Is anyone actually planning on using Ubuntu 17.10 when it drops on october 19?
I like everything about it EXCEPT the Dynamic transparency. When you maximize a window, your panel loses most of its transparency and it looks bad.
And the top borders clash and look really ugly too.
Aesthetic problems, sadly. Doesn't look as nice as Unity ...
If you're going to use Ubuntu make sure it's an LTS release, that means 17.10 is a pass, so it 17.04 for that matter.
LTS or nothing.
Not sure if bait but 16.04is latest LTS and 18.04 will be the next one.k
I'm on a extremely comfortable Debian Stable setup with i3 but I'm really tempted to switch to Ubuntu and just roll with the defaults.
If only there's unity desktop.
I'm looking forward to how wayland will be on ubuntu 17.10
I'm waiting for the next LTS. I wasn't going to, but it still looks rough as fuck so if I did switch I'd stick with unity anyway so what's the bloody point.
Actually, depending on how 18.04's desktop turns out I might stick with unity anyway. It's still being supported right?
I must ask: why?
I get worse performance on Gnome + Wayland than I get with Unity. Gnome is really that terrible.
>that shit on the side is still there
No, waiting for OpenSUSE 15
There is though, apt install unity-session. It's just not default.
I honestly don't know. New Ubuntu looks extremely comfortable. It's actually doing good things for GNOME and the desktop looks (and probably feels) extremely polished. Even more so than MacOS. It seems like a good distribution to get shit done with, stick with and never worry about setting anything up again.
>inb4 autistic screetching about "nothing being more polished than macos"
I have a macbook pro with macos as the operating system and it doesn't feel polished at all. Global menu is nice but besides that, the UI is not that unified and the titlebars/traffic lights are all over the place, many programs have the older mac look etcetc.
I like everything, but...
>less features than Unity
>Gnome 3.26.x crashing when display turns off
Probably gonna install it though.
daamn, these guys made the most good looking Linux DE to look like shit.
>this panel on the left which doesn't correspond with anything
>this uncentered titelbar + centered clock
And there I was, thinking that once this shitty botnet with this shitty compiz called Unity will die - I will switch ti Ubuntu. Fuck it, I stay with Fedora. It's not great but at least it has non molested GNOME out of the box.
why do you use a server distro at home?
>unironically waiting for brokenSUSE
I'm currently using 16.04. I should be better at updating, since last time I did a distribution update I was using 12.04
I don't understand in which world this much wasted space on window decorations and top panel is acceptable. You can shrink the dock on the left quite heavily but the rest is still huge.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
So...uh....ya...programming....hmmmm....wait...ummm linux...or as you fucking ungrateful fucks are supposed to say GNU/linux cause Torvalds is my bitch. Literally. Not only does his piece of shit kernel rely entirely on me, but I have repeatedly sodomized him in a display of dominance....nothing gay....just a pure show of power. When we fucking meet in person that little faggot doesn't reach for a handshake, no he fucking knows better, he fucking turns around, bends his little obedient faggot ass over and assumes the fucking position while fucking begging Jesus for a big load.
So the proper term is GNU/linux. If you need any reminders just picture the slash as my cock tearing Linus Torvalds' asshole apart. Why do you think he walks like such a little bitch.
Now onto pronunciation. The proper way to say it is guh-noo. Repeat the fuck after me guuuuuhhh-nooooo. Say it any other way in my fucking presence and get ready to have your fucking tongue cut out. Not that you should be speaking in my presence anyway. Read my article on text editors to see what happens when little fucks speak to me.
GNU is my gift to you mortals fucking cherish it. Its fucking free and always will be. Because I am fucking Jesus and you are my fucking sheep. Now fucking eat your grass like good little sheep and fucking follow your glorious shepherd to a jewless future. I am Richard Jesus Stallman. I am Fucking God.
Richard Jesus Stallman
Shepherd of a bunch of fat idiotic beta manchildren. The fucking future of mankind. Hopefully the nukes fall soon.
This is what I don't like about GNOME. So much space taken
Why has no distro fixed those disgusting title bars by default in 2017? It should look like pic related by default tbqh
I'll be able to switching back to Debian soon , heard the ryzen doesn't run like shit on Debian like on release.
>Is anyone actually planning on using Ubuntu 17.10
Yeah because they have the best packages, fonts, and default install of any distro. But I'm not going to use Gnome 3. I will use LXQt probably. Using Unity now but it pisses me the fuck off.
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I cant believe they managed to come up with something that looks even worse than Unity. baka, canonical. baka.
So, they've discontinued Ubuntu Gnome for this shit..?
Gnome extensions are blocked now too. Ahahahahahahahaha
wtf? Really?
What the fuck is the point?
Not true from anything I've seen. They block extensions which are from different minor shell versions and they wanted to block extensions but they haven't yet.
Why does gnome look weird in that pic?
Where is the UI for installing extensions? It's not in the Gnome Tweak Tool anymore.
You have to install their firefox extension and install them in your browser using the Gnome extension website. It's retarded and all extensions are buggy.
Depends on your needs but the recommended versions for most users are the LTS versions. I would recommend to use ubuntu 16.04 LTS as the main OS and to try 17.10 on another partition or a VM. Just my humble advice.
fucking hell I hate that too. Gnome is utter garbage. I hope unity will still be supported and developed
I'll give it a whirl in VM, consider it a tech preview for 18.04.
>And the top borders clash and look really ugly too.
Thank Canonical for their shitty gradient theme. Try out Ubuntu Gnome Edition.
point your chrome or firefox to extensions.gnome.org
I've totally lost interest in desktop Linux: it hasn't improved in any notable way in a decade, while OSX has continued to press forward to near perfection, and Windows has fixed at least some of its glaring flaws.
t. used to use Linux full-time in the last 90s/earth-2000s, then dual boot with OSX for years using Linux for a lot of stuff, and more recently not at all since there's literally no point.
I suspect it's because all the corporate money has come out of desktop Linux: the kernel continues to evolve and improve, but the DE's are stuck in the 90s.
Gnome is pretty great when it isn't covered with Ubuntu feces. It just has a few small flaws that can be fixed with extensions.
1) thicc title bars : No Title Bar (when maximized)
2) tray icons in bottom left : TopIcons Plus
3) per-app alt-tab : AlternateTab
I set my mom up with a Gnome 3 Ubuntu box (locked down for simplicity, just ran a browser and videos). It totally broke - often wouldn't get into X - with nearly every update, always for different reasons. Linux is a complete mess.
I'm super happy with Unity at the moment. Gnome is 'meh' to me, but I'll switch maybe 4-6 months after 18.04 LTS comes out probably.
There is gnome extensions that fixes this. It took me like 30 secs to search and install it.
xubuntu sure. xfce is a good de. gnome? nope.jpg.
>why do you use a server distro at home
Extreme stability. I have zero need for anything newer than what Debian 9 offer so why not? If I ever do, I can just use backports or switch to Testing. Debian is the most comfy distro out there and there's nothing wrong with Debian Stable. I used to run Arch but I realized I did not like the constant change/updates, so now I'm just sticking with Debian and upgrading every two years. Meanwhile, I don't need to mind my system, I can be productive or do whatever I want.