I hate this fucking shit

Why does every normie use this fucking shit?
It doesn't even have a good desktop client.
And the worst: it's proprietary

>Why
They do it because their friends do it. The only way to make them stop is to refuse to use it: to boycott it.

It just works faggot

what is this
I will try this

>it just works
>is easy to use
>free calls
i wonder

No opt-in for groups (chat). Like wtf. Explain to me Whatsapp.

Everyone uses it, stop being autistic.

The problem is you. Why are you communicating with normalfags?

Botnet

>can send and receive text and voice messages
I don't see the problem here

>And the worst: it's proprietary
What? Normies don't use software that isn't proprietary. You shouldn't be surprised

Consensus and no alternative maintained against it
riot is good but no one on it and normies have a hard time just creating a pseudo so...

It's not supposed to be used on a desktop, the "desktop" version just mirrors your phone.

>everyone uses
>no one talking to me

Funny thing, I just finished implementing my own communication platform using the Nim programming language. Its features include great networking capability and being able to natively compile for any platform.

Please tell me the source of that gif. Is there porn?

>facebook botnet
you shouldn't expect 3rd world people to care about why not to use it

people use it because they have something to hide

>better than SMS
>group chat
>ez file and image sharing
>giphy integration

Viber, Line, Messenger etc... they don't have that?

>hey guys, lets just coordinate over multiple different services instead of using one app.
Your autism is showing

Be the change you want to see.
You could, for example, figure out an efficient way of spamming thousands of groups with millions of users to force an opt-in setting.

Get some friends, it helps.

I have a lot of friends on Sup Forums.

Well, there goes the fucking thread.
Include me in the screenshot for /r/Sup Forums.

>/r/Sup Forums
Rude.

It's the iMessage of Android, and it used to be less botnetty before FB bought it.

...

Doesn't whatsapp support sending text messages? They can still send and receive shit you don't have to use it.

Just like I can still l-like you.

meh. considering it's the most used messaging app in the world, it's okay. Would be nice if it was independent, but whatever.

Telegram has all this and more, client is foss and backend will hopefully become foss, it has better security, snapchat-like destroying media, tg bots are very useful, flexible and standalone. Group options are great and it works better, whatsapp drops connection randomly every now and then. I already asked most of my friends to move over to tg and some of them ditched whatsapp completely.

why not signal

the desktop client depends on chrome

>shilling this russian botnet with shitty opt-in encryption that only works for 1on1 chats
>also, still requires your phone number
*2 rubles have been added to your account*

do you have a smartphone, and if yes, why give a fuck about the desktop client?

You have 1, (You)

Well, at least it's better than SMS, so that's an improvement.

But yeah, it's not a proper IM/Skype replacement. Wire comes much closer to that:
>always encrypted
>web and desktop client
>doesn't require phone number

Why don't you makes something better that everyone wants to use then?

I assume every IM is botnet to you.
Sure why not, I haven't tried signal and tg has now stable user base, no one here uses signal. Im happy with tg, I use personal cloud and few bots on regular basis.

>And the worst: it's proprietary
And? What does that hav to do with how good the program is?

>It was one of the first chat apps that encompassed everything in it and used your cellphone number to id instead of email.
>Desktop client b is easy to use and mirrors phone.
>Used to be premium but now free.

Of course there are slightly better options, but not better enough to make people switch en masse.

I liked hangouts and duo. Can't convince anyone to use them over WhatsApp and Skype.

> Skype
KYS.

Normies are aight

The only bad thing about skype is that it reveals your IP too easily. But if you are not a pedo or a criminal in general you shouldn't worry about it.
It twerks.

How is it a botnet? They don't even store any of your info on their servers

Telegram is for terrorists

more like russian hackers or that guy named Sup Forums that keeps hacking shit

I said Skype replacement you dumb fuck. Like it or not Skype is still somewhat popular and you can't replace it with Whatsapp.

>KYS
kill yourself you acronym spouting 16yo nigress

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>normies use this

literally the only people who use that in burgerland are minorities

who cares about fatland? those retards still use sms.

Calm your tits OP. It's gonna last for a couple of years, then someone like Microsoft will buy it, make it dogshit, it will go the way of Skype, and then normies will start switching to something else.

It's in our motherfucking hands to make sure the next switch is libre.

>then someone like Microsoft will buy it
how to spot the american. it belongs to facebook you ignorant fuck.

It will get ruined soon then, just like Skype did. Point still stands.

>It will get ruined soon then
it has been 10 fucking years it dominates all of the europe.
Facebook paid 19 fucking billion dollars to get it.
and you think it will get ruined just like skype?
Here is your average american.

exactly this
i didnt use it until my workmates made me do it and then my friends
its trash, yes but trash works

perfect quints

>free calls
Unless you have a fucking Tracfone you already have this. And in fact normal phone calls are more likely to be free than Whatsapp calls, since unlimited calling is far more common than unlimited data.

Regular phone calling also has a (physical) desktop client, and is an open standard.

Skype's been around for a while too. Took it about 15 years to get fucked until the point where it's totally shit and people are moving off of it. MS is now trying to desperately save the brand by shilling it to corporates. Another 5-10 years for WhatsApp, a privacy scandal or two, a fucking """""redesign""""" or two, and it's gonna be fucked enough to create an opening in the market.

I honestly do not understand why people use this over text messaging. group text, video and picture text, it's all fucking right there and doesn't use any data. are people. just fucking retarded and like. to get ass fucked by providers and pay big bills?

>And in fact normal phone calls are more likely to be free than Whatsapp calls
yeah sure, you didn't account for international calls I presume, It is popular in Europe where a lot countries exist, not the fatland.
Skype was never big like whatsapp. whatsapp never made design mistakes, still getting bigger on the user count.
go be fat somewhere else.
and another burger. go use a 3310 if you want to text someone.

It's mostly iMessage desu but ya android people use sms here

>go to DL whatsapp to see what the pajeets are making a fuss about
>it scours my fucking contact list for others who have whatsapp and sends them all this shitty generic message
>creepy as fuck
>the only people who used whatsapp were visible minorities
>delete immediately

I'll stick to iMessage and sms, thanks.

>yuropoor faggot

>sends them all this shitty generic message
as you can see, burgers can not even use their phones, even iphones are complex for them.

I can't hear you, swallow your burritos first then talk you fat fuck.

>Skype was never big like whatsapp
Nigger what? Skype still has over 300 million registered accounts, that's a quarter of WhatsApp's 1.2 billion. You don't consider this big? Consider that the internet was a lot smaller as well when Skype was big, and take into account said inflation before you make such comments.

>Skype still has over 300 million registered accounts, that's a quarter of WhatsApp's 1.2 billion. You don't consider this big?
you said it yourself. 25%. it is small.
> Consider that the internet was a lot smaller
and inmobile. skype was never meant for mobile phones but for computers.
Whatsapp was always for mobile phones. they even supported fucking symbian at first.
skype is nothing against whatsapp.

In my GROUP OF FRIIIEEENDS we chatted over Facebook, then some dumb bitch made everyone of us move to this.

I'm planning on starting my own IM project to get rid of all that proprietary and unencrypted shit.

It was there at the right place at the right time when sms costs were still stupid.

Nobody cares about desktop and open source, you communist.

I've always wondered why normoids don't just text eachother too, seems the most easy and logical option but they insist on switching between like 20 fucking apps for it constantly.

>yeah sure, you didn't account for international calls I presume, It is popular in Europe where a lot countries exist, not the fatland.
What, you have countries as small as US states and don't get free international calling within the EU? I thought cell carriers were supposed to be less shit in Europe, not more.

25% is not small you retard, not in terms of market share, especially not in terms of Skype controlling fucking 3/4 of the market a couple of years ago. 1% would be considered small, like how Linux's market share is considered small compared to Windows. Linux didn't have dominance over Windows 10 years ago like Skype did over the rest of the VoIP market. Skype had dominance because in its heyday it was actually better designed than competitors, and VoIP over PC was the name of the game. Now WhatsApp overtook it like crazy because of Skype's retarded redesigns, shit privacy record, and terrible phone app. Soon as WhatsApp settles into its big market share, it will stop innovating and that will be the end.

Nobody uses sms anymore in any country that isn't an anglo country. It's retarded when you can just use whatsapp.

burgers are still showing their intellect.
and their knowledge.

They only use it in anglo countries ever because of terminal retardation or because of baiting by phone companies that made the feature pretty much free to use because they sensed that phone data is going to overtake it anyway.

Nobody uses that in the land of the free. It's just a europoor thing.

>Soon as WhatsApp settles into its big market share
fat shits still think whatsapp is not big. I'm done.

ikr, imessage is way more superior and it works seemlessly with the desktop client too

>Skype was never big
>WhatsApp won't grow any further
I'm so sorry for your complete retardation. How much longer will you have to live with your condition?

Imessage is fucking garbage because it is only on devices with fucking ~10% market share. Unless everyone you know happens to be a fellow iCultist it's worthless.

Don't use it ;)

>Skype was never big
relative to Whatsapp, it is small
>WhatsApp won't grow any further
never said that you greasy retarded fuck, I said it is even getting biggerit seems you failed english exams due to extra fat in your hands. take them again.

My girlfriend said she'd hate me getting an android because then we'd have to use "ratchet" whatsapp.

>relative to Whatsapp, it is small
But it WASN'T is what I am trying to tell you, you absolute moron. Do you have no concept of the passage of time, or do you not understand the mechanics of market growth? When Skype settled into feature creep, they were still growing their user base. It took another couple of years for Android and Applel to take over the phone market and make it easy for WhatsApp to corner it by seizing an opportunity that Skype missed: mobile. Next thing that's going to upset the market, I can almost guarantee you that WhatsApp wont be agile enough to respond or will miss the opportunity and some startup will start hoarding their users like WhatsApp did before them, and Skype did before WhatsApp. Do you now understand the cycle, or do I need to explain again?

>convinced gf to use Signal instead of WhatsApp
>6 months later we break up

Back to 0 Signal contacts I guess

>It took another couple of years for Android and Applel to take over the phone market and make it easy for WhatsApp to corner it by seizing an opportunity that Skype missed: mobile
clearly you are the retard. I said this to you herenow you are saying to me like a parrot.
>I can almost guarantee you that WhatsApp wont be agile enough to respond or will miss the opportunity and some startup will start hoarding their users like WhatsApp did before them, and Skype did before WhatsApp.
the absolute state of fatland. he gives guarantees in Sup Forums.
simply epic.

About half the people I know have signal installed because of le wikileaks and guardian articles, but we all still use whatsapp to communicate. The excuse is that "everyone else is using it", despite physical proof that most of us also use signal. I think there must be some kind of psychological explanation for this.

just live a double life, strictly isolate everything and use whatever you want.You just call attention if you refuse to live like a "normie". Your security/privacy concerns are valid. You can enhance your privacy and security by pretending that you don't care.
Maybe reconsider if you want to use a smartphone in your private life at all.

>The only way to make them stop is to refuse to use it: to boycott it.
Nah, that'll only make you friendless.

You answered your own question.

Every normie uses it, so everyone else is forced to use it, too.

(((The Industry))) tries to deny it, but once something becomes a standard, it's not possible to compete with it.
(((They))) usually deny it by referring to decade old shit like like MySpace, but that only died because the internet MASSIVELY changed because of all the normies who invaded it with their new smartphones.
Such a thing won't happen again.

because its the norm to use WA
everyone who doesn't conform to the norm is an outsider and gets shunned

Your post is shit, you gave me nothing more to work with. I explained to you like I would to a tard about how this shit works, and I can fucking guarantee you that WhatsApp will get overtaken soon as Facebook starts screwing with the app because they ran out of ideas and the CEO says they need to keep growing, or some new thing comes along that allows normies to communicate in a (((cooler))) way than emojis and videocalling on your mobile. That's right, I guarantee, because that's how this shit works. Proof is with skype. If you still don't understand, I pray for europoor society, how did you fucks not get completely cucked by mudslims yet, nobody knows.

I wish everyone still used Skype but I'm speechless as to how microsoft fucked it up over the last decade.

I mean jesus christ, what a bloated, inconsistent, password changing MESS.

WhatsApp is okay but horribly boring. I'm also not okay with facebook holding the monopoly on instant communication in the entire western world

>Such a thing won't happen again.
I'm sure that the same thing was said when the PC first became le internet machine and everybody was absolutely convinced that this is the pinnacle of instant communication and can't possibly be improved upon further.

Your post should have a caveat for emerging tech.

Not here in Aus, everybody has unlimited calls but very limited data, starting from 1gb. What's worse though is discord...

>WhatsApp replacement for Skype
Nah, bro. That's Discord. It's not boring, either. It's TOO not boring.

There will be nothing anymore that will be quite as important as the normie invasion of the www.