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Whats the best E-reader ?
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I just got an H2O v2 today. First thing I did was take it into the tub: worked perfectly (I don't understand how the touch screen doesn't freak out when it gets water on it but it works fine when wet).
...re: the best, the Kobo Aura One is the best without a doubt, but the H2O is close for a lot less money.
They are all near identical, honestly. It's really hard to go wrong.
There's differences in DPI. They don't really matter. I have a Kobo Glo HD, last I heard that one has the highest DPI around and I likely wouldn't even notice if it were slightly lower. It just doesn't really matter for text. You're fine with reading Sup Forums on a 1080p 24'' screen - yeah, any e-reader has a far denser dot pitch.
The only thing I dislike about this Kobo is how difficult it is to set backlight brightness at exactly 1%. It oscillates between 0% and 2% and it's extremely hard to nail 1% because my fingers are not tootphicks. I need that 1% because when I use the backlight, I like it to be as dim as possible. If I turn it off during the day, I have to set it to 1% when I need it again. So I just keep it on most of the time, unnecessarily lowering battery life. If this resonates with you, you're gonna hate the thing.
Anyway, these are very simple devices for a very simple purpose. Find the one that's the right size for you and that's about it. You can always google to see if there's something the manufacturer somehow fucked up about the model you like just in case. Not very likely though - and if you find something that annoys you, it will probably be something completely obscure like my issue which you'd never hear mentioned in any review or forum discussion.
Also, avoid anything with a glossy screen, that's just fucking stupid. Half of the fucking point of these is that you can read at broad daylight at noon with the sun actually improving readability rather than hindering it like it does with LCD screens. A glossy screen gets in the way of that point by introducing completely unnecessary reflections. Also, with a glossy screne, there's the potential for annoying microscratches, depending on the quality of the glass.
you just posted it lmao
wait i thought that was the kindle e reader, not sonys but kindle e reader is cheap and nice quailty.
What puts the new H2O and One a step ahead imo is the colour-balance shifting (i.e. f.lux) in the front-light. Makes reading at night much much nicer.
I used Flux for desktop for quite a while and I liked it at first. In time, I realized it's just not all that. Perhaps due to the whole blue light peak inherent to LED backlights used in LCDs or something. Ereaders also use LED backlights, so I don't expect that would change much. Can't knock it until I try it though which won't happen any time soon because e-readers are simply not sold in my country. Not very likely I'll run into the latest kobos, let alone have the chance to try them.
Would be really cool if it indeed does reduce eyestrain.
kobos are better than kindles
any electrophoretic screen is fragile low-contrast crap which is only useful for low power consumption and reading under sunlight
Boox
>(I don't understand how the touch screen doesn't freak out when it gets water on it but it works fine when wet).
i think h2o is infrared touch screen instead of capacitive, which would be more prone to the freakout effect
>avoid anything with a glossy screen
matte screens aren't any better, they still glare a lot
what's even worse for indoor conditions, the glare is huge compared to glossy screens
paper is and probably will always be much better than any display
Getting rid of the blue light / shifting to orange, even if it doesn't actually improve your sleep (almost certain it does), is just plain nicer to look at and easier on the eyes at night.
My ereader was the last device I used that didn't do that automatic white-balance shifting at night (even my TV does), so it's nice that it now isn't jarring against everything else.
More reasons
I owned a Kobo Glo and Glo HD before, both with IR touch, and they'd spaz out if anything got on the screen. Even a fly landing on the screen would turn pages, and any water would make them unusable. With the H2O they've clearly done something in software that it ignores what it thinks isn't your finger, yet still allows what it thinks is your finger to operate it.
but perhaps the most compelling reason
Glare is really not huge, I find it doesn't bother me at all on my Glo HD. I barely noticed it at first, now I don't notice at all unless I really look for it.
And I don't notice any drop in readability or increase in eyestrain compared to paper. It's obviously not like paper, it's more like reading something printed on matte plastic. But there's nothing inherently inferior about that unless you really get off on paper and you like the smell of books and the rest of all that faggy stuff.
I do notice the convenience of not having to turn pages and not having to keep my fucking knee on a fat softcover to keep it from shutting close.
A real book.
Oh yeah, that. Sometimes it (glo HD) will even pick up my finger levitating close to the screen. It can be slightly buggy and turn two pages at once, but it happens extremely rarely. But even if it didn't happen, I'd still have OCD issues where I imagine I skipped a page. It would really help if the page counter reflected the page as defined by what I see (if it were dynamic and take into account font size) rather than how the epub file defines the page. The page counter is useless as it stands.
>Glare is really not huge
it's huge and distracting
the paper™ doesn't have that problem at all
>And I don't notice any drop in readability or increase in eyestrain compared to paper
seriously?
eink is much grayer than some good paper, or much less contrast when frontlit (unless it's the direct sunlight)
just put a good printed book aside for comparison
Use progress by percent read, which makes way more sense for an ebook.
Paper books are over-rated,
I definitely don't miss having to constantly re-position my grip as I turned pages. Especially annoying when laying down while reading (in bed, at the beach).
Plus front-lit ereaders blow paper out of the water for reading in the dark/dim light.
Of course I notice the reduced contrast, it just doesn't translate to more eyestrain and reduced readability. At least in my case. I really don't miss printed books at all.
I really hate low contrast and shitty blacks on desktop monitors and I miss CRTs every day, but that's a different purpose and a different story.
As for the glare, it will vary between models. It's really no issue whatsoever with my e-reader.
I actually do, but it's not sensitive enough to pick up every page in a long book, so it defeats the purpose. I just really want to know I've only progressed a single page to shut up the OCD. Chances are it would still get triggered though, it is what it is. And I'm not really interest in how close I am to the end. I actually prefer not to know that in particular.
I hear kepub files take care of this though.
>eink is much grayer than some good paper
What kind of books are you reading with bleach white paper? Most books I've seen have coarseish yellow paper, which winds up being the same contrast but a different color.
and ips and amoled blow eink out of the water for everything else than reading under the direct sunlight
he's referring to printed text, not the paper.
pretty much every quality printed book I have is whiter than carta in my kobo
the paper too, it's whiter under the same lighting
Not a kindle
can't even completely turn off the backlight when you're reading in a lit room or something, so it's always draining the battery.
>the paper too, it's whiter under the same lighting
well that just doesn't matter at all. I understand grievances with dimmer text even if it's no problem for me, but e-readers are definitely white enough. I don't think the slight tint/grayishness affects contrast with the text in an appreciable way.
Wait what. That can't be true.
it's a feature, it's there for being able to turn the frontlight up when it's dark, since it doesn't have physical buttons for the frontlight
the lowest setting is so dim that you cannot read even in a pitch dark room
the drain is close to 0, compared to other drainers such as CPU or page turning
Makes sense.
Although I believe the newest readers have ambient light sensors so they can adjust the light automatically.
>I don't think the slight tint/grayishness affects contrast with the text in an appreciable way.
huh?
the contrast is literally defined as the ratio between the text and background albedo
the whiter/blacker they are, the better
this can be demonstrated by the poor contrast with frontlight on
>weeb electricity for dummies
My man
t. Boox M96 owner
>the contrast is literally defined as the ratio between the text and background albedo
I know that, that's why I mentioned that the screen is white enough to a degree that being slightly whiter to match paper would not be an appreciable increase in contrast. The text would still be grayish on a truly paper-white background. For a noticable increase in contrast, a whiter background would not be enough, the text would have to be blacker.
Though as I said, contrast is fine enough as is in my opinion.
I'm looking at their website. It's sorta' neat they run Android, but isn't Android slow as fuck on this class of hardware?
Where is anywhere are Onyx readers popular BTW? I assume some weird countries in Europe.
Definitely not the Sony in your picture. I had the PRS-T1 and it shit the bed. Hard locks for no reason and requires disassembly to manually pull the battery and get it to work again.
I want to get another e-reader someday.
I was really looking at the M96 but wanted the N96 since it was an updated version. But the seller was out and I had to get the stylus only backlit model. The backlight is super nice to have but there's been a few times that i've misplaced the pen and i'm SOL.
I mean it's not as fast as a mid-tier smartphone but in reality the screen is fast enough for any kind of reading. All I ever read on this is PDF files which it's pretty much perfect for. I like the built in reader but the nice thing is that since it's Android, it can be loaded with other readers if you like. And you can load the Kindle app on it and read all of the books from the Kindle store. So essentially if you are already invested in the Kindle ecosystem you can transition pretty easily.
It handles OCR and scanned PDF's pretty easily. Plus options to crop and have special navigations for the pages is really nice. I like the autocrop since it gives you as much text/ graphics on the screen as possible and with little impact on the speed of page turns.
Not to mention that it comes with a stylus which allows you to mark on PDFs and create notes. Then you can export those notes and create a copied PDF with the notes and keep the original PDF clean.
As far as popularity, I have no idea. I know that the Onyx Boox line isn't really big in the States. Luckily there was a seller only a few miles away from me in Texas. No idea why he had them but I'm glad he did. This thing is changing my life.
are these fags really claiming to have invented e-ink
is this shit legal
who holds patents?
somebody send an email somewhere and let them know, this commercial is homo
>no glare
They claim and then proceed to show glare in the 3d mockup. And if that wasn't enough, they show real footage of nice, crisp close-up glare as the negro is scribbling on the thing.
I don't know. I have Sony reader (pic related) for like 4 years. It's alright. Don't feel like purchasing a new one yet.
...they didn't?
also, e-ink =! e-paper
e-ink is just a trademark by an asshole company which holds most patents on electrophoretic tech, you can thank them for not having any meaningful progress for a decade in this area
e-paper is a general term
It's the same with graphic tablets, where Wacom suppressed competition for years with its patent on a really basic idea, forcing the competitors to make their styli large and unwieldy.
Kobo Aura (pretty much any variety) with Koreader installed. EZ to install and much better if you have many books (has subfolders).
Nook simple touch.
Kobo glo/ Kobo H2O
Stay away from kindle.
Hopefully when the patent on e-ink expire in 2018, chink would start to mass produce cheap e-readers.
I have the previous verions (PRS-T2), but upgraded to a Paperwhite 2.
Hate the paperwhite, wasn't long before I switched back to my T2.
Are there some e-readers that are not (Amazon,NOOK,KOBO) and it's decently priced?
What sorcery is this?
I was told E-Readers are very bad with PDFs.
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Is anyone able to recommend a good sub 100 dollar e reader? I'm pretty frugal, but understand if I need to invest more to truly get a good product
If you want to modify it slightly, I'd recommend this one, Kobo Aura (edition 1 is link, edition 2 is fine too): r.ebay.com
Benefits: SD card slot, can install Koreader which is really good at rendering PDFs (which Kindles suck at) and has a bunch of other features (auto-cropping PDFs, access to OPDS catalogs and calibre catalogs, browse by folder on the storage instead of manually adding collections), reads epubs natively. Koreader is easy to install and FOSS. Took me about 10 minutes.
Cons: there's a version that is a bit better (but has no SD slot) but is also $40 more. Kindle Paperwhites tend to be cheaper used but can't read epubs (which is the format most books are shared in).
If you don't want to modify it, I'd probably get it anyway desu. The software isn't quite as pretty but it reads epubs. If you don't want to read epubs, I'd recommend a Kindle.
Migrating from a Paperwhite 2 to a Kobo Glo HD. What should I expect?
Also sell me on Koreader because right now I'm perfectly fine with using it as-is.
>Koreader
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>Migrating from a Paperwhite 2 to a Kobo Glo HD
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I want to get E-Reader.
How's the support for non-English languages between different e-readers?
>Kindle Paperwhites tend to be cheaper used but can't read epubs (which is the format most books are shared in).
Which really doesn't matter since you'll be getting Calibre which can convert on the fly anyway.
Why? They are slow and a meme. Buy a cheap android tablet.
why??
There's also an Android port for the original Glo (non-HD). Installed it back when I had one, played around for a day, and deleted it because it was pointless on an ereader: the stock firmware does everything I want.
>Battery life
>Cost/DPI
My Kindle's battery life is measured in weeks and thousands of page turns. It's 3 years old.
Those devices are basically identical apart from the firmware.
I would assume foreign languages/scripts are no problem for any new reader since everything today is unicode, although you're probably safer with a Kobo since you can install your own fonts for your particular set of moon runes.
>that first video
Holy shit. Well it's moot if it's a scanned PDF, but still.
How does the Ony Book Max Carta fare against a Sony DPT-RP1? They're both 13.3" and around $700. Anyone has had or used them both?
most compelling reason is to read lesbian loli handholding erotica 2bh
How many people put cases on their Kobo Glo? I had a custom leather cover for my Paperwhite which was great. I don't want to scratch my Kobo but I hear it's compact enough to slip in your pocket and the HD's textured back looks sexy as fuck and pleasant to hold.
I use it without the case only when I am at home.
Can confirm
At least as far as consumer e-readers go
I personally think that The Good Reader is GOAT, and the Sony equivalent is pretty close too, but they are expensive af BAKA desu senpai
I made my own case for h2o, I figured I’d prefer to read it without case but still didn’t want to carry it around like that so I stitched one from cheap felt
I've got the N96CML
Back light and touch screen.
It's buggy when reading big epubs.
Takes a minute to open the file after cold boot and half the time it'll bug out, forget last read page, and get stuck on the cover.
It bugged out and factory reset, now I can't change the "screensaver" or use google play.
Yeah I always do. I have two spare cases for Kobo Glos/HDs I need to sell (because mine broke and I got an H2O to replace).
I bought these from China they work fantastically although they tend to crack after a while (just order a couple): aliexpress.com
Dislike those covers. If I'm going to get something, it's going to be leather or felt. Also I don't t terribly like the ones that just sit inside strapped at the corners.
>cheap android tablet
Like what?
Most of those are running older versions of android, with poor specs.
How well does it do that?
Does it take long to turn the pages?
What do you use to read it with?
How do you make those CBZ/CBR? Do you modify it in any way?
Finally does anyone have the E-Reader infograph?
So? Do you need anything above Android 2.1 to read a fucking PDF file?
Most decent apps need at least android 4.3
Can you fit average Manga page, with readable text on Kindle voyage?
I'm on fence which ereader to get. I want it as small as possible, while being able to read Manga without zooming in.
I would wait, a new 32GB Kindle is coming out with a slightly bigger screen. On the old models 4GB is just not enough for comics, it gets filled really fast. If you need to store lots, the old Kobo H20 models still has micro slot and has a 6.8 screen which for me is a sweet spot.
Tablets are doomed to lag after a few months.
Shitty battery life.
More prone to be stolen.
And after few months older models will be obsolete with Android 8 pushing it's new API to be implemented by app devs rendering newer versions of apps available exclusively for newer models.
I'm referring to the line where they claim it's a revolutionary technology or something similar. Don't want to watch the thing again.
The absolute state of Sup Forums
What makes The Good Reader the GOAT? Or is it just a meme
>How well does it do that?
its better to read on that than any other device I have, no problems so far
>Does it take long to turn the pages?
no but I use a program called KCC(kindle comic converter) so it resizes the pages to fit my devices resolution, with no conversion you’d probably get mixed results
>What do you use to read it with?
it reads cbr on its own
>How do you make those CBZ/CBR? Do you modify it in any way?
kindle comic converter, you can make it epub or mobi and few other formats if you want too, cbz is simple and fast enough for me so I dont bother
sony reader, no doubt whatsoever
Never used a case on mine. The front bezels are scratched to hell, but the back looks like new.
Though keep in mind that I keep it face down when I don't use it. That's probably why it's so scratched up - as I pick it up, it usually scrapes a bit along the surface. I keep it face down to prevent dust from accumulating on the screen - that shit can be nasty combined with finger oil and the Glo HD is not the easiest thing to clean. As you clean it, over time, shit can accumulate around the bezels and possibly get stuck between the bezel and the screen.
The rear is a total fingerprint magnet and difficult to clean with all those holes. Yeah, it's kinda nice to hold, but so can be a nice case. I'd just get a case if I were you, there's no real downside to it. Or make one yourself, it's easy. You can put whatever material you like to hold on the back.
Yeah mainly I'm just being incredibly lazy and don't want to go through the process of finding (or making) the perfect case like I did for my Kindle. But it's obviously a necessary step if I'm going to be putting this thing in a bag and stuff.
When I got a Glo (original) back in the day it came with a Kobo-branded leather sleeve. That thing was great but can't remember what happened to it.
The snap-on hard cover cases aren't as nice to hold, but they protest the screen better so I go with that now.
I really hope the seller I'm buying from actually has a sleeve to go with it and just didn't tell me. Otherwise this one looks promising (I'd rather have one that opens up like a book, though, not to mention make my device look inconspicuous and less likely to get me robbed).
The ones that open like a book aren't very comfortable IMO.
A sleeve is ideal, since you really only need the protection when it's traveling not being used. Goes even moreso for the waterproof readers (H20, One, new Oasis).
So what I'd really like is a HARD sleeve... will let y'all know if I find anything...
You know, now that I think about it, it did become tiring trying to hold my Kindle with one hand when in its book case. I could fold the cover all the way around and everything, but even then I always ended up holding it in this awkward finger cradle which would become uncomfortable after a while because the Kindle plus the cover was a tad heavy.
>will let y'all know if I find anything...
Thanks.
I'm coming up empty. There are lots of leather sleeves, but all of them are fully soft so don't really protect the screen from cracking.
I end up removing reader from the hard flip cover all the time, which eventually causes the attatchment points to crack on the case which is why I keep going through them. Sucks I can't have both (a simple sleeve that's also hard over the screen).
...actually this design seems like the best, since the naked reader can be slid out easily.
Well in truth, I've never taken my Paperwhite out of its cover since I got it, but then again the Paperwhite isn't as nice to hold naked.
True. It's top of my list, I think. So long as I can fold the stand behind or slip the device out easily. It's only ten bucks.
Is there a E-reader with a black background and white letters?
There's a hack that allows that on Kobos, search for "kobo nightmode". Although with the way eink works, you basically have to do a full refresh every page when in white-on-black mode.
I used that reverse mode all the time on my first gen Kobo Glo, since the hardware light button made for an easy way to turn it on/off.
I have a pink prs-300 that works fine and nobody will steal it because it's pink.
when i vaped I could turn pages on my t2
>turning pages with your breath
That is patrish as fuck.
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