Why are all laptops garbage unless you buy a $2000 gaming laptop that's as thick as something from the 90's?

Why are all laptops garbage unless you buy a $2000 gaming laptop that's as thick as something from the 90's?
>"""Core i5""" dual core CPU
>last gen mobile version of a budget GPU
>1366x768 TN panel
It makes no sense why laptop specs are so underwhelming still. Can they at least increase the default screen resolution to 1080p?

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people still buy it

Thinkpads are usually decently specced and some cost under 1 grand, but i cant always say i can reccomend them nowadays since lenovo have turned them into steaming piles of shit with the new keyboard and everything

Was just thinking this. I bought a brand new laptop just a year and a half ago and it's already so fucked it's nearly unusable.

HOLY FUCK YOU STUPID RETARDS, 768P IS FINE ON A LAPTOP SCREEN UP TO 15".

LITERAL COCKMUNCHING RETARDS, LITERAL MARKETING VICTIMS.

ENJOY YOUR FUCKING PLACEBOS AND SHITTY DPI UPSCALING SUPPORT.

Turn off the caps lock you mongrel

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT YOU MANLET PIECE OF SHIT?

Oh yeah I really need a Threadripper+I9, GTX1080Ti with Vega 64 and a 5k, 144fps, Gree-Sync monitor just to watch porn on business trips.

meanwhile my 2015 retina mbp is still working flawlessly UwU

No one buys them so they make their money by trying to trap idiots

You can spec laptops fairly decently if you forgo the gpu and touchscreen.

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I have an Aorus x3 r7 and it's pretty sweet

>2560x1440p screen
>16GB ddr4 2400Mhz RAM
>512 nvme ssd
>decent keyboard
>excellent trackpad
>thin
>dat ass

3.97 pounds of ASS

>buy ASUS ux401 for $1200
>runs everything
NVIDIA GTX 850
Core i7 7500U
16GB ram
256GB SSD 1TB HDD

isn't 1080p a standard? It's even common on mobile, the least they could do is abandon this mangled resolution amd make 1080p display more common.

>thinkpad x220
>8gb RAM
>2.5 GHz
>300 GB HDD
>some basic integrated graphics most likely
>200 CAD
I'm literally fine with this, I'll play actually demanding games on my desktop, I don't play games when I'm out and about anyways
and this gen laptops are targeted towards teens and post-secondary students for the most part anyways, who will just bloat the shit out of their comps within a month and they'll run like crap anyways

I'm sorry Ill stop please don't get the mods

>phones are at 1440p and even 2160p IPS and AMOLED
>laptopcucks are still on 768p TN
Top kek, even tablets are outpacing laptops. iPad Pro is 120Hz, to get a 120Hz laptop you need a super expensive Gsync gaming laptop.

A girl I know got some shitty Beats HP 360 degree thing.

>1366x768 TN panel
>Intel Bentium
>500GB HDD
>the screen is fucking worse than my Samsung netbook's from 2012

I can't believe Intel is still shipping Pentium shit. Its slow as fuck.

Just wait for the eventual "but phone screens have different process from laptop screens" or something like that. I never hear anyone elaborate further than that, it's probably bullshit

laptop pentiums are true quadcores, though

Wow, what the fuck it seems you're right. Why's it so incredibly slow? Maybe the dogshit drive and Windows 10?

Any laptop would feel slow out of the box since they all ship with 5400rpm drives and relatively low amount of RAM, couple that with Win10 bloat and you're in for a ride.

STOP ANSWERING TO YOURSELF YOU KEK, I'M STILL HERE, MANLETRON.

Laptops are for getting things done. Don't even compare a proper computer with your retarded toy OS full of pajeet apps.

Normies are retards who fall for memes such as 4k on a fucking 5 inch screen. Not even a retard can justify that.

Good laptop
Had mine since 2012. Still on my original install of win7.

Only bad things are that the HDD is going bad and the cardreader broke

I have at least a three year old laptop, works fine. Don't need to play games. What do people use that they need such powerful laptops?

>he actually bought an autismrus

lol what a faggot.

Just bought a new laptop for shitposting and some basic coding.

>i5 6200u & 8GB RAM, still gets around 8hrs real usage/charge
>14in 1080p panel w/ small bezels
>solid design, charges with USB-C
>$350

Only downside is it's a Chromebook but I run Linux as my daily driver so IDGAF.

Laptops aren't garbage you just either have unrealistic standards about what you need or you're a fucking idiot when it comes to doing research.

>"""Core i5""" dual core CPU
No the performance isn't on par with a desktop i5, but unless you're doing one of a few tasks that needs lots of power -- gaming, CAD, rendering videos, ... -- you won't see much difference at all. Meanwhile that dual core i5 laptop CPU has low enough power consumption to do many office and web tasks without getting hot running the fan. Smaller heatsink, smaller battery, lighter machine, longer battery life.
>last gen mobile version of a budget GPU
Why the fuck are you doing any serious gaming on a laptop? If you're trying to do CAD on the go, there are some bulky "workstation" laptops. If you're doing CUDA/OpenCL stuff, remote into a desktop at home or use a VPS. Other than that, an Intel GPU or last gen budget GPU is fine these days.
>1366x768 TN panel
Now that is inexcusable. But most laptops have an option for a FHD or better panel when you buy them, so pay the bit extra for that or stop griping.

Get a SSD.

I'm and I was making a comparison between phone/tablet screens and laptop screens, not the phones/tablets and laptops themselves
I like laptops but this is ridiculous, 1080p should be standard by now and yet it's still much more common to find the mangled 768p resolution on them.

Because we don't fucking need to play candy crush on retarded resolutions and infinite ppis. We don't need to bother ourselves with shitty dpi upscaling and reduced performance for some shitty placebo because >muh bigga numbas.

Why are every laptop comes shitty dedicated gpu?
I don't want that, I don't need that and it makes it unnecessarily expensive

Most of the ones that focus on being lightweight and ultraportable just have an Intel GPU...

Yeah and those cost almost double to the ones that has dedicated gpu.

One that are designed to be cheap don't include a dedicated GPU either.

>reduced performance
How? 1080p shouldn't be fucking hard to drive, especially on modern hardware and if you're only doing what you think people should be doing on their laptops. Which is working.
>shitty dpi scaling
How? 1080p has been around for a while, you'd think that they'd have solved that problem by now, especially since 1080p pairs with a whole number for a 16:9 aspect ratio while 768p doesn't
Shouldn't more screen real estate be beneficial as well, since you're so focused on holding onto that productivity argument?

just stop buying consumer shit. Business grade and enterprise computers are so much better it's a joke. You might pay like $200 more for a business grade laptop but it's going to last.

Yeah, but cheap ones are shitty.
I want an i3/i5 with 4gb ram(upgradeable), not 1366*768 screen.
A normal laptop that they give you for few hundred bucks, but without gpu

>g

I use an x220 as my dail driver but that low res is painful.

What do you want in a laptop tho?
I have 2 at work, both are good for their use cases
>hp elitebook 440
>i5-6300u, 8gb ram, 1080p, slim and weights next to nothing, perfect for presentation and excel work
>dell workstation laptop
>i7, 32gb ram, 17", dunno what res, big, bulky, for CAD-work and inspecting 3D data

literally posting on one. The antenas to the wlan constantly slip off, and I have to reconnect them. Other than that great machine.

are any MSI laptops worth the price? They look nice.

For what it's worth, I want to use this shit for unreal engine 4 development and some moderate gaming.

Let's face it, 1366x768 is a more retarded resolution than 1920x1080 and on a 14" screen, there's only a difference of a little less than 50dpi
I've made the comparison to phones because, while phones are managing to be produced with these resolutions on a ridiculously small screens, cheap laptops seem to be stuck in this 768p hell and can't even manage to jump to 1080p which is a reasonable jump in resolution, in my opinion. You seem to have manage to take that as me advocating for something retarded like 8k on a 14" monitor just to try and prove me wrong.
Barely a 50dpi difference and 1080p displays being able to be powered by a bunch of much older and weaker set-top boxes for quite a while now, it seems like "muh performance, muh dehpeee skayleeng" has become too much of a buzzword.

>they look good
>mfw
No. MSI's are autistic ricer dogshit. Poor reliability on their lower end series (GP and GE) and extremely overpriced. Be smart and save yourself money. Buy a clevo/sager. Much more reliable, and you will get better specs whilst saving lots of dosh.

any in particular?

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In general, most of them are really good despite the cheap price tag. They are well built and will last a long time.

Which model?

Because only nerds should have to worry about burning their laps.

Also, those N-series Pentiums are Atom-tier. xxxxU-series Pentiums are actually dualcore and way faster, as far as I know.

Manufacturers of SoC have lost some focus on Windows. If you want a W10 device with this and that, you need more grunt. It doesn't help that a lot of people are fed up with Windows and moved on to simpler, SoC derived products that literally sip the coffee in comparison.

You can't compare DPI and Resolution without considering the costs. That being bandwidth, thermals, TDP, yadda yadda.

Does anyone have a laptop with the new gtx1070/1080? are they as good as the desktop models?

And here is the post that I've been waiting for the type that just throws words like that without any further elaboration.

i guess the sheer size and PPI make a huge difference in manufacturing these.
We can make 2" OLED for 3$ now and got them for years in Phones, but 32" TVs are yet to be seen, only overpriced 80" BBC garbage

This

What the fuck are you talking about? I just bought a HP with 15,6" 1920x1080 screen, 256gb SSD, 6gb RAM and some Kaby Lake quad-core for 350€. Even if my desktop broke, I'd be able to use this shit as my main device for years.

>2yo laptop still works
why would that be impressive?
there are laptops from 2006 that still work and preform fine today.

Wat

OK, I'm talking about footprint. You know, like what is your gas milage and how far wegoin

At the end of the day, if all you need is more resolution, you consume a large bit of power.

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this is biggest rip of ever, they are still selling thos shitty screens unless you pay 700euros atleast, then if you want decent cpu its atleast 800euros, and with decent gpu atleast 900euros, now if you want decent build quality it goes to 1000euros.

tablet + keyboard cover: 600€
same processor in laptop: 1000€

>buy old thinkpad
>upgrade it
>get a good laptop for 1/4 of the price of a new one

wrong

desu i think that 1440p should be the standard resolution for laptops and phones in general. It's like a sweet spot between good resolution and graphic utility

Should have bought a Mac

buy old macbook
dont upgrade it
install linux on it

dang, you got linux on 4k screen

>It makes no sense why laptop specs are so underwhelming still.
Probably it makes sense when you consider that people who buy them don't really need them for anything else than web browsing, so it doesn't really make a difference for them, and the price variations are due to minimal differences in specs that are there just to justify the market segmentation.

I was looking for a Facebook machjne for my mother and there's nothing that can be considered half decent for the price. I recently saw that Mediacom is going to sell a line of ultralight celeron/atom powered laptops with 1080p screens, 8000~10000 mAh batteries, and small internal flash memory for roughly 200 bucks. Atom and celeron are shit, but if browsing is all the use they'll face, they might be good products after all at a somewhat honest price.

Refurbished ThinkPad L or T series.

Where's the advantage in buying an old refurbished laptop?

Price

How much can you save anyway? A few dozen euro, and in the meantime you lose all the warranty and get something that isn't even in mint factory conditions.

Where's the advantage in buying a supercool device that doesn't work properly?

A lot, and mine was like new.
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wait for raven ridge

how?

Maybe this is a US thing only, because I can't find it in Europe.

Pic related is why.

I imported a refurbished T460s from the US to Europe

No competition in the market so intel and nvidia can overprice parts

>long costly shipping
>custom fees and delays
>22% VAT added on the total of the costs (meaning shipping is included in the calculation)
Madness.

still cheaper than buying used in Germany
VAT was 17.5% because an American friend forwarded the package for me, declaring it as a gift = 1.5% VAT discount

Shipping wasn't too expensive. The T460s packaging is compact and light

1080p 200% scaling still looks sharper than 738p native

Well, I mean, my ThinkPad has a 1080p screen, 16GB RAM, and an Intel i7 CPU, but it's not exactly good for gaming. 256MB Intel GPU. Good for GNU/Linux, crap for gaming.

It's also thin, BTW.

It's not a placebo if you do like i do and watch the screen one inch from your nose

It was on sale. Regular price was 450 or something. The build quality isn't the best and I'm not a fan of the screen, but the actual parts are great for the price.

Is this the new pasta?

>Getting shit done on a 1366x768 display
Protip: playing minecraft isn't getting shit done.

I remember a lot more laptops having 1080p screens a few years ago. Now that the thin meme and cheap as shit laptops have saturated the market 1080p screens are a luxury again.

you're a retard and probably underage if you dont know that they depreciate a shit tonne, never buy a brand new laptop

lucky man! yeah i think it's impossible to get good colors for under 800$

Refurbished ThinkPad with IPS panel

>no decent laptops under $2000
From what kind of a shithole are you m8?
Most solid laptops are around 1000$ (i7, 16GB ram, 1TB+256 SSD, metal chassis, FHD screen or higher).

Also the point of a laptop is to be portable so the only things that should matter is that it has a good CPU, huge battery life, a decent screen (no need for a 4K) and build quality. Everything beyond that is desktop territory.

One thing I think isn't mentioned enough is how laptops all use 256GB SSD's now.
I remember my shitty 2008 C2D laptop having like 256GB on a 5400RPM HDD, and I ran out of space. It's been 9 years, 256 definitely isn't enough now. It just feel like insult to injury, spend $1000 on a laptop and you still need an external drive.

I got a Gigabyte Aero 14 for the equivalent of 1600USD (Canadian prices are high)
i7-7700HQ 2560x1600 14 inch display 1050 Ti 256GB M.2 SSD (Yeah I know GPU and SSD are garbage for the price). Huge battery life (6-7 hours) very thin and weighs around 1.9kg (as much as an X220) Keyboard isn't complete garbage but trackpad is pretty meh. Build quality is sturdy except for screen area which is kinda flimsly. Much less buyers remorse than when I bought a T430 new for the same price like an idiot.

2560x1440*

Then how come a lot of phones are able to power their own screens on 5v? If you say it's because the screen is smaller, congratulations, you've just played yourself and are implicitly agreeing that pixel count isn't a direct correlation to power consumption. If that were the case, how hard would it be to fit 1080 horizontal lines on a 14" screen?