So after 20 years at my old job I'm retiring. Yes, I'm an old fart. And yes, it was a government job where they let you retire after 20 years.
So now I want to reinvent myself and go into a different sector of employment - IT. I have no certificates, so I want to start out at the bottom with the fundmentals with things like A+, Net+, Sec+, and CCNA.
I looked around for how much it would cost to attend a class that teaches these things, and said FUCK NO. So how realistic would it be for me to self-teach myself the necessary stuff it takes to earn the certs I mentioned? I will happily purchase and read a textbook cover-to-cover, watch videos online teaching these things, and utilize web sites that help me practice for the tests. Also, I'm not starting from scratch - I've fucked around with tech all my life though mostly as a hobby (building desktops from parts to satisfy my gayming needs, fucking around with wifi routers for my house, smartphones, etc).
>I want to start out at the bottom No you don't. Get moving quick though. This is how alcoholism sets in. Not even joking...I have a Fundamentalist brood of retired uncles.
Think laterally; you could fuck around with SEO, travel sites and then set up a consulting company to maximize revenue for resorts in a sleepier beach area.
Gabriel Moore
>Yes, I'm an old fart >So now I want to reinvent myself and go into a different sector of employment - IT
Fuck off
Easton Cooper
Were full, get out.
Dylan Allen
start doing granny trans porn
Michael Baker
>I will happily purchase and read a textbook cover-to-cover
What a horrible thought.
Evan Moore
nice blogpost gramps
Gabriel Rogers
What MOS/Rate?
Connor Powell
I've got nothing but time on my hands - wife is now an Ex and kids are moved out of the house.
And I'm the kind of boring old fart that wears a bath robe and slippers around the house, and looks forward to some quiet time with a book - I wish I had a fireplace to complete the picture. It's been mostly fiction, but I'll give this a shot because I basically did the same thing WAYYYYYY back in college.
Connor Ross
25B/E6
Brandon Ross
Mate what are you doing on Sup Forums shitposting with high schoolers?
Jordan Rogers
you're headed towards depression op. seek help
Asher Jones
Government lackey. Certs are shit, you'll be doing tech support for an isp for minimum wage.
Nolan Long
I've been fucking around Sup Forums since around 2005 or so. I come and I go.
Also I won't discount that I might have the mentality of an autistic 17 year old. Hence why my wife left me and my kids don't talk to me. :D
Joshua Martin
>Government lackey. Former government lackey. There's a reason I retired.
>Certs are shit, you'll be doing tech support for an isp for minimum wage. That'd be fine with me. Gives me something to do.
Jack Miller
What do you want to specialize in? Helpdesk? System administration? Do you want to work with Windows machines or be a "jack-off of all trades - master of porn" type?
Matthew Ward
Honestly? I have no fucking clue. But if you held a gun to my head, I would say security, I guess - since my old job required me to have a security clearance.
But I'm open to recommendations.
Camden Perry
You have a secret clearance... check clearancejobs and make a profile. Also see about becoming a GS.
Isaac Carter
Rgr
Henry Jenkins
Nice. You're alright.
Joseph Peterson
What about those pay-for-access masters programs? Can you get grant money and then take some electives in a CS department? There must be some MPA funnels for 40-somethings to get into cybersecurity at Booz or boutique consultancies. This has been a cash cow since all of the financial lobbying and Blackwater money dried up back after 2008. The Russian government hacking and North Korean industrial sabotage will have only increased demand.
Julian Jackson
> I looked around for how much it would cost to attend a class that teaches these things, and said FUCK NO Meanwhile, this market generally wants FUCK YES AND I ALSO GOT STARTED WITH AN UNIVERSITY DEGREE TOO.
You have to compensate for quite a lot in an employer's eye if you're an old fart, you know.
Mason Davis
>What about those pay-for-access masters programs?
I had no idea those exist. I'll go take a look.
Lincoln Green
I got a degree already, though. I'm just asking if it's realistic to get IT certs without benefit of taking classes with an instructor.
Carter Perry
alright? nigga, he's living the dream >retired >no wife to nag >kids moved out, so no need to give them money (if they ask, he can tell them to fuck off and they WILL fuck off) he's living my dream stay true, old man, you're doing God's work
Jose Hill
Dad?
Evan Lopez
If I told you once, I told you a thousand times:
These are my chicken tenders, God damn it. And you can't have any. Go ask your mom to make you some.
Noah Hall
Oh and hi son! :D Want to watch some anime together?
Liam Thompson
No. The point is that you show you're *all in* and motivated.
Not some old fuck who learned obsolete and now job unrelated punch card techniques who just wants to an income until he retires and will work slowly on the job and be generally a much worse choice than one of the plentiful younger new hires.
Acquiring bottom tier certificates slowly on your own likely won't do the trick unless somehow your country has problems finding low tier IT people.
Julian Morgan
We have tons of prior army guys working at the comm squadron on my base, and at the NOC too. It's totally doable to get some certs on your own... check out r/homelab to get some ideas as to how to build your own lab so you get some hands on experience. Guys who just know everything out of a book aren't incredibly useful.
Your big benefits are going to be your clearance and years of experience in the government.
You could definitely land a GS-9 or 11 position, which combined with your retirement would make for a very comfy lifestyle.
Henry Johnson
No one hires old people for junior positions in IT, y'all are too entitled and slow
Dylan Lopez
Gotcha. Thanks!
Nicholas James
No problem. Currently enlisted, just trying to help a brother out.
Brayden White
>So after 20 years at my old job I'm retiring. Learn C++ and spend the rest of your life as a NEET writing FOSS for peanuts. That's what I would do.
William Nelson
In that case, word of advice: If you intend to make it your life's career, make damn sure there's plenty of upward mobility in your MOS - and damn it, do all the necessary shit (online classes and schools) so you're qualified for promotion ASAP. Mine hardly had any mobility - hence 20 years going by and all I have is E6 to show for it. Well, that and a clearance.
Joshua Brown
Idk about all that. Wife leaving sounds pretty shit
Mason Price
Oh believe me it gets pretty shit wayyyyy before they actually leave.
Oliver Johnson
I text-to-speech entire text books. Sometimes twice.
Ayden James
>t. psychology major text-to-speech works bretty gud with your textbooks huh
Also try visiting iFixit, get an account, and peruse through their site. They will probably let you get a wholesale business account if you tell them you are starting up and getting into things. They have resources there to help you get certified to sell refurbished tech devices from phones to Macs (I'm sure theres a windows one too or generic laptop one or something...), and start your own business as a repair technician. If you've got tons of free time and you're retired so finances aren't haunting you to perform and bring home X amount of dollars, you can jump right into this and go at your own pace pretty easily, doing business the way you like to.