>While solid state drives are popular with home users, many large companies and web firms fill data centres with disks that depend on moving parts because, at high capacities, they are much cheaper and last longer.
Why should you bother with the SSD meme when all your writes will be used up in a few years? Also hard drive sizes are set to increase to 40 TB+ further making SSD the shittier storage medium.
>No technical data to support claim.
>Just reporters bullshit on third party claims.
Suure... Hard Drives are in no way more reliable then SSD's under the same working circumstances the SSD will always outperform and outmatch the HDD's.
If you're going to put the Long standing claim that because HDD's last longer then SSD's in the Datacenter enviroment you're mistaken to the fact that it matters that much.
Since Datacenters are always tossing drives out the curb.
Besides the only Ideal setup these days is a mix of Both Hard drives and SSD's to curb the costs and increase performance over all service platforms you're a fool to think otherwise.
Because running an OS on a HDD in 2017 is a painful mess. At my current rate my SSD should last at least 10 years. That's much longer than I intend to keep this PC.
>Why should you bother with the SSD meme when all your writes will be used up in a few years?
It will only be used up, if you write several gigabytes continuously every day for many years. That's not what most people do though, they write a few times and read many more.
Also, SSDs don't degrade in quality that easily. Even if you use up all your writes, it's still possible to read out the data (as long as the firmware isn't broken). Magnetic disks are vulnerable to wearing down as well, which is why all disks have a certain amount of redundant sectors that they write to for when disk sectors start to fail.
My operating systems load up fine on hard drives. Windows 10 takes maybe a minute to boot. Once it's up and running, it's smooth sailing.
If you a browsing here daily browsers are constantly writing to the cache.
Below pleb tier. Most plebs are running SSDs now with boot times 1/4 of yours.
>A minute
And loading certain programs can take almost as long. Like Photoshop, for instance.
I also use a laptop. The first thing to break is usually the HDD. They just can't deal with knocks and bumps. Not having to worry about that with an SSD is great.
HDD boot drives are for the poorest of poorfags.
>spinning rust
Yeah a couple of hundred kilobytes, sure. But my SSD's lifetime is writing 20 GB every single day for 5 years, which you're simply not doing unless you're streaming data continuously on to your disk.
Images can be megabytes. It's way more than that.
I'm careful and don't treat my tech like shit. I just don't see the point investing in an expensive ssd just for a little gain and much less storage. I rely mostly on storage over speed. My anime, porn and games go beyond 10 TB.
>my opinion is always right and people should choosing my way of life
this state of Sup Forums
just fucking get an SSD as a boot drive, it will improve your life and you don't even realize it yet
Thumbnails aren't, and also they're not the ones getting cached on disk. They're only held in memory, which I have plenty off.
If you never leave your basement, it's not hard to do probably. I don't treat mine like shit either, but HDDs still break from time to time. Also having an SSD greatly improves OS responsiveness. The laptop I had now came with a HDD in it. Soon as I dropped an SSD in it was like a whole new machine. Vast improvement.
No one is saying you need to keep your porn on your boot drive, user. That's not an argument. Even a 120GB boot drive should suffice, and they aren't expensive nowadays.
I don't see how you can compare responsiveness for the OS and programs with storage space. That has nothing to do with it. Even the cheapest 30GB ssd is a quality of live improvement of the highest caliber and that shitty thing will still last 10 years. Buy your shitty 10TB hdds for your porn and games and put high file read programs on the ssd. Like your shitty 50GB skyrim porn mods.
Just put browser profile to tmpfs. problem solved.
3 years and I haven't even reached 10% of my writes. It's my system drive and I haven't even disabled swap.
>storing huge amounts of media that don't even need such speeds will wear ssds down
Woah, no fucking shit.
Because,
>Sanic Speed Disk
HDDs should be used for storage, not stuff like your OS and programs you often use.
>a minute to boot
You realize SSDs arent crazy prices anymore? It's not 2010, you can pick up a 500gb SSD for the same price as a 3TB drive in most places.
SSDs are an order of magnitude faster, sticking to HDDs for boot/system device at this point is akin to sticking with a CPU circa 2006 vs 2017 because "i'm careful".
>fell for the SSD meme
>fell for the LCD meme
I'm buying used CRT monitor and a HDD again, fuck the memes
I'm also evuating going back to PS/2 mouse, I also suspect USB is a meme
What's this HDD > SSD flat earth shit?
Each have their place, SSD for OS/programs/caching (server grade SSDs in SAN/NAS setups) and HDD for storage.
Yes HDDS are getting bigger, yay!
So are SSDs.
I put an SSD, some extra RAM and new battery into a Lenovo Thinkpad X200, went from paperweight to useable laptop.
I only use laptops so, having HDDs over a solid state drive is retarded.
yes usb is the memest of all since it uses cpu polling.
CRTs have some disadvantages, let's say, glossy screen (not an issue for millennials), and Xray radiation.
they do provide true black unlike LCDs.
hdds aren't that good (latency, mechanical heads that fuck up) and we already used to write to flash chips many years ago on the 80-90's computers but those stored too little bits compared to hdds
Why do people still create these SSD denial threads, whats the point?
HDDs are still necessary for large data capacities, SSD for fast access.
SSDs actually last longer. The only reason datacenters do that is cost.
>too poor to buy enough ssd
>a meme posted on a BBC stub article is facts
I don't even know what other board to point you towards. Not even the poor fuckers on Sup Forums deserve you.
>1 minute
>PS/2
meme.
Microsoft Bus mouse for least meme.
>bumps computer
>loses data
Datacenters all use SSDs these days, though? I mean, here might be some cheap ones still running antique hardware because they can't be bothered to upgrade, but those are the exception.
online cold storage is usually HDD.
But more shops are moving that to the cloud anyway.
Using a HDD is like slapping on a turbo from a 16 liter truck engine onto a 1.3 liter car.
Turbo lag to hell and back again
>SSDs have a RMA rate of 0.1%
>HDDs have a RMA rate of 1%
What did they mean by this?
I had to start up preinstalled win10 on a 5400 rpm drive on a laptop I bought, after using SSD for only a month or so. It was unbearably slow at everything.
Fast boot. Just get one for your OS and use an HDD for everything else.
[Anecdotal Evidence]
I worked for a company (number one in its industry worldwide) and we had to keep meticulous records.
We stored everything on magnetic tape.
This was as of June 2016
yeah everyone knows the cloud is much better than both ssds and hdds
my mlc drive will probably outlast me
>tfw based NVMe SSD
You'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
>Why should you bother with the SSD meme when all your writes will be used up in a few years?
That's not true.
Look up tech report endurence test. An SSD would last more than 5 years on a normal usage.
Also, the higher the capacity, the lower the wear because of leveling.
1TB SSDs are affordable now.
Still use HDD for mass storage, obviously.
>a minute
JUST
Kill yourself nigger
No. Only datacenters using SSD are ones for high end stuff. For the vast majority, HDD are still the most efficient thing.
Large SSD will not make it to consumer level until China or another western company or Japanese companies start to invest more in their own NAND production facilities. Right now Korean companies have monopoly and they are all in the same league to artificially inflate the SSD prices.
If they release 5-10 TB SSD to consumer market, that means their means of business will dry up soon.
>Why should you bother with the SSD meme when all your writes will be used up in a few years?
SSD write limits are generally far higher than the failure point of an HDD now
That was only an issue in SSD's infancy
You're forgetting the extra 5 minutes after first logging in where every program takes forever to start
That's the biggest thing SSDs solve
>Windows
That's awful but then again it's not the drive's fault.
Well, I use one for my programs. Only gets written to when I'm installing something new or a patch, etc. That being the case, the write endurance will last a long ass time.
phoneposter or someone who doesn't understand the intricacies of the English language?
SSDS are good for write speed intensive processes like moving large files quickly, personally I use USB c to transfer files between my work and my home machine, correct me if I'm wrong but you wouldn't be able to take full advantage of USB c speeds with a HDD right?