>With wages across Asia rising, Japan is gradually losing its appeal as a destination for foreign workers.
>The number of foreign workers in Japan is on track to top 1 million by the end of this year, but this trend may not last, even if the country adopts a more welcoming immigration policy.
asia.nikkei.com
No memes, how is Japan going to take care of its rapidly dying population when there are no young people left in the country? Are they going to use robots?
Where are those foreign workers from?
Mainly from other Asian countries like China and SEA countries
No one knows. I guess they don't like to think that much about it.
>Are they going to use robots?
Ofc, they are. It is fokin Japan, ya know
One word: robots
Koreans have been there for a long time (since the WWII) and Brazilians are mostly ethic Japanese who returned to their old homeland.
Japanese are honourable, old people will just off themselves.
>only koreans are decreasing
Japan will split island in parts. Worker parts where they will let immigrants to work and living part for Nippons
>Brazilians are mostly ethic Japanese who returned to their old homeland.
Same with Peruvians
>that steadily increasing Pakistani population
Yeah, they're intermarrying and assimilating.
If the Zainichi get naturalized, they're no longer listed as foreign residents.
>north korea 33,939
wat
For comparison
2015
South Korea Top 5 Foreign locations
Total, 1,796,618
China 898,654
(Illegal) 207,778
U.S, 136,663
Vietnam, 129,973
(Others) 81,600
Philippines 53,538
For reference Japan is 6th at 49,152 and highest other Western countries are Canada (24k) Aus (12.4k) and UK (7.3k)
So SK has more Chinese, illegals and for some reason a tonne more Americans
I wonder how they got out.
most of american is US army :D
Overall I find this article full of shit.
So the reality of the situation is that the foreign worker numbers in Japan are increasing year by year. So the conclusion drawn from that is that Japan is losing its appeal?
Not only that but if you look at the demographics, there has been a brief uptick in Chinese but generally a decline, also a decline in Koreans.
U.S residents increase each year, Taiwanese increasing largely along with lots of central and south east Asia.
France increase trend, Germany Increase Trend, Anglosphere increase trend, Spain and Italy increase trend.
So apparently the increase in OECD immigration that has been consistent in Japan.
The key in the article is that Taiwan and South Korea are gaining, that makes competition right? It doesn't mean that Japan is going to "lose its appeal" rather its a choice. The China one is tricky but China is a shitty place to live in comparison to the high developed East-Asian countries its also a shitty place to raise a family and more difficult to settle and live in let alone the more likely to fuck with you government.
interesting how unattractive and poor japan and south korea are to western professionals. they just don't care to immigrate there
>how is Japan going to take care of its rapidly dying population when there are no young people left in the country?
If only there was a really powerful race of caretakers they could invite to their country they could solve this problem....
I was always under the impression that they didn't move there because it was extremely difficult to do so.
what did he mean by this?
That is what confuses me, Japan is the largest station for U.S. troops but SK has more registered Americans.
I'm somewhat assuming at this point that Japan doesn't count the U.S. troops in its foreigner statistics while South Korea does? There's got to be more Americans in total in Japan than SK surely..
that is correct. Japan doesn't count the U.S. troops. Not sure about South Korea though.
Large distance and linguistic and cultural barriers more likely, far harder to find options there as the real reasons. I'm sure there are plenty of westerners who would take an opportunity if they could find it
wages are worse, less holidays, longer work day, stupid work culture, difficult language, tedious bureaucracy and so on..
Then I'll go work for anime when they really need foreign labour and be hailed as a hiro for my doryoku, ALL RIGHT desu yo!
actually they're easier to become citizen in than basically all western countries, fact is they're just unattractive countries unless you have some emotional attachments to them like weebs or patriotism for the natives
yes weebs and other aspergers
First is the meme that Japan is solely in a boat here. Germany and Italy for example have really old populations also and countries like Taiwan, China, SK, the aforementioned and places like Spain also have horrendous birth rates. Japan isn't last in fertility in Asia let alone the world. In terms of actual population I think the 80m projections etc are fear based and an 100-110 region is more likely (probably with a 100% increase in foreign workers)
In terms of workforce they will still be 2nd/3rd in the OECD even after a demographic shift so with some easing from technology it might not be too bad. I wouldn't be surprised if some sort of strict immigration drive is brought in before 2025 or either a "sharing" of professionals with EU/Anglosphere states for mutual higher level business benefit (try and break Japans lack of internationalised corps so as to perform better globally) or for other non-Chinese Asians to work in rural areas.
The main thing to consider though is that this doesn't always mean a bad thing, places like Tokyo and Kyoto-Osaka-Kobe are not dramatically effected by this and a youth drain to the cities is always in place which basically means all non-central areas suffer. In terms of actual outlook this is potentially an easier fix (It would be more of a problem if the big cities were losing their edge and power than lots of villages right). Secondly Japan maintains a very high level of employment and also maintains its other indicators well and in theory with population maturing the quality of life can actually improve rather than drop. So if you hope for a few more births a year, some skilled immigrants and better tech Japan can be completely fine or even better than it was in the past despite these issues.
Becoming a citizen is far different to wanting to work somewhere.
The EU by fact makes it far easier to work in other nearby states. Even if the UK fully leaves it is still more attractive for me to work in somewhere like Italy than say Japan/Korea simply because of the language, the culture and proximity to my family even though I've been to both and Japan/Korea were cooler places.
Its pretty clear when you look at places outside of the EU
for Australians SK/Japan are more attractive than France for example.
In New Zealand SK/Japan are more popular than the main EU countries and in Canada it is same for many also.
So no there are clearly other factors in play but then you are just baiting anyway though funny enough that you say this but for most non-EU developed countries there is probably a greater amount in Japan/Korea/Taiwan etc than there are in Finland p/capita. (probably too much autism?)
>Its pretty clear when you look at places outside of the EU
for Australians SK/Japan are more attractive than France for example.
In New Zealand SK/Japan are more popular than the main EU countries and in Canada it is same for many also.
>So no there are clearly other factors in play but then you are just baiting anyway though funny enough that you say this but for most non-EU developed countries there is probably a greater amount in Japan/Korea/Taiwan etc than there are in Finland p/capita. (probably too much autism?)
What? You're not British, are you? Where are you from, if I may ask?
I am half i grew up in France and work here now, my phone typing is poor.
Sorry, that was pretty rude of me.
Japenese demographics are definitely a time-bomb though. They've got a record drop in population this year.
japantimes.co.jp
>Pakistan
>India
>Bangladesh
>mfw we are Japan's greatest ally and they've only let 52k of us in
>mfw they let almost as many shit skins as Americans in
Use your fucking brain.
>GDP rising elsewhere faster than Japan
>wages rising faster elsewhere than in Japan
>therefore less pull factor to Japan from higher wages
>eventually leads to fewer immigrants relative to the other nations
You seem to not understand that Japan is naturally losing 400,000 a year and this rate will accelerate until 2040 or so.
They have to bring in at least 400,000 foreigners a year to fix that trend.
At current rates it's only rising 100,000 a year, and that's if Japan's economy doesn't shit itself like in 1990 or 2008 again.
Therefore at a rate of -350,000 peoplea year (as is estimated), Japan will have 100 million in 2050.
ROBOTS! Japan leads the world in robotics. No worries.
IMMIGRANTS! If the previous doesn't work out, Japan is the best country in the world by almost any metric, technologically basically 10 years ahead of the most modern white countries. Japan could have every educated professional in the world if it just wanted. Imagine how Africans feel about immigrating to Europe. Now amplify that by 10 for Japan.
ANIME! Robotics will make anime real so they wont even need people when they can make perfect people.
CLONING! Japanese don't have sex because they're enlightened asexual stoics. However with cloning they could make as many Japanese as they wanted. Exiting developments in the future.
LONGEVITY! Japanese live the longest. Asians age slower. Women in their 50s look like they're still 20. They could simply up the retirement age.
There's so simply so many solutions!
why are so much brazilians?
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Lots of immigration to Japan from south east Asia is from much poorer countries i doubt there is anything to demonstrate that marginal pay differences effect these people.
For OECD states and multinational employees the GDP/Wage situation is rather irrelevant also.
The only reasonable decline is a flow-out of Chinese/South Koreans as their own countries become more appealing however there are perfectly valid reasons outside of money as to why these two would choose not to.