Like, will a ThreadRipper refresh and ThreadRipper refresh refresh work so I can just swap out the CPU and keep the motherboard? Because TR4 mitherboards are expensive as fuck.

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186153

Thoughts on this lil lad?

I'm looking at a 1200/1050ti build with a seasonic g series 360w psu because it feels like it should be enough

will going for 450w prevent me from getting fucked over in the future?

It is good.

kitguru.net/components/cooling/dominic-moass/arctic-liquid-freezer-240-aio-cpu-cooler-review/5/

I know ryzen 1600 doesn't have integrated gpu but can i just test it if it works fine even if my gpu hasn't arrived yet

True. But what I was asking is if you refer to those tests directly on the site