I am German

>I am German

What did he mean by this?

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The same thing you mean when you claim to be Canadian

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>MUH HERITAGE

They're all German, deal with it.

Standard reply of foreigners in Germany when they get called out

"Erdogan is the best Turkey forever Inshalla Turkey blabla"
"Fucking Turks"
"fuck you I am German I was born here fucking racist Germans don't accept me .... Erdogan the best TURKEY forever Muhammed Jihad!"

etc

I am a Greek

They're drinking beer though you dolt.

Wew thats fucked up

You're retarded, nationality by place of birth doesn't apply to Europe the way it does to the Americas

t. Hans Mohamed

That is not how it works in Europe Amerifat.

It does though because they laws were changed, we used to have Ius sanguinis but not anymore.

He means you cannot just join a nation, even if you have citizenship. You have to be born to it to actually be part of it. American nations can just be joined.

at least they drink something better than piss water VB

So when someone moves to America their DNA changes and they're no longer German or polish or Italian?

If you move here will you no longer be Russian?

People can become American. You cannot become Russian or Polish or German.

No doubt, but my point is that explodey Muslims don't drink beer.

Why not? You think every white person in Germany are Germans? You don't think any of them are wends or Scandinavian or Anglo in ethnicity, they were just white and born in Germany?

If you become American are you no longer German?

You can, but you have to be white, christian and abandon your old language and culture over several generations

>zoom in
>enhance

They do though. Check out the profile of all these guys who carry out attacks. All of them are club goers, drug users, and heavy drinkers.

It seems the pious ones are the ones who don't go boom

Pic very related

unless youre canadian i would argue youd always be seen as somewhat foreign unless you come here when you are still pretty young

>Why not?
Because that is how a nation works.

>You don't think any of them are wends or Scandinavian or Anglo in ethnicity, they were just white and born in Germany?
The assimilated ones were done over hundreds of years and have nothing about their ancestry left. It also took a lot of effort, such as wiping out other languages, forcing germanisation of names etc.

Exactly.

>If you become American are you no longer German?
Yes

Germans in America have been the biggest opponents of Germany throughout history and they don't retain their language.

Ok so then I'm German now because my ancestors came here from Germany in the 1910s

If you came here, you aren't American, you're Russian-American or German-American and you're not seen as one of us, fuck off if you think so lol

If I move to Russia and get a passport and official documentation, by law and international law, it would say I am russian. Cry more.

> You think every white person in Germany are Germans?

You think we define germans by "whiteness" alone whatever the fuck that is?
If the "whites" dont mix with germans they keep being identitified as nongermans usually.

Old world ethnicities have much differing concepts of what makes one a member of them.

Ah ok so a brown guy moves to Germany, learns German, and defends Germany. He's German now.

Nationality and ethnicity are two different things

If you're born in America, you're American. It's more of a concept than an ethnicity. Third generation Turks in Germany are still Turks, unless they married outside of their ethnicity.

Explodey Muslims are guilt ridden sinners looking for redemption.

Doesn't work like that. Picture related. You can have citizenship of Russia but it does not mean you are part of the nation. Russia has lots of nations in it, but only one nation is the Russian nation.

Americans will never understand this concept.

People can assimilate into America in a single lifetime, not the case for actual nations.

>Be German
>Get shot

I think you don't understand the concept of being American and the concept of being a member of one of the peoples of Europe. They are nothing alike.

Right

So regardless of what butthurt Germans say, I am ethnically German and my nationality is American

I love how they want to deny this so badly but no matter how well integrated a black person is in Germany they always disagree with them when they say they're German

Pick one

muslims that drink beer aren't any better m8

It's the attitude and culture is the big problem. It doesn't matter what religion this people take even if it's buddhism they would cause havoc in the new country. Some group of people have higher tendency to do bad than other because of culture and genetics.

Example,If Islam is so bad why haven't Indonesians bomb or mass exodus to Australia and New Zealand by now? they have 200 friggin million mudslimes and yet still not causing much problem to us.It all come back to what race they're.

Race does impact you more

Nope, doesn't matter how butthurt it makes you. If I get Russian citizenship, I am Russian.

i wasnt arguing that i was talking about someone moving here and 'becoming american'

Are you fucking dumb? If you're not Native American you're a foreigner by your logic. There have been people born in Russia who became naturalized Americans. They're considered American. A Russian couldn't go to Germany, get citizenship and then be German. He'd still be Russian.

Ich bin ein deutscher und ich bin Amerikanische.
J u st because English is my native tongue does not mean I didn't retain my ancestor's tongue too.

I can apply for citizenship is Deutschland and fit in the German population easily, then I can come home to America and be free again.

American is the best, man.
The German part is to add class.

Ok I get your point so you'll agree I'm German then? My ancestors came here from Germany two generations ago.

>ever understand this
You are right. You euros do not know what the fuck is nationality vs ethnicity.
They are Russian, but they are not ethnically Russian.

No, it does not. We even have separate words for Russian national member and Russian citizen.

>Americans actually think the rest of the world is like America

You prove it. America is not a real nation. It is just an idea.

Nation = Ethnicity. You getting a passport does not make you one of us.

Nope, if he went to Germany and got citizenship he'd be German. Either that, or I'm German because my ancestors are. Europeans think they can disagree with these and somehow be philosophically consistent

You are conflating Ethnicity and Nationhood. You are correct that when Achmed moves into your neighborhood that he isn't ethnically German, but once they get their citizenship documentation, they are legally "Citizens of Germany" entitled to all the same benefits and rules that you are.

>I am ethnically German and my nationality is American
The thing is, in America your ethnicity doesn't matter, because it's America. You are American, and then maybe white, black etc. There is no original American people, not even an official language. Meanwhile you cannot become an ethnic German, only your descendants over centuries of mixing, and that's the only thing that matters on the cultural level. People see your face and your name and not your passport.

Again, it doesn't matter how butthurt it makes you. If I get Russian citizenship, I can correctly say I am Russian, because I'm a Russian citizen.

Russian citizen is not the same thing as being Russian.

Its difficult.

An ethnicity usually sees itself as heritage+culture.
If you have both, you are considered a member without question.
If you have neither a foreigner.
If you have one (assimilation but no heritage/Heritage but no cultural upbringing) but not the other one your inclusion into the group often depends on goodwill or your ability to blend in so people just dont give a shit about the "missing half" which usually gets filled up if you mix with a native-getting heritage, or your offspring who has heritage gets the cultural upbringing.

Then there are some hybrid concepts.
We call turks now often "turk-germans".
Meaning we dont see them as germans per se, but as turks who adopted enough german customs to transform into an own subgroup/neighbooring ethnicity which is part of the nation.
(Just the way germans in russia for example were called wolga-germans but not russians only.)

means he was a turk

But ethnicity doesn't matter in Germany either. It's pretty clear in fact that acknowledging ethnicity in Germany is culturally taboo.

which means he meant to say "I am a Greek."

>they are legally "Citizens of Germany" entitled to all the same benefits and rules that you are.
yes, they are, but culturall they are not accepted as German by the average German. It's a problem for a lot of foreigners who actually want to fit it, but the tribal way and the concept of being blood related is still very deeply ingrained in Germany.

Lol so now ethnicity doesn't matter and it's about citizenship? Ok, every black person with German citizenship is German.

Europeans are fucking retarded and can never seem to understand the difference between nationality and ethnicity. Pick one, either blacks in Germany are black, or ethnic Germans in America are German. You can't disagree with both of these. You have no idea what the fuck is in your blood, but you were born in Germany and your parents were German so that's all you need to know, but the blacks that have been there longer than you? Nope!

Me and him are saying that, just in a way that means you may not be Russian in blood, BUT LEGALLY, and by name, you are Russian in nationality, but by taking in that is your country.

which means he's albanian

Are you fucking retarded or just too dumb to read? Maybe both.

Has the German state failed?

If you are not Russian by blood then you are not Russian. Blood makes you Russian. Citizenship is not the same thing as being Russian.

What is being Russian then? There are Asian Russians, russkiye people, Tatars, there are ethnically Jewish Russians, there are Mongolian russians. What makes a Russian other than citizenship? Your country could be said to be just as diverse as ours, is it just the white ones?

Judging by the comments, easily.

got news for you chief, there isn't an original german people either

America used to be just a idea.
A idea shared by many people, this idea was so good over three hundred million people decided to base their live around it which effectively made it a nation by default

By your logic Niemcy is just a idea because I can apply for citizenship there

>f you have one (assimilation but no heritage/Heritage but no cultural upbringing) but not the other one your inclusion into the group often depends on goodwill or your ability to blend in so people just dont give a shit about the "missing half" which usually gets filled up if you mix with a native-getting heritage, or your offspring who has heritage gets the cultural upbringing.
Yeah. And the goodwill of the group usually depends on the economic status of the group. A bad recession for example, could turn the Turk-Germans into 'Turk scum' and the Indonesian-Netherlanders into 'Brown trash'. Risky stuff.

You realize you aren't 100% German right? You realize your ancestors fucked people from all over Europe and you're a mix of every nation around you? Slav blood, Iberian blood, Anglo blood, you likely have it all in you. Why do Germans think they're some pure blooded race and not mutts just like Americans? We're a mix of every European ethnicity just like you

Or did Europeans for thousands of years only fuck each other based on the borders in 2016?

>muh heritage

The English language lacks a term, in German you can say Russe - ethnic Russian, and Russländer - citizen of whatever ethnic minority there is, though usually we just call them all Russe or by their ethnicity.

>What is being Russian then?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians

At least read a wiki page before you ask stupid questions.

>There are Asian Russians, russkiye people, Tatars, there are ethnically Jewish Russians, there are Mongolian russians.
They just have citizenship. They are not Russians.

>What makes a Russian other than citizenship?
Russian blood.

>is it just the white ones?
No, there are plenty of other white nations in Russia that are not Russian.

>Blood makes you Russian

You think you're 100% Russian? You don't think you have ancestors from other places? If you do, how can you claim to be Russian if you don't have only Russian blood?

Is a 100% Russian American more Russian than you if you have German blood in you? Blood makes you Russian right?

Its really a shitty situation.
Deep down we are indeed tribalistic as fuck, but do not use any of its benefits like the immigrant minorities with their connections and big fammilys do.
We mostly use it as a brand for who is and who is not+who must be pc to what degree.

>They are not Russians

And yet since antiquity they've been a part of Russia?

This is the most hilarious game of mental gymnastics, when you confuse a euro with things like ethnicity, nationality, and the fact that basically everybody on this planet is a mutt

>b-but I'm pure blooded!!!

Hahahahahaha

>You realize you aren't 100% German right?
You realize this is completely irrelevant?
Meanwhile in America I can become an American over night

It's not some fucking philosophical argument you dipshit. America is a nation of colonists whereas old world countries are nations of ethnicities. Some papers don't change your ethnicity so you can't be part of old world nations just because you have a passport. You can for America because everyone's a foreigner. Your ancestors chose to be American so you're American regardless of muh heritage. You can't choose to become German in your lifetime unless you really put in the effort, lose any accent, assimilate into the culture, and look the part facial feature and skin tone wise. I doubt that'll happen because the German you wrote was shit tier, you're American, deal with it.

In English they call me kraut because I am a German
You just don't understand....

>You think you're 100% Russian?
No, but I have enough Russian to be Russian. Descent is what is needed.

>Is a 100% Russian American more Russian than you if you have German blood in you?
No, because you need culture + blood.

>Blood makes you Russian right?
Russian blood + Russian culture.

>And yet since antiquity they've been a part of Russia?
Russia was not around in antiquity, dumb American.

>b-but I'm pure blooded!!!
Never claimed this. Dumb American.

>Overnight

It's a decade long process

Nobody would consider you American with a gay German accent

>AH I LAV SAUSAGE VUNDERBAR LEIDERHOSEN

Is it irrelevant? Ok, good, then a half Somalian half German who has been in Germany for multiple generations is just as German as you

>Meanwhile in America I can become an American over night

If you actually believe you'll be accepted like that I want you to move here

You'll be a novelty to people for years before they become accustomed to you as normal, but please do

Who will play him in the autobiography?

>Slav blood, Iberian blood, Anglo blood, you likely have it all in you.
I think Americans overestimate the amount of mixing the average European peasant family lines did. A lot of people here can trace their heritage back thanks to church registers and it's highly unlikely that 15 different nations passed through buttfuck nowhere village in the province and spread their genes.

Some white guy probably

>are nations of ethnicities

What ethnicities? Did people only fuck based on 2016 borders or not? Do you actually think basically every single European isn't a mutt?

If I can't be German, why can a Somalian in Germany be Somalian? They're Somalian by blood, just like I'm German by blood

You can disagree with this all you want, it doesn't matter, you're wrong and retarded

>half Somalian half German who has been in Germany for multiple generations

That doesn't make any sense

>Ok, good, then a half Somalian half German who has been in Germany for multiple generations is just as German as you
No, because if you can be told apart, then you are not part of it yet. If I can look at you, and see you are mixed race, I know you are not one of us. That is why becoming part of a European nation takes hundreds of years, even for other Europeans, and often through a deliberate policy of government to turn people into another nation.

Ah so now it's Russian blood + Russian culture, so Tatars aren't Russian?

Once again, I love how confused euros get when you tell them nationality and ethnicity are two different things

And if you're not pure blooded Russian, you aren't Russian. Russian is culture + blood. You're a mutt, but you're a Russian citizen.

Are you a fucking retard?

A person whose parents are German and Somalian, where the German side has lived in Germany for generations

Because a massive number of Americans are descendants of German immigrants, you're just a normal American.

Ah ok, I look white and fairly Eastern European. Looks like if I learn Russian and get citizenship, I'm just as Russian as you :^)

>wait let me move the goalposts again

>this thread
What the fuck
Let's say I want to become Russian/German/Polish, what do I have to do?

>germany
>minority turks
>literally 0 bombing or shooting or any terrorist attack in 40 years
meanwhile germans bombed turks more than twice and formed underground organizations to shoot them

its easy to see who is terrorist. even this iran guy became terrorist because he was brainwashed by germans and thinks he is german

Right, a normal American who is ethnically German, just like a massive number of Americans.

Ethnicity doesn't fucking disappear when you leave your home country, you retard

>I look white and fairly Eastern European. Looks like if I learn Russian and get citizenship, I'm just as Russian as you :^)
You have no blood, and no culture. So no, you're not and could never be Russian. We have had Germans here for hundreds of years, and they are not Russians yet, you can't just walk in and think you are a Russian. It does not work like that.

Talking to Americans on this is like talking to a wall.

Get citizenship

Ethnically? Nothing, you're stuck with that, obviously

your name will be put to test cockroach, we have yet to see if you shitskins can handle nukes, and from what we see in usa and europe, people are more and more willing to vote for memesters who might legit glass shitholestans

>risky stuff

On a collective level.
As an individual without a large group of other foreigners who came in a large batch at once to lump you into as a threat you should be fine.
With some groups it can work out, I cannot remember us shoaing frisians and there is some really diverse romanian coastal strip were people got along somehow.
Albeit, a look to south america should show that even in countries were the sense of belonging old ethnicitys has been largely dissolved, people still organize in groups and cartells in the poor places, making life hell for each other and use slaughter in not any less savage ways as the one inspired by good old tribal warfare.

But like you said, you don't have blood either. What if I have more Russian blood in me than you?

I guess neither of us are Russian, hmm

>so Tatars aren't Russian?
No, they are Tatars.

>I love how confused euros get when you tell them nationality and ethnicity are two different things
Because they are not in Europe. Your nation is the same as your ethnicity. The Tatar nation is simply a nation inside the Russian state. States in Europe are based on ethnic groups.

>And if you're not pure blooded Russian, you aren't Russian
Yes, I am. Dumb American.

>rape baby wet dreams

>Are you a fucking retard?
Are you? A half Somali is a a mutt and not a German, half blacks can never be accepted as proper German. Now if his descendants intermarry with Germans and in 200 years his name has been changed and basically every single one of his descendants has intermarried with Germans, then yes, the DESCENDANTS would be considered German.

That's the whole point, you cannot assimiliated in your lifetime, only your descendants. The closer you are to the indigenous culture the faster it goes. If your family stays black and Muslism for 200 years it'll never happen.

>you don't have blood either
Yes, I do. Both my parents are Russian. All my grandparents are Russian. All my great grandparents are Russian, and so on.

God, you are really stupid.

Be born one.