I just want to be Russian ;-;

I just want to be Russian ;-;

just quit your job and develop a drinking problem

>I just want a direct downgrade in my quality of life

>USA to Russia
>downgrade

eh probably wouldn't be all that different desu

you decide for yourself

This is all meme shit and at least Russia has culture, an interesting history and better education than the U.S.

>better education than the U.S.
tolsto

No you don't.

>clueless american slavaboo wants to be russian
Trust me, you don't.

dumb fuck

He probably means that we lknow more and it's correct. School education is still good despite Americanisation.

No you don't. You really don't.

What's with all the americans rejecting their nationality lately ?
has shillary won yet ?

If you become Russian it means you're a majority discriminated in your own country leaded by old KPSS people who have no idea how economy and diplomacy work, and they fuck up the laws, medicine and society every year. The only forces who oppose them are people who want to spread cheeks to USA and Muslims so we become a cuck nation like Germans but poor and more brown. Somebody, end this suffering.

>at least Russia has culture
Ha!

>Corrupt, dysfunctional petrostate shithole.
>Populace ravaged by alcohol, drugs, and AIDS. Divorce rampant.
>Only redeeming quality is the military budget.
>Led by an autistic manlet.

>omg Russia is so cool! Fugging communist Jews ruined it! Le saviors of le white race!

>tfw i'm Putin's height and slightly autistic

You want to be a surly alcoholic?

why does Sup Forums hate Russia so much? It's objectively better than the U.S. Fuck all of you

t. Never been to Russia

I'm sure most of the anons hating on Russia itt have never been either

>change first world country
>for four

>usa
>first world

i wish you knew how does living there actually look like

>He probably means that we lknow more and it's correct. School education is still good despite Americanisation.
yea but who gives a fuck since you can't do anything with it.

muh education meme is just that, a meme.

this website is bullshit 2bh. not even from a russian vs english standpoint but they just outright miss-report data

russian vs american standpoint*

You have more chances to get into a good uni with good school education. Also it's obivously better to live in a society with more educated people than with ignorant ones.

>You have more chances to get into a good uni with good school education. Also it's obivously better to live in a society with more educated people than with ignorant ones.
ah yes, and you can all live poor and starve while reading academic papers together. glad you like it

>Go to a good uni
>Poor and starve
Trolling? I thought Americans value education.

>Trolling? I thought Americans value education.
what are you going to do with a "better" education? get rich? move up the corporate latter?

unless you move to a western country, you won't get anywhere on merit alone

Every ape in Russia has education but it doesn't mean that it is educated.

a half of your Silicon Walley is russian
Sergey Brin (Google), Sergey Belousov (Acronis, Parallels), Grigory Shenkman and Alik Miloslavsky (Exigen Services), Stepan Pachikov ( Evernote), David Yan (ABBYY), Yan Kum (WhatsApp), Valentine Gapontsev (Silicon Valley Technology Center ), Yuri Milner (Facebook, Zynga, Twitter, Spotify, Groupon), Maks Levchin (PayPal)

The divorce rates are not that different from western countries

>what are you going to do with a "better" education? get rich? move up the corporate latter?
yes actually. better education leads to better career opportunities, better opportunities leads to better pay, better pay leads to a more comfortable life. education is far from a meme bro.

not in Russia friend
education here it's nothing without your relations

That definitely is but only in white world.

Get a good job obivously. Are you NEET or something?

>unless you move to a western country
Did I say a word about staying or not staying here? Personally I'd prefer Eastern Europe like lots of other Russians. But getting rich is easier in Russia than in any western country because of low competition. Some laws and corruption can slow you don but the perspectives are better. After the crisis people have less money to dispose ofc., it's the biggest issue but it's temporary.

Almost like Zhvanetsky said: "Higer technical education... means no education at all".

>Higer technical education... means no education at all
humanitarian you mean

It's what he said. He obivously meant that Soviet tech education only gives you tech knowledge but it don't make you an educated person in a cultural way. No idea if it was true. I think it's a non-issue now since everyone has got an easy access to all the fucking literature. It's a parents' and school job to cteate "cultured persons". I would prefer universities to be more focused on specialisations like in the U, it's more effective.

>like in the U
S of A.

US university is generally liberal arts, you might be thinking of Europe.

>US university is generally liberal arts
If I only knew what does it mean. No engeneers, scientists, biologists, doctors or architects in America? Don't try to cheat me.

>it's a parent's and school's job
Implying both of them are able to do that.

In the US, no matter what you study, you generally spend 1-2 years covering "prerequisites". These are things like basic math, basic literature, science, etc. So that you will be "well-rounded" as an individual. You don't choose a specialty and study only that for 4 years.

No lies here comrade.
75% of our doctors and engineers are Asian immigrants imported because our own people are too retarded.

Where I work there are zero Americans, besides me. My team is literally 16 indian guys/girls plus my boss who is Russian.

Some do pretty good. We're talking in English here, see?

Even in universities? Why would a coder study literature if did that in school? He pays for studying how to code, not for Doctorow.

What's your job?

>75% of our doctors and engineers are Asian immigrants

You're right.
The argument against is that you want the coder to have that intangible "worldy" element, to round out his mind and expand his horizons.
So goes the theory. In Europe, you just study what you want.

>we're talking english here
Doesn't mean anything about a person. I (or you) could be a terrible bydlo ape in real life.

>Even in universities? Why would a coder study literature if did that in school?
Same shit here, are you even study somewhere?

Software developer at a major drilling company.

These statistics are pretty hard to find, but I really have on reason to lie.

you literally just described America

especially this part:
>it means you're a majority discriminated in your own country

i want to be a qt blonde gril from either Sweden, Denmark, Norway, or the Netherlands

US went from 1st world to developing nation

the only remaining good thing about this country is its salaries, freedom of speech, and gun laws

>Russia has culture
Lmao wut
>an interesting history
LMAO WUT
>better education than the U.S.
LMAAAAAAAAAAAAO WUT

The salaries that have never been adjusted for like 30 years' worth of inflation?

I read some thread the other day where Euros said they're taught calculus in jr. high

where here in America most of us don't take calculus until college

true or false?

said Iceland

I agree with that argument but I think mandatory things belong to school. Well, it's good if it works.

I imagine a terrible bydlo giving me such logical arguments.

Yes but I hate our higher education. For maths for interpretors and sports for aerospace engeneers.

WOW.

Variety of climate and nature also I'd say.

Try to read about 18th and 19th centuries..

we learn integrals and derivatives in high school (10-11 grade, 16-17 years)

I learned the basics of it since the 9th grade.

my dad graduated college in the mid-80s and was making 45k year starting as an engineer

2016 and I see job ads for engineer grads around the same salary

we have some of our 11-12th graders doing calculus but I would say it's only the top of the class

That was my point. How much shit do you think 45k buys you in 2016, compared to the mid-80s?

here is a mandatory program
you will not get a high school diploma, if you don't know it

in russian engineer earn about 400$ bucks, same as driver or electronics seller

not very much, but our salaries are still better than a lot of other euro peons is what I'm trying to say

We don't classify levels of math the same way you do in the states. I don't like math and I graduated many years ago so I don't think I could think of specific examples of what we had to do in junior high.

Over a thousand years, multiple sagas, beautiful women, never burned our own capital down, never went full commie, etc. What did you do? Shit on the hopes and dreams of Muscovy by submitting to superior Western European cock like the slave (read: cлaвa) boys you are?

Boring political bullshit then Napoleon shitting on them. Such a rich culture.

>$400

per month? or...? is that USD?

how much USD does it cost you to buy food for a week?

Lmao no one burned down your capital because you're an irrelevant icecub and literally no one would want to go there.

Iceland literally only managed to justify its existence after they started fishing and selling cod for lent.

Why should our culture be judged on how much Eurocucks cared about it? We're one of the most advanced, safe, stable, and intelligent countries in the world, all the better that Hitler never gave a fuck about us.

yes per month
Everywhere in the World people says their salary per month
about 50$ for a week if you are not rich

a whore costs 80 bucks for hour, welcome

Dude you are just Norwegians that went to frozen iceland and their boats broke so they stayed there.

Russia is a shithole but saying they dont have history or culture is retarded

>discuss about Russian culture
>boring political bullshit
You have a good understanding in the issue.
Also, US fags, what's about your deportation politic? Have I any chances to have a quiet illegal live in US without deportation? Is that hard to implement?

I'm talking about Russia. Not America.

You could come here on some sort of visa and just stay in the country after it runs out. But you'd have to make all of your money "under the table" as legally no legitimate business would be able to employ you. Both you and the business would get in huge trouble. I guess if you worked odd jobs and worked for cash only it might be possible to stay here illegally. No idea whether you'd be able to rent an apartment or buy a home unless, again, you paid for everything in actual cash.

It works in any country.

It's very easy, but you will live a very poor life with no opportunity to improve your situation unless you become a citizen or at least become a very successful criminal.

If you have an education though, you could apply for jobs that will sponsor you. A million poo2loos do this every year, you could too probably.

I get it, thanks. Are there many illegal jobs in US or it's hard to find?

You spelled Jewish wrong

You could probably do low level shit like scavenging for scrap metal, taking varied jobs as a handyman, or stuff that other migrants (mostly illegals do), like picking fruit. But you would basically be homeless.

If you want to make big bucks doing illegal shit, all you have to do is figure out how to buy and sell hard drugs on the street (cocaine, crack, heroin, etc). You could even go around calling yourself a Russian mobster and people would believe you. That's what I think of when you say "illegal jobs." And yes, drug dealers are everywhere, particularly in poor areas and big cities.

yes they are Jews but they get education in Soviet Union and it was free

By "illegal job" I mean the job without official job permission whatever it calls.

>It works in any country.
yea but the the magnitude of bottom up success in Russia is nothing like the USA

your best bet is to just apply as an international student and get a visa that way, then you have a path to citizenship

sure the money is better than Eastern Europe. but you're trading in your culture, heritage, cute women, and lack of faggot niggers. if you stay here, your grandchildren will likely be spics or mulattos given the birthrates and demographic shift taking place.

whats the difference

Illegal jobs are easy to find, but you will not be able to make a living doing that. My uncle is a smuggler, and most illegals that he brings in from Mexico live in trailer parks, like 10 people in a small dirty trailer built to for 3.

Honestly you would probably be better living in Ukraine, but if you plan to become legal at some point you will have a very nice life. Ignore this retard.

Anyway there will be very easy way to come back to my shithole.

>Ignore this retard for bringing up valid points

ok dumbfuck, there's plenty of statistics on the demographic shift, it's not exactly a well kept secret. kill yourself

I'm a decent guy with engineer education. I hope I have more chances to became legal citizen than mexican haven't I?

Success is a success. I don't get you, you're also changing the topic.

I would think so. You would just have to find a US employer who can sponsor you and bring you over here on a work visa. I don't know how that process works, though.

From my understanding, when applying for a work-related visa you have to prove that an American is unable to do the same you would be doing; I would assume the immigration process has a similar vetting process for permanent immigration.

I can climb to 5th floor without a heart attack. Apparently I'm good at meming.

Absolutely you do.
What kind of engineering education do you have?

Proving an American is unable to do the job isn't difficult at all, especially in STEM where there is a severe shortage.

There are staffing agencies who specifically work with immigrant to place them in jobs and an H1B visa, and this is how most of the poo2loos I work with became residents.

Navigation systems of satellites.

You have no clue how fucking shit Ukraine is

>you have to prove that an American would demand higher pay for the same you would be doing
ftfy senpai