Is PC Gamer literally faking benchmarks? There is absolutely NO way an i5-8400 can get that close to an i7-8700K in gaymen. Their fake as fuck benchmarks even show the i5 matching the i7, but that is impossible, not even the 8600K can do that.
Why is no one talking about this? I'm not shilling the website, if anything, I'm calling them out on their bullshit.
its like the russian swimmers of cpu benchmarking.
Yes, we all know ryzen sucks ass
Yes. All benchmarks which show Ryzen to be slower than Coffee Lake were paid for by Intel. It's a massive conspiracy against AMD that extends across the entire tech industry. Only us true believers who actually own Ryzen CPUs know that it destroys any Intel product.
>average gaming
I wasn't fucking talking about Ryzen, I said that the 8400 can't possibly can't get that close to the flagship i7. I've seen many benchmarks that show the 8600K JUST managing to beat the 7700K.
whats up with the 2.8ghz base clock?
Literal retards.
Nah its just a good cpu. Cant blame multicore enhancememt being on either because it doesnt do anything on locked cpus
Here's their minimums
You're just a small town shill, living in a lonely world
(You) took the midnight train going anywhere
WHO exactly am I shilling? Nice bait
Every review I've seen has had the 8400 around equal with the 7700K. Keep in mind that the 8600K's boost clock isn't much higher out of the box than the 8400's, despite the hugely higher base clock. The 8400 sits at 3.8GHz with all cores loaded fully, which they aren't always going to be in gaming, resulting in fluctuations from 3.8-4GHz. The 8600K's single core boost is only 4.3GHz, so even lower with all cores loaded. There should be practically no difference between them out of the box.
/264
Show me an encoding bench. Ffmpeg or 264, dosent matter.
I wasn't even talking about productivity, if you can't see, the benchmark is about games. Why is everyone here retarded
Oh I'm sorry I asked about something other than some cherry game bench maybe Sup Forums is more your style?
>I'm not shilling the website
>I'm calling them out on their bullshit.
and out of all places you chose Sup Forums to do that
you didn't think this through op, did you?
AFAIK it's Intel's HT being retarded. Somebody should make a comparison of 8400 and 8700k without HT in games where 8400 was surprisingly good.
Niggers
How is the OP related to Ryzen you retarded spastic?
i5 has always been great for gaming, only retards pay the i7 premium for gaymen
is there a graph which shows how the cpu boosting works?
>quad core i5s
>good for anything
You have all of these saved? How many gibs of these do you have? Let's see your folders. This is fucking hilarious.
>i5-8400 OC
Wait, what? How do you overclock a locked CPU?
In the article they said they locked the base clock up to 3.8ghz and called it "oc"
>There are a few things you'll need to know before running out and buying a Core i5-8400. First, Intel is serious about locking down the clockspeed. I tried adjusting the BCLCK in the BIOS to see if I couldn't squeeze a few more percent out of the chip. Nope—nada! Any setting other than 'auto' or 100MHz failed to POST. But you're not completely blocked from improving performance, as you can raise the uncore clock from the default 2.8GHz to 4.0GHz and it did appear to improve performance a few percent.
>Is PC Gamer literally faking benchmarks?
yes
It's a hexacore you dumbass
All of the 3 CPU's I've mentioned are hexacore. What's your point? The i7 would still be miles ahead, but those benchmarks are shady as fuck.
>The i7 would still be miles ahead
Based on what? Your say-so? Post some alternative benchmarks which show the 8700K "miles ahead" if you're claiming those ones are fake. Burden of proof is on you, pal.
So OP asks about i5-8400 vs i7-8700K and pajeet fags who can't read cut and paste Intel shilling shadow marketing material. That's interesting and both sad and funny.
My say-so? Here's an example. Fake as fuck shit on the left, legit shit on the right.
Whew 8700k came out and cue the amdrones into full shill mode. There's no reason to buy ryzen anymore.
...which is not the point of this thread
>all thoses Ryzen's on the bottom
wasnt pcgamer that invented the term fps per dollar for cpu when ryzen came out?
LOL
almost every set of marks I've seen shows 1600x and 1800x rival i7 7700 at OC. I have no idea how this mark is so far off
All the ones with 1700x above 1600x are fake as fuck. For whatever reason the 16 edges over it in almost every category
Cmon, Op show us your shill benchmark folder, I need a laugh
op here. I'm not the guy so you fucked up
intel just sent them 8700k without disabled OC and disable HT, thats it.
Real 8400 will be around 20-25% slower.
>I said that the 8400 can't possibly can't get that close to the flagship i7.
And you were wrong. Now that i5s have 6 cores, we're back to i7s being waste of money if gaming is all you care about.
>10% extra performance for 100% more money
>in one game
>a game that's always benefited from higher clocks more than most
Is posting Far Cry: Primal numbers your next trick?
What you need to do is post at least ten more examples, so that your evidence has as much weight as the other charts, which are averages across a suite of games, rather than cherrypicked horse shit.
MCE doesnt effect locked cpus, dipshit. All the 8400 numbers are correct.
8400 really is just a poorly binned 8700k with 3mb of l3 cache and hyperthreading disabled
no one FUCKING KNOWS cause NO ONE re did the tests
I don't get why they even bothered putting an APU on it
Regardless, if you think I'm gonna go and save benchmark pictures just for you you fucked up. I've already seen other benchmarks from different sources and the 8400 just can't keep up. Feel free to believe what you wanna believe.
ye it doesm motherboard controls them amount of booost cpu can get, maximum being 4.0 ghz on all cores, while minimum 2.8 on all cores, literally they will pack complety rejects that will have trouble reaching 3.5ghz in 8400, all the best cpu's goes to to 8700k>8700>8600k>8400.
MCE is not new tou fucktard. Haswell and afterward have not allowed locked cpus to use MCE, before that it did work. Educate yourself before shitting up the board next time
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shit user its not like intel cant do the same just for the sake of benchmarks right? RIGHT?
>conspiracy
This is the current state of cryzen. I have the 8400, it performas as advertised with a fucking stock cooler
>Why is no one talking about this?
I imagine most of i7 owners are already cremated so you shouldn't expect any outrage from them.
can you post benchmarks please
remind me again why did intel paid the fine to amd?
>intel shill
i can guaranty you that 8400 on shitty ass cheap mobos wont perform anywhere near 8600 or 8700 level, intel sends them 8700k with disabled ht and oc, mask it 8400, releases only z chipset, so only premium mobos are released, all the the intelbabies rejoice and start buying up all the trash that 8400 will be
Why did you think pairing a non-K CPU with a Z370 was a good idea? Don't want to criticize, I'm sure you've got your reasons, I'm just curious.
Western civilization is ending and all you are doing is arguing over 5fps
Why do you think? Or are you as ignorant as you sound to the current situation with intel mobos?
My guess is he didn't want to wait for cheaper boards
MCE has been disabled on locked intel cpus since haswell. So you are still wrong. Google it.
I perfectly know that the Z370 mobos are the only ones available, but couldn't you wait for B360? Or get a K processor?
>he fell for the 16gb meme
fuck off intel shill
My motherboard is fucked up and has bad stutter and i had already waited months. 120 for that mobo is not a bad deal and i dont like cheap mobos. Im still going to oc my ram and gpu. I dont like overclocking cpus because its expensive and very time consuming, so i was glad to save my money.
Cryzen fans everyone. Ignore facts and promote conspiracy to justify a bad purchase
You actually need 16gb of ram to do java development lol
Ok then
you fucking retard my cpu oc's to 4.2ghz on all cores, and is extremely cool, you are fucking crazy if you think im justifying anything.
You are just playing right into jews hands
>muh jews
Cool go find a ryzen thread to post in if you are so secure about it. This is an intel thread
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Try being a java dev on 8gb of ram lol its terrible
>4.2
Lol ok
>intel shilling subsidiaries fake benchmarks
no shit
Says the AMDrone reposting the same 3 memes and questioning all benchmarks because their shit-tier processors are only good at live streaming Dota.
With 1 core enabled?
is this the housefire central?
Actually they suck at streaming dota as we
It's not fake you brainlet
Most games use 6 threads max.
So the i5-8400 gets perfectly utilized.
The same thing happens on games that use 4 Cores, if you disable HT on the 7700K you get more FPS. Good example would be CSGO.
RotTR is an exception and uses as many threads as it can, especially on DX12.
I am not a gamer, I don't even own a desktop but I'm sick of seeing gaming benchmarks from both sides, they're so fucking dumb. The outcomes change based on hundreds of small variables and not to mention the fact that game devs can literally just choose what GPU/CPU they want to make their games run best on.
The gaming industry is one massive fucking kikefest. If you want to pit two CPUs/GPUs against each other the only thing that is more or less consistent and reliable is synthetic benchmarks. What game devs choose to do with their code is nothing you can control, even if your GTX 2090 TTi is super powerful they could make it more suited for AMD cards, or whatever. Gaming on desktop is fucking dumb.
When my i7-4790k kicks the bucket, I'm buying AMD again since Intel wastes the money I give them on little faggots like you. Shouldn't have to knock the lid off of everything I get from them to get reasonable temps, and I shouldn't need a new socket every two months if I want a new CPU.
Hell, Intel can't even keep composure when another company competes. Coffee lake chips could brew coffee during a benchmark.
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How can amd even compete?
>continues to not answer the question and shill
amazing
here
What am I shilling for?
>heres a 3 year old game made by non-whites, and cant multithread intel does better AMD BTFO
gee my bad your just a impartial """""(((consumer)))"""""""" on Sup Forums
lmao what is this
>yfw you have to scroll down a whole page to see the first ayyymd CPU
>intelfags are retards
stupid
fucking hell dude, did they find her head?
Girl from highschool died like this by hanging out the window. Head hit a mailbox
lol
It locks the CPU at max turbo you knob.
Mce has been disabled on locked cpus since haswell. Google it, scrub. Mce has been around for over 5 years
fuck off to Sup Forums retard
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>cherrypicked horse shit.
Like Metro LL? I wonder if it's the same guy that always posts the GN Metro benchmarks, since it shows the i5's getting significantly lower minimums than i7's, despite it pretty much being the only game he tests that shows that. It's just like how whenever someone asks for evidence of Intel stuttering, someone posts GTA V, even though that's a well-known bug having to do with high refresh rates.
you're the retard. because he's not wrong.
Max turbo on 8400 is 4.0, yet, all core turbo on 8400 is 3.8. that's not MCE. If you want to argue Intel is conspiring to send reviewers well-binned 8400's, that's your right, but MCE is not the culprit.
Hmm