only you can post here if you live in a shithole
HERE
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thanks eu
spain is good
i live on 2000€ a month in a latin american neighborhood in a 30sq meter flat but ok spain is good
what?
you win 2000/month ?
>i live on 2000€ a month i
ahhaha really?¿
hello guys
Hello my fellow first world friends how do you do?
>somehow manage to fuck your life up when you have 2000€ a month
Utter failure of a human is what you are.
before taxes retards
incluso asi, si cobras 1600-1700 limpios es un sueldazo. viviendo en una ciudad pequeña vives como un rey con ese sueldo. si tienes la mala suerte de ser madrileño pues 600-700 se te van en el piso, pero incluso asi con 1000 euros limpios para gastos no se vive mal. eres un poco quejica
>b-before taxes, r-retards!
Not only should you have told us so, but even after taxes, you are on 1500€ at least, you utter failure of a creature.
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Hello friends
2000 euro a month is enough for a single person even in Germany, retard.
And, yes, I am talking before taxes.
im not going to be happy just because there's people making less, look up salaries in northern europe
also my neighborhood is full of immigrants
Also, how bad is Spain actually?
Are there homeless or even underfed?
what if i told you im a software developer?
>Are there homeless or even underfed?
yes
>rich people complaining about being poor
This is what's wrong with Spain.
maybe the problem are the ones who settle for what they have
>Spanish flag
>preoccupied with shit
Spotted the Catalan
Apparently yes but you barely see them.
>even underfed?
maybe in some regions like andalusia or extremadura with their 30% structural unemployment
i dont know, i think no one should actually starve in this country. there are homeless people though
>want a northern european salary
>bitch and moan when politicians try to push for northern european economic and work policies
I hate my countrymen so much
You can have ambitions in life without being a whiny bitch.
Heeeey)))
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Thanks for all the answers. I guess you are still Yurop, asking whether people are underfed may be the wrong question ... But then, you have one fourth of your people unemployed and probably another fourth in a slave job.
What do these do for a living?
except those regions are literally on welfare so they don't all go to the north
not me
well the eu cucked us out of a solid industry and i have friends who got a masters and have literally no hope for a job because their field of work just isnt developed here, thats pretty bad imo
ironically i am not catalan
Another thing I noticed about Spaniards is that they always like to point out how another region is even worse. That is ridiculous, as if the deaf laugh about the blind.
al menos vosotros cabrones tienen clima bueno y no tenéis que pagar por calefacción
>well the eu cucked us out of a solid industry
yes they did it, now falangists is growing becuase Franco created a good industry and when spain joined in EU literally they destroyed it
lel
You were meme-ed into believing that only by accepting Third World labor conditions, zero unemployment benefits and miserable salaries, you can be successful.
You know that Germany, France and Scandinavia have some of the most generous welfare states and highest wages in the World?
pagamos por aire acondicionado...
spot on. and people in this regions actually get salaries for nothing to prevent literal chaos since there can be up to 50% unemployment, they actually live better, all day on the beach as we speak
>look up salaries in northern europe
Yeah, and look up taxes, you dummy.
>You know that Germany, France and Scandinavia have some of the most generous welfare states and highest wages in the World?
keep calm i lived in your country and people there is a bullshit.
not all is money
>y no tenéis que pagar por calefacción
What? We do have to pay for it when it's cold.
you may not know but in here we pay taxes twice. the salary we count as before taxes is actually after taxes too, and then you pay other taxes again and that's what you actually get, look it up
>look up salaries in northen europe
oh man, but you have too look prices in northen europe too. In sweeden you pay 12 euros for a coffe and a orange juice. here you pay 2,5.(for example)
the salary is not all. 1500 euros in spain is like 3000 in sweeden or norway because here all is cheaper.
>full of inmigrants
with 2000 euros salary you can live in a good neighbourhood if you can.
>also
you are fucked because you are madrileño. In other ramdon city of spain (not barcelona or bilbao too), you live like a king qith this salary
What is so radically different about German people?
fair point but i honestly didn't find much that was affordable, i obviously want to save up a third of my salary or so since the job market isnt exactly booming
>you are fucked because you are madrileño. In other ramdon city of spain (not barcelona or bilbao too), you live like a king qith this salary
the jobs are in madrid and barcelona though
Shithole? I should be the one leading this thread, for I am the epitome shithole. Fuck off, you first-world piece of gold ingot.
To comment on your dispute, here is the purchasing power comparison.
You see that Central Europe is indeed better off, but not by as much as the difference in real wages suggests.
when you buy things from other countries or travel it makes a difference
>the jobs are in madrid and barcelona though
claro coño, en el resto de españa nos rascamos los huevos xD.
Germany managed to preserve its industry.
Having these luxuries already means you are not that bad off.
> Moving to Spain in a month
Well fugg :DD
Yup. No clue how we did it with much higher wages, though. Our car industry still produces here.
Paying twice doesn't make us pay more, it just makes us have a more fucked up system.
The amount of taxes that you have to pay in Nordic countries is absolutely outrageous.
Just look at and try to tell me those numbers between Spain and Norway are that far with sincerity.
I'm not saying things are rainbows here, but claiming that the problems with Spain have to do with wages and not with other parts of the system is silly.
>What is so radically different about German people?
germans looked me over the shoulder, you treat turks like a shit and they were my only friends there
i lived in USA too and i want to visit again my home state
There's a lot of solidarity still in Spain. If you're unemployed to the point where you can even buy food, most probably someone in your family or maybe even a friend is feeding you until you find a job.
Most homeless are drugies t.b.h.
Eh, vacations are pretty cheap, but general living is still expensive af. Might be better for Swedes since they still have access to the EU market.
>tfw 1.5k month
>and the rest in a slave job.
ftfy hanz ibn hitler
i actually make around the same after taxes
>vacations are pretty cheap
>1500 euros in spain is like 3000 in sweeden or norway because here all is cheaper
BULL.
FUCKING.
SHIT.
unless you live in fucking extremamierda
It gets pretty cold in winter, you do need calefaction.
Of course, being a Balt I suppose you could come here and walk naked in the street even if it's January.
I live on roughly 2000zł a month which is about 4-5 times less than 2000€
So boo-fucking-hoo, you don't even know how good you have it there
why you euros love to shit your countries lol most of you should be grateful to even born there
I get paid 18k a year so no taxes
Good goy, keep assembling goods for German companies
pues en segovia nieva y el verano es insoportable
Daily reminder that bosnia is worse than most of africa.Youth unemployment is 58% which is the highest in the world.
I live in the capital, and we have no water after midnight. The air is very polluted, people get lung cencer all the time.
The streets are dirty, full of beggars and street salesmen. Fights and shootings all the time.
So remember, if you live in the shittiest part of your country, it's still better than bosnian capital!
no. i live in galicia.
i get 1200 euros month/
i pay 300 for a rent and left 900 to live. i live well. Not like a king, but well. if i could get 1600-1700 i would be literally the fucking king here.
only left the madrid shithole and find a job in other cheaper place.
I went to Warsaw and life was pretty cheap there, even compared to Spain. Specially houses or at least rent.
Not saying the other user isn't a bitch complaining for nothing.
this reminded me of a friend who got insanely cucked because he got an internship as an engineer at a car factory and they had him do excel work and shit all day because the real engineering is done in germany. hes getting a masters
gg eu
>I live in the capital, and we have no water after midnight
hwat
>I pay 300 for rent
I live in catalonia. The shittiest cheapest hell hole I can find is literally 500+
Of course everything is also expensive as fuck.
Yep, water reductions. Our water supply infrastructure is fucked, so they have to shut down the pipes so we can have water in the morning. I swear, we were better off during the war.
Hello
>300 for rent
How much space do you get?
lel
Never knew this is possible anywhere in Yurop. But then, Yugos are not really Yurop.
>>only left the madrid shithole
Why would anybody leave the best place in the world?
unfortunately i dont see falangists growing
What do you work as? I work as a cleaning guy because i dont have anymore then a high school education and i earn around 3500€ before tax and ~2500€ after. Still i think you're richer then me because evrything is more expensive here.
>cleaning guy
>3500€ before tax
My late grandpa made that much as electrical engineer.
software developer...
i dont know who's richer, if you can afford a small flat with all typical commodities (air conditioner, big tv, internet...) and save a third of what you make, you're like me or even better even though you're a cleaning guy (no shame in that)
50 metrs aprox. one salon-kitchen,one batrhorm and two rooms
>i dont have anymore then a high school education and i earn around 3500€ before tax and ~2500€ after
really makes you think
How are typical Spanish flats like?
Friendly reminder that while we are economically dependent on you, you are also quite dependent on us. Wez the biggest of your Eastern trade partners an shiet.
Btw stop bulding Nordstream or Polen will join ISIS
just renovated in my case
Your shittiness are nothing compared to us
Then we are about the same. My aparment is about 35km2. I use the "housing cooperatives" washing machines because they are better then what i can buy and i drive a nissan leaf since i only live in the city. I have no need for a AC since its never too warm or cold in my aparment.
I am surprised that Spain is not anywhere to be seen. Aint they supposed to buy our goods, since their own industries got rekt?
well..50-60 metres. one kitchen, saloon, two rooms and a small gallery
tell us about it, little azn
Breddy gud, for 200 euros I lived in a decent flat with a kitchen, large living room, washer/dryer and 2 balconies. I pay twice a much for a hovel here.
you live a lot better then because i dont have a car, i dont know how much they cost to maintain but i probably wouldn't save as much
Charging electriacl cars are free for now. An still electricity are cheaper then fuel.
>no age of consent
>druggies dying every day
>sucking China's dick
>get called an antichrist if you tell a Jesus joke etc
wtf identical flats here cost the same and the pay is like €600/month
>Charging electriacl cars are free for now
thats fucking awesome tBh
We do, it's just that we don't make that much money to you anyway.
how much cost fuel here? you literally shit oil, fucking snowniggers, it must be chep there.
here is 1,10 euros /litre now.
All self hating cucks should be hung