>design a case with TWO 200mm fans
>seal off the the front so no actual air can flow through
This is the absolute state of CoolerMustard in the current year of our lord and savior Jesus H. Christ.
Also:
>$1000 power supply
>Cosmos II rehash with same outdated internals
Stop.
wtf fractal design blocks off the front too???? why even have front fans?
>what are the open grills on the sides
are you literally stupid?
Because it's a silent case.
When there's a 10°c temp reduction from pulling off the front panel, clearly they didn't think this through.
Such visionary airflow design!
I feel like modern cases are getting to the point where they're just turning to shit, making the move from function to form and not batting an eye at the necessary testing or engineering to produce a good case. Even purpose built cases are just gimmick stacking and don't necessarily produce best in class results. Frankly it's pathetic.
yeah, that case was a rushed piece of turd, CM fucked up big time
>it's supposed to have good airflow but it doesn't lmao
>buy your own PCI-E riser lmao
>you want to put real E-ATX boards in it? fuck you lmao
>you want drive cages? fuck you lmao
>you thought you'd be getting front and top glass panels? you'll have to make do with plastic lmao
Cooler Master fucked themselves by doing this whole modular "Master Series" when the modular parts themselves costs fuckhuge amounts of money and are only available on some shitty Austrian online store.
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not really, generally those cases were good, they completely fucked up with the H500P though (I don't know about the C700P)
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grills on the sides work for 120/140mm fans that have decent static pressure vs airflow, 200mm fans are absolutely shit, only AP180/AP182 are worth the hassle, AP182s are loud as fuck btw.
that case was really disappointing, I don't even know what are the other options for E-ATX boards
The bigger the blade the more air moves through it, and by orders of magnitude. So while you may be correct in the market of case fans it's only as a product of malfeasance and neglect by the manufacturers of 200mm fans.
The fans also protrude from the front, so the front face of the fan sits halfway in the gap. Instead of the fan being recessed into the case so the fan doesn't cover any of the side mesh
at least it's possible to mount frontal fans on the inside of the case so they don't fuck with the mesh
>CoolerMustard
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i love their modular series, masterbate case drive bays work perfectly with my nano s when i needed more hdd bays
Old Cooler Master HighAirFlow
New Cooler Master HampersAirFlow
its got glass so its better.
I'm shocked, a case with those kind of fans should have topped the list of coolest cases on the market, easily up there in the sub 50c range with the RL106 and the Meshify C(with 2x af-14 fans).
This makes me wanna see FD design a full tower Meshify C with 2x 240mm fans, that would be neat.
>TEMPERED GLASS FOR EVERYBOY
>RIGHT ANGLES EVERYWHERE
>EDGY BLACK AS MY SOUL EVERYWHERE
>ARR GEE BEE EL EE DEE EVERYTHING
it's absolute cancer
As opposed to what? Shitty interior design with no expansion slots, drive bays and a shitty beige color scheme?
You don't have to buy tempered glass, you don't have to buy angular design, you don't have to buy black cases (in fact I'm sure white cases are growing in popularity lately) and you absolutely do not have to buy RGB, and if you case comes with RGB by default you can just not plug the RGB in.
So what's the big deal?
not him, but my issue with TG is when companies like FD make a case like the meshify C but don't make a version with no glass. Really all I want is a modern memeless case but anything big and high quality made without implementing some pointless trend won't make the gaymers happy.
This is why I still use an antec 1200 v1
It just werks
fan casings block 2/3rds of said grills
the entire case is a study in design defeating function
>full tower case
>2x Internal 3.5" Drive Bays
This. There's nothing deserving a premium at the moment.
I bought the master case 5 because it was cheap and looked nice, but shit fuck are thermals bad under load.
Just removed the front panel :/
This is why I’m going to go for the Thermaltake P3 for the build I’m making this Christmas.
Corsair r270 (no window) werks for me.
200mm fans are great, I wish more cases used them
so damn quiet and they seem to last forever
baiting, retarded, and samefagging.
it's the holy fucking trinity
I like the Air 740. Shitloads of room, keeps the hot stuff hot and the cold stuff cold.
>2x bottom and top fan
where is the psu?
Have the same case but want a new one, have had that case for about 7 years now.
The big fan on the top is what I hate, it allows dust to easily get into the case.
My top fan gave out so it's blocked with a spray painted piece of cardboard.
I have a noctua 200mm fan on the way though.
I'm gonna use this case until the ATX form factor is dead. Then I'm gonna fill it with whatever tiny computers they have then.
Dozens of them.
in the other compartment with the SSD and fan controller
Its a choice between aesthetics, noise, and functionality.
HAF-X owner here
I dont plan on any changes in the next 10 years.
gearbest.com
Next time I build a PC, I might buy my case from Chinese shits. If only for the unique/new factor rather the old western style.
There's literally nothing wrong with modern cases. I remember back in the day, before fancy gaming cases like the antec 900 when you had to choose between extremely expensive, quality cases (like lian li), cases which were expensive and would take shitloads of time to get working (like acrylic and "modular" cases), and the complete garbage cheap cases, which had almost no structural integrity and were basically useless after you used them once. Cable management wasn't a thing, drive cages weren't a thing, you had to screw everything directly into the case. PSUs were always grey, not modular, ugly and came with lots of garbage like floppy drive power that you never needed. The case was immediately filled with dust since dust filters weren't a thing. The computers were loud as shit because 80mm was the standard fan size.
Today, you can buy a case for $50 and it will be better than almost every case on the market 10-15 years ago. It will be quieter, easier to build with, accumulate less dust, look better. If it bothers you so much that the front blocks off airflow, just remove it and add grills. Or even better: Modify the case yourself. Not all parts of the case are made from tempered glass. I'm sure you know how to use an electric drill.
>samefagging.
Not me, I'm op and >There's literally nothing wrong with modern cases.
Is this the "there is literally nothing wrong with being Jewish" of Sup Forums?
>2014+3
>not using the Sharkoon Rex 3 white
Plebs the lot of you
Will try this... My temps are fine anyways, only in the summer they get alarmingly hot..
>I7-3770k at 4.4ghz, load ~60-65C
>GTX 1070, load ~60-65C
During summer you can add 5-7 degrees onto that. Case fans are always at 5V, CPU ramps up to 1000 and GPU gets to 45%
Why don't more cases use 180/200mm fans?
It would provide more airflow with less RPM and thus noise.
I seriously miss my Antec Dark Fleet.
Easy swap of drives through quick access bays that also allowed easy to clean fan filters.
Hard to say, maybe because 140mm is more "universal" and usable across a wide range of uses, while a 200mm fan needs a full ATX tower and can't be used for other purposes like attaching one to a cooler.
Noctua is making 200mm fans now, so maybe more companies will follow suit. Noctua's claim for making them only now is that they're harder to design to the same tolerances as smaller fans.
This.
140mm is the sweet spot.
Try to find a decent 140mm Fan to be used with a radiator, which is making less then 15 db sound, and is able to archive a high air pressure compared to 120mm Fans
>Nearly impossible
140mm is the best.
Its hard to see a case that support rear 140mm fan.
Best I can find was a
AeroCool Dead Silence White Edition, 140mm
14,2 db at 1.21mmH2O
Other decent 120mm Fan:
>LC-Power AiRazor Black Series, 120mm
>13,6db @2.44mmH2O
I'm and with push-pull it allows me to lower the RPM yet still achieve the same high air pressure as if I had just 2 SPs running with higher RPM to achieve same results. Basically I don't have noise issues.
See xtremerigs.net
>Its hard to see a case that support rear 140mm fan.
Why is that though?
>tfw bought a corsair 450d before looking into fractal cases
I have this case
I don't need to upgrade until major IO change
Anyone tried Coolermasters N series?
I was about to buy this but it doesn't have dust filters on the bottom and no dust filter on the psu holes.
Just buy magnetic dust filters and slap em on.
N200 here and happy with it. Not much space behind the mobo for cable management, but still pretty okay. The bigger models might be better in that aspect. A simple "it just werks" case.
Best 200mm fan case IMO. It's got three 3.5 and three 2.5 too, plus you can build with a vertical or horizontal motherboard. It's the closest thing to an enclosed test bench.
>full ATX
What cooler is that?
This is a cube case though, they're kind of in their own category, because it's around 50% wider than most towers (21cm vs. 32cm) and not everyone wants a chunky box on their table.
Noctua D15, one of the largest air coolers you can get and regularly beats most AIOs for combined sound, performance and price ratio.
Yes, it's a total pain in the ass to build in, but otherwise reasonable for the price. Good airflow too.
Just don't expect to do any cable management in it.
I got an HAF XB EVO, love the thing so much.
The cube sits nicely on my desk, much better space economy than with my old regular tower.
how was the ryzen strix? do you use 8 cores ryzen with it?
N400 here, poor cable management but still pretty good case.
for everyone shitting on companies not producing good cases anymore, take a look at silverstone. their rl06 case is loud as fuck but its definitely closer to a high airflow case than this abortion. also have some really interesting cases with the vertical rotation, raven series and fortress series iirc. idk if their silent cases are worth the premium over fractal though, and for budget like 70 and under you're kinda fucked
Does anyone have the aerocool Ds 230?
goddamn if it had mesh front, that thing would have crazy airflow