I'm surprised Turkey was able to have a coup. I thought they could only gobble

I'm surprised Turkey was able to have a coup. I thought they could only gobble.

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That was such a corny joke.

Do you think it was a real coup? The situation right now is, that Erdogan is stronger than before.

It's either going to be full dictatorship or there is another coup and Turkey will end up like Tunisia or Egypt.

Fuck Turkey, I'm enraged and more concerned with poor animals killed by benevolent assheads.

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>Do you think it was a real coup?
oh boy here we go again

I also get angry when I see dumb moms with their kids throwing white bread at ducklings.

I think it was real. Just because someone failed to take down the govt doesn't mean its a conspiracy or false flag or whatever.

Fact is if you disagree with a govt......you need peaceful protest, voting, etc. Violence only begets more violence ESPECIALLY in the Middle East (famous for this). Pull down one dictator (Saddan Hussein, etc), millions of terrorists will flood in so fast.

"Poor animals" nothing. I am sorry but people romanticise animals too much. Animals don't give a shit. They die every day, eat each other alive, torture each other, rape each other, deliberately target crippled or young, eat their own young, etc.

Animals are fucking assholes and would not give a single shit if they saw a human dying. Why do humans go out of their way to boo hoo over a single turtle? It makes us look like far bigger retards than the girl who chucked a tortise into the water.

Except Turkey isn't (wasn't) a dictatorship and secularism has been preserved for nearly a century. Expect them to go full kebab in the coming years.

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Going full kebab is inevitable when dealing with Islam.

It's even worse for me since I actually have two turtles (yep, swimming ones) at home. It's pretty fucking simple to understand that if an animal does not have webbed digits, then it's almost pretty damn certainly isn't supposed to swim.

Plus, even if they 'rescued' them, why the fuck they had to throw them like a boulder? It can be potentially harmful despite the fact they have a carapace.

Eat shit, edgy faggot.Of course they would and wouldn't do all those listed things, they are bloody animals, they inherently lack something called INTELLIGENCE.

People are complaining that Erdogan (sp?) is a dictator. I have no idea if he is or if he isn't. Just repeating what I heard. If he's not a dictator, all the more reason why they could just vote a different guy if they want to. Violence definitely isn't the answer regardless. They did a stupid thing trying to make a coup. I might disagree with Obama on some issues but I would never try to make a coup. If I did I would get my ass handed to me and rightfully so.

"Secularism" doesn't mean much. Some of the nicest countries on Earth are not secular (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_religion#Current_state_religions). Some of the worst countries on Earth are secular (North Korea). What is "secular"? Some people say USA is not secular because we have the word "God" on the money and in the anthem. And Christmas is a holiday too. Some peopel say we are secular because anyone can practice whatever religion they want.

The important thing isn't secular vs. unsecular its "are people happy or able to pursue happiness?", "are people free?", "are peoples lives or livelihoods under threat?" (Yes, Yes, No).

i don't think it was real too, but whatever

Yeah sure. So they lack intelligence meaning they rape and murder and torture and kill and don't give a shit about anyone but themselves.

So.........why exactly are we supposed to get outraged when they die by human hands? Why?

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Yeah thats me. How did you know?

he literally controls the press and doesn't allow shit to be said in the country

Secular means non-Muslim in this context. Islam is at odds with freedom and 21st century western lifestyles--although Christianity as understood centuries ago would also be.

Tortoises can swim though

because they're innocent you dumb fuck
it's not like us where we know better (which is why we find it horrible to kill someone)
they're just dumb and they're born like that. like retards. you don't go "fuck retards", you go "poor retards, they don't know better"
btw are you a sociopath?

It's called having Empathy you dumb cunt

It's about expecting our behavioral patterns in everything sentient. A western thing.

I do however advocate for the preservation of endangered wildlife.

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depends on the animal
many animals are pretty cool

Turkey is middle east, not really Western. And times change. A lot of people say that in the future the West will be much more Muslim, and afaict, that is true. It is not true that Muslims will take over 100% (mostly an exaggeration), but there will be a lot more Muslims, both immigrant and convert. So even if its not compatible with 21st century Western lifestyles, it is compatible (theoretically) with 22nd century liefstyles.


Then hold a protest etc. Don't try to throw a "coup" which you know is bound to fail and even if it succeeded it would make things worse. The Middle East is fragile and it has been proven that taking down a dictator or strong leader will invite in a ton of terrorists. Which is the last thing anyone should want.

Treating animals as if they were bound by some moral code or human law...
You sir, are the real animal.

>Then hold a protest etc.
he controls that shit too m8 lol

Yeah I like to give in kind. So dogs help humans out, have known to help rescue humans, care for blind/crippled humans, etc. So if a dog gets hurt, I will care (unless its an asshole feral dog). But those animals who don't give a shit about us? I don't give a shit about them. A tortise would not give a single shit if a human was dying.

Crying over a turtle or a lion or whatever just makes us look pathetic. Remember Cecil the Lion? I would love for all those people crying over lions to go spend a year living among the lions. Lions look cool but that doesn't make then your friend.

I have empathy for my fellow human beings. Why would I have empathy for a fucking tortoise? They don't have human feelings. It makes no sense to project human feelings onto a tortise, anymore than projecting human feelings onto plants or insects or shoes. They don't have human feelings. You should have empathy for the poor dumb girl who threw the tortoise in the water. She is capable of feeling guilt over it. The tortoise just felt "durrrrrrrrr" the whole way down.

This is an insult to all the retards who don't run around murdering, raping and torturing people the way animals do.

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>Then hold a protest

You are thinking like an American my friend
Shit like that doesn't work in countries where the government can arrest anyone they feel like.

No they aren't bound by human moral codes. They rape, they murder, they torture, they are little assholes who wouldn't know the absolute basics of morality if they were spelled out for them.

So why do we pretend like its so sad when one of them accidentally gets chucked into the water? They do far far far worse to one another on a regular basis. This human gave him a far nicer death than nature gives turtles every day. "Oh how horrible, human killed this turtle who probably would have just gotten mauled by another animal if allowed to live".

how's it an insult? the retards who do those things, they're not retards anymore? they're not worth being in that group? it's just nature. different kinds of retards, different kinds of animals. simple.

If animals want the same protections that humans get (i.e. our grief when one dies), then they should be expected to contribute to human society and give a shit in return.

You know what we do to murderous, rapist retards? We put them in prison for life. Do you want to put every single animal on Earth into jail? (and no, zoos are far far more cushy than what human prisoners get) No? Then lets stop pretending animals are humans or are worth wasting our feelings on.

>tortoise cant swim
wutt?

>Then hold a protest etc.

they did, it didn't work. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gezi_Park_protests

Coups and pulling down disagreeable leaders by force hasn't worked well either. It lets in truckloads of terrorists who will cause violence in the country to no end.

>A tortise would not give a single shit if a human was dying.
It also wouldn't kill you though. It's not as intelligent as humans so it can't give a shit, but it still doesn't harm anyone so it#s not an "asshole animal".

You seem to believe animals are sentience and have a concept of morality which they universally disregard.
You're likely mentally ill and not receiving the help you need.

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animal rights are a fucking joke

>Coups and pulling down disagreeable leaders by force hasn't worked well either.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praetorian_Guard

It'll kill other animals though in the most gruesome of possible ways, and it will rape its fellow tortoises.

Human harms an animal on accident = Wow how horrible, oh the humanity
Tortoise harms another animal = "it doesn't harm anyone"

i.imgur.com/Gk37ec7.gifv (warning: nature doing what it does best aka being nasty).
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No. I know animals lack basic emotions, empathy, morals, reasoning, etc.

That's why I don't give a shit when a tortoise gets chucked into the water. The tortoise wouldn't care about me. The tortoise barely gives a shit about anything otuside of itself, and even then its not capable of the same depth of emotion or pain that a human feel.

The tortoise would watch me drown and then rape my shoes. The girl who throws the tortoise into the water would call 911 if she saw be drowning, even possibly risking her own life to swim out and save me (warning dont do this, reach or throw, do not go).

Why should I care about the tortoise? For what purpose? Tortoises are not people, and they do not deserve human empathy.

Tortoises are majorily vegan. They hardly kill other animals, nor do they rape each other.
And even if they would kill others, they gotta eat something. Humans also kill animals, because they like to eat them.

Sorry, I meant to say:
You are JUDGING animals as if they should be expected to behave within your moral standards, which is as stupid as expecting a toddler to pass a calculus exam, and also inmoral.
Besides it is kind of a childish approach to the natural world, which blinds you from the beauty of nature. It's an unhealthy bias that can only impoverish your mind.

Can't wait to remove kebab

Why should we boo-hoo over a tortoise though? That is my question.

Nature is beautiful (wow pretty sunset wow) but nature is also very ugly. In the modern world we like to pretend like its all beauty and romanticize it. But if we were living in nature we'd know how very very ugly and brutal and rapist animals are. Its not beautiful when a parasite fly burrows itself into your eyeball. Its not beautiful when animals rape and torture each other to death.

Pretending that nature and animals are all sunshine and lollipops and pretty rainbows until the big bad humans come along is what "impoverishes your mind".

>Don't try to throw a "coup" which you know is bound to fail and even if it succeeded it would make things worse.
Now you're just diving into a whole another can of worms, the coup could easily be justified by the constitution, so the military would literally be doing the right thing here. But I'm sure that's about to change real fast now, no matter who was behind this

You are doing it again
"we'd know how very very ugly and brutal and rapist animals are"
"Its not beautiful when animals rape and torture each other to death. "
I don't know how to get my point across. English is not my mother tongue, and i'm not much of a writer, but i'll try.
I wouldn't like to get a parasite in my eye either. If a mosquito bites me, I will try to kill her. But i wont hate the mosquito or the parasite for doing what they do. They just follow instinct. They do what they have to do to survive. Can you blame them for that?
Humans however, are more complicated.
They should really know better than torture or kill each other. That's why we create laws and morals. That's why we take offense at the misdemeanor of others. We know when somebody is being unfair for no good reason.
What i am trying to say is, that you shouldn't judge a being if you can't understand their perception of reality,.

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never mind all that, post more women doing dumb shit via social media etc

Good job with the 8 replies. Europeans can never tell when we're trolling. Idiots.

"Tortoises are not equipped to swim, and they can easily drown. According to NBC 6 South Florida, there were three cases of people trying to help gopher tortoise hatchlings get to the ocean last month. Gopher tortoises nest in dunes near sea turtle beaches, which can cause some confusion."

>florida

Every time.