I've been distrohopping for a while now, because literally anything except Manjaro (Deepin) is fucking freeezing/crashing every now and then, it crashed while I was writing this, so I'm on my shitty laptop now
anyway, I'm deciding between reinstalling Manjaro Deepin or installing Arch
I know 0 about Arch, so explain why Arch is the best choice
also, I'm a debianfag, I'm not a huge fan of arch(-based) stuff, but i have to use it.
Ubuntu is the better choice. Maybe xubuntu or Lubuntu depending of your computer power.
It looks like shit tho
arch is love, arch is life
Ubuntu is shit
Why do you have to use arch?
Haven't tried Ubuntu yet, but since every other Ddebian distro has these crashes, I don't think it'll work.
Why not just stay on what works??
>distrohopping
Do something productive instead.
Arch is fun.
Just install Arch with any nice looking DE then you have a comfy setup with a good package manager.
Anyway does it really matter that much?
As I said, everything which isn't based on Arch just crashed randomly. Solus and Netrunner were the worst ones so far, I liked using them, but they crashed all the time.
That's the point of this thread, I'm asking if Arch might be better/ I'm trying to gather professional Sup Forums-opinions about arch
If most distros hadn't been freezing on me every few minutes/hours, I would be doing something productive
arch just works (if you are not moron)
Give these three Manjaro spins a couple tries, Xfce, Budgie, LXDE. LXDE and Xfce should both be lighter on resources hopefully they won't crash on you, and Budgie is much lighter than Deepin
Arch sucks compared to Manjaro, you probally won't like it.
>literally anything except Manjaro
well i dont know if you really mean literally because you didnt list what you have tried, but if you think arch might be good for your health try it...
Or instead of actually installing the OS on your PC try them on a VM or something similar, if you have the chance
Another one that might be good is NixOS
Fcuk those bloated DEs pieces of shit, DWM FTW
i dont see the relation, but i like that pic
shitty use of that word, sorry, I'm kinda frustrated right now
I might check out NixOS, thanks for the recommendation
i havent actually tried NixOS before, but ive done some reading and its on my TODO list for some time, it seems promissing
Explain this shit then
Xubuntu looks good out of the box and is super easy to rice.
> I'm deciding between reinstalling Manjaro Deepin or installing Arch
the only difference between manjaro and arch is that manjaro has everything you need to work right after installation and arch doesn't persuade you on particular software so you have to install everything yourself and make decisions.
> why Arch is the best choice
because of pacman. package manager is the only thing that matters in linux distribution, and arch's is superior.
try bunsenlabs or #++
Is Antergos compromised or is it safe to use?
It's literally an installer for Arch. As in the same way ubiquity is the name of the I installer for Ubuntu
Trisquel is pretty nice. The only issues I have discovered is the default browser sometimes plays double audio while watching videos online and I am not able to create another live USB on any of the programs that I can find in the available programs.
I already tried five times to DL Unetbootin and there is no way that I can figure(yet?) to make it work.
Otherwise you should be using a separate OS for your browsing via Live USB for security purposes anyway so.... Do that.
Also during install the Orca accessibility program for blind people is on by default and you might need to delete it to shut it off.
I forgot. It has systemD. I am moving to something without systemD so take what I said here with a grain of salt.
Trisquel without systemD, when?
? what's there to explain? You can't configure a DE properly and showed us a cropped screenshot of said clusterfuck. RTFM
Antergos is a bloatware installer.
Manjaro dosen't have this problem
I know that feel
I use is xubuntu and sometimes the DE crashes to black with no warning
You get new shit and don't have to start with KDE and use opensuse special software if you don't want to, or compile everything yourself.
Cons: rolling opensuse is somehow more stable and some people break systems on random updates. Not everyone experiences it, but if it happens to you it will be bad.
Also, it's best to find out why your installs keep crashing.
Manjaro also brings in octopi and its shitty green theme(s) and a bit more bloat. I love manjaro but there's no excuse for not using Arch-Anywhere. Do you have any odd hardware by chance? such as an nVidia Graphics card or god forbid an AMD one?
>odd hardware
>AMD or Nvidia
yeah, sure "odd"
It has pamac, and I generally don't like fucking with Arch, but I efi installed it, so I'm stuck with that for a bit. Your bloat can be deleted in less time it takes to configure Arch to behave it's self.
>yeah, sure "odd"
I meant as in not disclosed by you, linux in general struggles a bit with propietary things.
>t has pamac, and I generally don't like fucking with Arch, but I efi installed it, so I'm stuck with that for a bit. Your bloat can be deleted in less time it takes to configure Arch to behave it's self.
I'm not shitting on Manjaro, it's my go-to to recommend noobs but come on, you're acting like a pompous prick thinking we're your tech support.
It can't even theme a volume widget consistantly. No other distro has this problem. It is one of many gripes about Arch. Did I find a solution, or do I just not care enough about it to fix it? Why should it be my responsibility? What made you think I was asking for your """"""tech support?"""""" It's always the same with you archfags, just like "rtfm" you just don't know, and don't want to spend the time to figure it out, because deep down, no one really wants to baby sit a fucking OS, they just want to get shit done. TimesinkOS
Now you're asking for me to be hostile, here goes.
>It can't even theme a volume widget consistantly. No other distro has this problem.
It's not a distro problem, it's the DE's business to theme accordingly. Xfce is responsible for this, RTFM
>It is one of many gripes about Arch. Did I find a solution, or do I just not care enough about it to fix it?
seeing as you're on Sup Forums shitposting about linux it'd be the latter choice.
>Why should it be my responsibility?
Because you're the one installing said components, it's not anyone's responsibility other than the devs and they have many ways to be contacted you're just too fucking retarded to flag them down for a bug or asking on a forum.
> What made you think I was asking for your """"""tech support?""""""
the fact that later on in your "argument" you beg to be spoonfed.
>It's always the same with you archfags, "rtfm" you just don't know, and don't want to spend the time to figure it out, because deep down, no one really wants to baby sit a fucking OS, they just want to get shit done. TimesinkOS
it's not a Timesink if you actually Read The Fucking Manual. The wiki covers all the common issues, try another distro then? Oh right you're too incompetent for anything debian-based and too autistic to fix arch-derivatives. I thank G-d every day I wake up and I'm not you.
It's the same as Manjaro, theme, icon set, everything, but Arch fucks it up.
>laptop
everyfuckingtime
P.S if you didn't want to read through the wiki, and deal with such hardware problems that your double digit IQ can't handle you probably shouldn't have picked arch or it's derivatives. Manjaro works fine for you doesn't it? then why are you on here? What's your deal? Do you just want to install arch to be an elitist? We could do a lot better without your stupidity. Read the fucking wiki you pleb. I used Arch Anywhere so I wouldn't have to put up with building it from source. Now fuck off.
>It's the same as Manjaro, theme, icon set, everything, but Arch fucks it up.
What's your DE? I assume Xfce. Install the package "volumeicon" and run it once to see if it gets themed. Xfce carries different version plugins on each distro and volumeicon is the only proper way to get it integrated into the notification bar. Now fuck off you're not getting *any* more tech support.
I installed it for efi support. And thanks, that worked, getting answers from you fags is tough work.
>getting answers from you fags is tough work.
probably because we're not your designated tech support.
Arch is good because the install is pretty basic so you have great control, but this also can mean you have total freedom to fuck your installation too
Just read the wiki and you will be fine
You can install pretty much any DE/Theme/WM/Application on any distro. Everyone hates unity, no one likes GNOME and there is only a handful of known eye cancer, caused by xfwm’s screen tearing, survivors.
Go slap together your own animu themed, barely usable, buggy and annoying as fuck LEenOocKz Desktop. Or just use mac/windows.
I'm installing Arch too, but I can't install it to zfs, or btrfs because I can't install the bootloader.
using an NVME drive btw
>retards can hurt themselves, so let's ban everything
yo op, i was new to linux and distrohopped only to find out all my problems come from 4 things:
>drivers
>uefi, legacy or bios problems
>missing firmware where you can find firmware packages online
>modules within the computer itself blocking certain aspects of a running distro
for me, only ubuntu based OS's worked but with the four issues out of the way, i can use any
OP here,
thanks for naming some pros and cons, I think I'll choose Arch and test it a bit, if I have any bigger problems I guess I'll just reinstall Manjaro Deepin
Really wanna know why so many distros are crashing though, I'm a big noob at gpu/cpu/drivers+linux stuff, Windows (and Manjaro, which was my first distro) just werked idk
Don't forget to read the wiki about editing your fstab, and you'll have to figure out how to install pamac also.
>no one likes GNOME
>be using arch on 10+ year old laptop
>"pacman -Syu" upgrades kernel and libinput
>I generally don't reboot very often so 10 days pass
>reboot
>screen tearing for literally half the screen
>built-in keyboard doesn't work
>I had lightDM installed, touchpad was dead too
After about an entire day and from a bootable USB I managed to downgrafe the kernel, then removed it completely and switched to linux-lts
I love Arch and after ~4 months of distrohopping it's the most confy out of them all, been using it for 3 years now, but when it crashes it's the absolute worst
I do have only myself to blame for upgrading like that tho
can't you just switch to a terminal (Ctrl-Alt-F1) or whatever
i did jump on tty2, but dmesg wasn't giving many useful things, I just had to guess that the kernel broke many dependencies
I did that by connecting with an external keyboard btw, since due to my enabling SysD to log in to lightDM I was already crashing the built-in keyboard and had to get a backup one for everything
I've been using arch for a year now and yesterday after
pacman -Syyu
I got error complaining about missing tty(#number)
kek, I need stable OS, so came back to where I started my Linux journey - Ubuntu.
Although I don't really like some Canonical decisions. It just works though.
>no one likes unity
>no one likes gnome
these are literally the only two DEs that support smooth scrolling without needing hardware acceleration
neither compiz, nor compton, in combination with anything, are nearly as smooth as Unity. Cinnamon and KDE can't even get as smooth as Unity.
forgot to mention, that error happened after reboot and I couldn't boot into arch anymore. That was funny. :^)
Personal preference, but I honestly don't understand why people even bother with arch. The devs are irresponsible and borderline reckless. Upgrading is basically a gamble. Who honestly has the time to babysit their OS and not tear their hair out when things break like that?
I had something similar happen on my laptop
>Werking just fine
>Update to new kernel
>reboot
>disables all gpu powersaving settings
>can't re-enable them
>Ignores grub and intel-20.conf
>gimps battery from 6 to 2hr on full charge
Downgraded the kernel then everything was fine again.
>I did jump on tty2
I'm very curious why you felt it was necessary to specify the number
At least for me it's pretty hard to choose distro. I liked ubuntu since 7.04, then unity and gnome shell came out... Then canonical started working closely with MS and amazon thing happened...
Now I do not like canonical just like I don't like RedHat.
Community driven distribution sounds just like what I wanted and it was great with archlinux (pacman is comfy, yaourt is a thing) until yesterdays update which broke everything and I didn't bothered to fix it.
I once went distro hopping and couldn't install anything. (errors and such) Turns out I had a defective SATA cable. Maybe your shit's busted user.
just detail autism
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I don't know man, the installation wiki makes it so easy that morons actually install it
The current kernel is shitting the bed with my hardware
I have to manually power it off after it reaches the power off signal
I can downgrade it but muh bleeding edge