What happens here?

What happens here?

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region of peace

big oil in the north
and a proper silk road station/city to the turkics on the left in xinjiang
big desert in the middle

muslims, nomad life and han migrants.

Awful pollution, lots of sand, lots of mining and drilling, silk road shit, shitty weather.

no pollution there western road dog

a lot of stabbing

Not much happens left of this line, except some angry munks

Kashgar, tashkurgan, xinjiang in general

It's pretty amazing to see desu, i want to go back there again

It has some of the worst pollution in all of China m8

alisonbate.ca/2009/01/14/winter-in-the-worlds-most-polluted-city/
aqicn.org/city/wulumuqi/
world.time.com/2013/03/12/china-a-river-of-pigs-and-5-other-environmental-nightmares/slide/urumqi/

It was a Tocharian kingdom, then it filled up with Turks, and now occupied by Chinese colonists. Kinda sad because the last thing the world needs is more chinks.

pure turkish culture
never change cockroach kebab

Ive been there
took a bus right through the center of the taklimakan in the middle of the day

there must be still thousands of millions of people living there kek

hey did you go in 2007? did you meet a random dude on the train and then travel around turpan together and stay in the basement of a luxury hotel?

did you by chance hire a taxi and drive around for the day?

Uhh no man. But you seemed to have an awesome af time with the dude you met. Wish i could have joined you guys on that adventure

6% of a billion is 60 million so yeah a shitload of people still live there

fugg
should have known there was more than one singaporean who's been there
worth a shot though, good times for sure

That's still over eighty one million people. When you take into consideration the kind of geography western China has that's still a lot of people.

Where did you guys visit? Urumuqi/kashgar/tashkurgan?

I took a train from Dunhuang to Turpan and when I got off the train I teamed up with a german and a Singaporean who had been traveling for a while, we went and got some beds in the hotel basement, got breakfast, hired a taxi and drove around. then at the end of the day we rented bikes and rode around. I split up with them after that day only, as I was in a rush, but later went to Urumqi, took a bus to Hotan, then went to Khargilik, kashgar and spent the night in a yurt on lake Kala Kule before heading back to Kashgar and on to Osh. How about you?

Chinese national who served in Xinjiang for 7 years. If you want to know of this place something feel free to ask. 我英语说得不太流利。

Holy shit that's a lot of places! I mostly stayed at a really small village at Targharma Valley, we were there to help build a small museum for the village. We stayed with the family, it was an amazing experience.

when did you stop serving there?
I see you got paid well since you moved to where, Pakuranga? Howick?

I left in 2012. My wife got a job at the Chinese embassy in Wellington. I moved here with her and our children.

I heard that Xinjiang has the hottest Chinese girls. Is that true?

No. There are too many Uyghur girls. They look a lot like Malaysian Chinese, not very attractive. The Han Chinese who move to Xinjiang are mostly poor too, because they go there for the benefits government offer. So they too look not very good.

Why is there so many han chinese people in kashgar? Is it a recent phenomenon?

为什么喀什等有着么多汉人? 是不是最近发生的事情 (我的华语不大顺,请原谅)?

chang please stop coming here, there are enough of you as it is
at the very least don't just concentrate around auckland

Actually i found some of the uyghur girls really attractive. Then again, i find malay girls attractive. I think i like the tanned skin/hazel eyes look

>Uighurstan has the hottest girls
The Chinese are sending the trash of their society to colonize the occupied eastern territories. It doesn't just apply to the eastern territories but other places like Canada and Australia.

>Why is there so many han chinese people in kashgar? Is it a recent phenomenon?

Is it not obvious? Government don't want Xinjiang to split, so they are culturally genociding Uyghurs by having lots of Han Chinese move there. This has caused a lot of friction and so it is by far the most policed province, even more than Tibet, security check points everywhere. Poor Han Chinese from other provinces can get a lot of financial aid for moving to Xinjiang and having children.

你的汉语很好,你是外国人吗?

Stop electing politicians who sell your country out then, cuck.

If Mao didn't won, this would've been a Soviet Republic.

Religion of peace.

Soon to be region of pieces.

jews like key find their way in no matter what
but i hope you've westernized your kids because when shit goes down minorities are gonna be the first to go

Was it hot?

Well your adventure in altruism must certainly have had a stunning backdrop, that couldn't have hurt the experience. I didn't make it down the valley that far but next year I'm planning to come up from Pakistan. I'd like to try to cross the border to Tajikistan from the crossing between the Karakoram and Pamir highways. Something about it, that area, the beauty of the landscape has a visceral effect.

If shit "goes down" you should be deporting the polynesians and south east asian trash. Chinese are almost always law abiding and rich. There's a reason we are hated across south east asia, Chinese out perform every ethnic group.

What would you prefer late at night, to walk past a group of 10 polynesian men, or chinese men?

Because i've done research and realised that there were many han chinese in xinjiang even in ancient past. But i think the majority of han chinese probably came in during the 1950s because of communist policy to irrigate and transform the west into farmland. Thanks for the info


我是新加坡华人啊,可算是外国人

Looks like Mexico

Malaysian Chinese?
So, Fujian ren? Hainanese?

Did you guys do raids and stuff on terrorist meet-ups, or mainly just keeping guard over the place?

Also the fact it is one of the least densely populated places on earth. Center of Asia and all.

Shut the fuck up man.
To actually move here as a foreigner you gotta either be rich, or study here (aka be rich cuase our uni's charge a good 20k per semester to foreigners).
Unless your a coconut ofc, then you can get in easy as.
Oh, but rich kiwi's cant go retire in Samoa though, its a one way kinda deal.
Pick your battles m8.

Chinese desu baka senpai

Probably 25% of the current Han are from the Tang Empire and before. 75% are more recent.

Before the mainland Chinese people came there were no murders, and meth wasn't even a thing. You also cause a fuckton of traffic accidents.

By Malaysian Chinese I mean people with Chinese ancestry, but slightly mixed race. Maybe 1 or 2 non-Chinese grandparent.

Most of work was security check points, searching vehicles coming into province. We once had to escort a BBC reporter for a few week also. I can not speak of raids because I am still a Chinese national and cannot speak about this publicly, sorry.

>Before the mainland Chinese people came there were no murders, and meth wasn't even a thing.

Desert and allah akbar.

kill yourselves

7 years?

My god. You did good work for China.

I was in Afghanistan for our war. It was... not good work.

Do you guys keep track of all the tourists and foreigners in the area too? When I went there I felt like I just breezed right in on the local bus to Hotan. But then once I got there this one taxi driver wouldn't leave me alone. He stayed with me just chatting and driving me around from the time the desert bus dropped me off (4am) until I could catch the first minibus to Khargilik.

The dude smoked hashish with me, like out in the open space, like no big deal. He was an uyghur dude and he had like a gang of friends hanging out by this late-night noodle seller. Whole gang then piles into the car with me in the front seat and to be honest with you I was scared for my life. But I just tell to myself "this is just an undercover police and his unit and I am going to be fine". After 2 mins I probably looked scared as fuck I just said 'take me to the bus station' and the guys dropped me off straight away. I gave them 20 kwai and they looked at me shocked then I grabbed my bag and ran inside.

Then... A week later or so, who do I see? Same guy in Kashgar bus station, asking me if I have hashish...

Was that guy from the PSB? An Uyghur PSB?

There was also another time a random uyghur guy started chatting to me at an internet cafe in Urumqi. He spoke perfect English and I asked him very direct questions like 'do you like the Han Chinese here? what do you think about this/that' and his answers are like, thank god they came here and civilized this shit hole, they pour money here, economy is great, life is good, I speak fluent chinese!' and only ever said positive stuff. He invited me to hang out with him the next day but as usual I'm scared shitless of Muslims so I never called him.

I agree. It's actually a desolate wasteland, but the enormity and the hostility of the landscape is both horrifying and awe-inspiring. I fell in love with that place over the month i spent in the little hamlet there

The original Turkland.

Pretty scary experience senpai. I had government minders taking care of our group so we were left unmolested. The worst that happened to us was that we were overcharged on those lamb dumplings

Tibet 2.0 except nobody knows about it. Filthy chinks are flooding the place with Han Chinese. Poor Ugyhurs.

The Chinese government has a vested interest in keeping foreigners in the area safe.

You probably encountered an agent who was making sure the tourists were safe.

So yes, you probably were tracked. But not extensively.

>original

Lmao does Viet butthurt ever stop?

You guys are the Poland of Asia.

Damn they look yummy

>article from 2003
investigatemagazine.com/oct03meth.htm
>China and New Zealand have a history of education links and exchanges, including bilateral scholarship programmes and academic cooperation. There was a dramatic expansion in student flows and other engagement in the late 1990s. Until 1998, a New Zealand quota system permitted only 100 Chinese students per year to study in New Zealand. The removal of this restriction coincided with greater financial and social freedoms for Chinese citizens to study overseas and by 2002 there were over 30,000 Chinese students in New Zealand, and, in 2003/2004, nearly 65,000 mainland Chinese student applied for visas to study in New Zealand. China remains by far New Zealand’s most significant source of foreign students. Delivery of New Zealand education services in China through joint programme arrangements is increasing. The appointment of a New Zealand education counsellor in Beijing, regular high-level meetings, are all playing a role in this effort to broaden and raise the level of education engagement with China.[13]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China–New_Zealand_relations

>pic related
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China–New_Zealand_relations

Another memepost by a leaf.

Do you actually read any news outside whatever Western liberal paper you find as the flavor of the week?

>The original Turkland.
>Butthurt
Not that guy, but it makes me question how it is butthurt and how our history like Poland.

He's most likely a sinophile

Wow holy fuck this is such bait.

NZ murder rates the last 16 years are lower than they were in 1960-1990.

And you're bait article with no credibility is blaming meth on Chinese?
What the fuck? You are saying meth wasn't in NZ before the Chinese came?

First of all, Chinese have been in NZ since the 18th century.
Second, meth was heavily used in NZ before 1990.
Third, you're a shitposting faggot.

Could I have a credible source stating that Xinjiang is the original homeland of the Turks?

Because Xinjiang and the Uyghurs are literally the original GENOCIDERS of the ORIGINAL inhabitants of Xinjiang.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzungar_people

So that guy a Chinaman?
That explains why the sudden "butthurt".

Butthurt != asking for sources when an assravaged Viet Commie makes a bullshit claim

>Americans will never forget being destroyed by Vietnam

I never say it's original turkland because i say that i not that guy.
I just question the sudden "butthurt".
>Hey, I'm a Viet, i say that is original Turkland
>Hey fuck you i'm sinophile, you butthurt, and you just a second poland.
That literally don't make any sense.

No sinophile means he like China and Chinese culture. Otherwise there is no reason for a non Chinese to get so butthurt at your post

wow calm down man
I'm just saying that the meth epidemic didn't happen until the pure meth started arriving from China
facts are facts, don't have a baby
en.wikinews.org/wiki/Dead_body_found_in_suitcase_floating_in_Auckland_harbour
newshub.co.nz/politics/1b-of-meth-stopped-at-nz-border-2013081413

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples#History

Turks originated in Western Mongolia near the Altay Mountains.

Not Xinjiang. They were imported by the Chinese emperors in the 600's and 1800's to remove unruly ethnic groups (Dzhugars, etc.)

They are not native to Xinjiang in an ancient sense. Then again, they have been there for about 1400 years.
But so have the Han Chinese.

yeah he definitely is, here is he responding to allegations that China is the cause of most of NZ's crime (which is true if you consider that meth has caused a huge spike in crime):

I told you that I don't say that is the original Turkland.
That is the other Vietnamese guy.
Oh right.
Remember some dude with Chinese girlfriend get brainwashed by the Chinese girlfriend, maybe this guy.
But this guy kinda have "low intelligence" than him so i get confused.

>The original Turkland.

This was the claim made. Unless suddenly two Viets popped up in the same thread in 2 minutes, I am assuming it is you responding to my post asking for sources.

Until you provide them, you're just a shitposter.

I provided mineYou made two specific claims here>Before the mainland Chinese people came there were no murders, and meth wasn't even a thing.

Now back them the fuck up. Those are anecdotes, and one doesn't even link to Chinese people.

>That is the other Vietnamese guy.
dont be such a pussy

I told all of you that first Vietnamese is poster is not me.
All those sudden man.
All those sudden.

I'm the first Viet poster here, i made the claim that Xinjiang is the original Turkland, that is my only post.

But then again, you guys won't believe me.

When two rare flags post for the first time in a thread within two minutes of each other and into the same post thread, I get confused. Apologies.

I have no gripe with you.
To answer your question
>but it makes me question how it is butthurt
Because it is a blatant lie meant to be anti-Chinese.
>and how our history like Poland.
Occupied by multiple nations for multiple centuries. Still assravaged about wars that ended decades ago.

Could you back up your claim?
>The original Turk Homeland

>China is New Zealand's primary source of methamphetamine precursors
before china was the primary source of meth, shipped by chinese to chinese. before they came, that wouldnt have happened. use your brain.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Xiao_Zhen

Also, I'm white.

I independently study Chinese history on wikipedia for fun. I'm actually extremely anti-Communist and from Texas. I don't know Chinese.

But I also get triggered by blatant lies and memes. I hate them and so Sup Forums isn't the place for me. I usually post on /his/.

Why are you in NZ

See, I told all of you, I just the guy ask for the sudden, and the post in only 4s different so no way I can post it without wait for about 1 minutes, i can't suddent just in 4s man.

Could I have a credible source agreeing with your claims
>Before the mainland Chinese people came there were no murders, and meth wasn't even a thing.

You sound like Donald Trump.

All your "sources" have been uncredible, not linked to Chinese, or anecdotes.

Surely someone so well-versed in this area that he can make massive claims can also back up his claims with proper sources?

>But I also get triggered by blatant lies and memes.
its only a lie or a meme if you are an autist shut-in with no context outside of your books with which to understand how the world actually works

You do see why I was confused, right?
The second Viet responded to my response to the first Viet outside the 1 minute post limit. Therefore I assumed you were the same Viet.

My beef isn't with you. It's with this posterHe still hasn't backed up his claim.

OOOOH ya got me EXAGGERATING real life facts
There was no meth epidemic before pure meth from China arrived in NZ. Read the articles.

>You sound like Donald Trump.
you sound like a faggot with no friends

>massive claims
And the murders are more heinous now than ever before
prove me wrong

Wow great shitpost user!

In the meantime you should be finding a source for this claim
>Before the mainland Chinese people came to New Zealand there were no murders, and meth wasn't even a thing.

>EXAGGERATING

You mean blatantly lying.

>facts
Which you haven't backed up with a credible source.

>prove me wrong
You don't understand how the burden of evidence works, do you?

I've only asked for a credible source for your claims. I've made no claims myself.

You're barking up the wrong tree, Sup Forumsposters arent known for their logical reasoning. Would be fun to discuss western China and shit like the Dzungar genocide on /his/ tho

This is why I consider Viets as the Poles of Asia.

I ask for a credible source and I get called a Chink or Butthurt.

Just like Russians get called Vatniks or PROOFS.

sichuan earthquake best day of my life

hey
are you going to acknowledge that the meth epidemic started in China or what?
stuff.co.nz/national/81120820/New-Zealands-coastline-is-an-open-go-for-the-global-methamphetamine-trade

now all that's left is the murder claim, which I merely stated because there had never been a case of a dead body chopped up in a suitcase floating in the harbor before. My bad.

I read somewhere that there were some ancient Turkic tribes in Xinjiang and Mongolia. But then they went to Turkey and become the Turks today.

Ok i not the first poster, now it's about the "sudden" butthurt thing.
>but it makes me question how it is butthurt
>Because it is a blatant lie meant to be anti-Chinese.
In case it's a blatant lie, but it's not unrelated to country so it more like a troll than bother, because even it's wrong, it's not really affecting anything except harm the related country. (Vietnam surely unrelated to this turkland claim)
>And how our history like Poland.
>Occupied by multiple nations for multiple centuries. Still assravaged about wars that ended decades ago.
Only French occupied us so it's not mutiple nations.
And we still expand when being occupied, even more that we abandon the main language that is Mandarin which is the absolutely good thing, which is spoken by Vietnamese before get occupied by France.
The Vietnam War are between South Vietnam And North Vietnam, which get supported by 2 kind of ideology.
Except you mean get supported = occupied.
North Vietnam get occupied by Russia, and South Vietnam get occupied by USA if follow that logic.
So you see that why don't see any sense with the "sudden butthurt" and Poland.

ok it was a blatant lie. allow me to correct myself.

>China is the source of NZ's meth epidemic and some of the most heinous murders in NZ history

all the sources are in this thread. enjoy.

How is this a source for Chinese bringing Meth to NZ?

>now all that's left is the murder claim
Half your fucking claim which you now admit was a lie.

Also if you even say about that Vietnamese still butthurt about USA.
See this poll.
We like them than their long allies.

Why do we not have some sort of military agreement with fucking Vietnam yet? Other than their government type, I really don't understand why we shouldn't be allies in all honesty