What the fuck is with youtubers and complaining about demonetization and the "adpocolypse"?

What the fuck is with youtubers and complaining about demonetization and the "adpocolypse"?
Why are they allowing their only source of income to be youtube fun bux?
Why don't they have regular day jobs to support themselves with like normal people?
Why are some basically refusing to make videos unless they get paid?
What happened to uploading videos for fun?

I know a guy that have 150k subscribers. He's raking in nearly 90k a year.

I can't even begin to imagine what people made before the drama.

Google bought YouTube

There's an audience for it. That's the bottom line. If people are willing to give money to streamers/youtubers, you can't really fault them for taking advantage of that.
The whining is annoying though now that their silver spoon is gone

They do this every couple months. I enjoy their pain and i also enjoy seeing people point out youtubes problems.

>What the fuck is with youtubers and complaining about demonetization and the "adpocolypse"?

It's a source of income for them that had hardly any issues aside form copyright until maybe two years ago? And get it's getting worse because now people who aren't even making controversial content are getting demonetized.

>Why are they allowing their only source of income to be youtube fun bux?

It's like working a regular job. Most people only have one job or one source of income.

>Why don't they have regular day jobs to support themselves with like normal people?

There is not such thing as a "regular job," they're getting paid for driving users to YouTube's website which in turn generates revenue. It's a job that pays and if you can attract users it pay very well. They were making enough money from it before so they had no reason to have a regular job, now there's issues.

>Why are some basically refusing to make videos unless they get paid?

Larger YouTuber's threatening to do that has worked and has gotten YouTube to take specific action. YouTube is going to listen to someone who drives hundreds of thousands if not millions of people to their platform.

>What happened to uploading videos for fun?

Plenty of people don't make any money off of YouTube and upload for fun. This is a question that could really be asked of any job

>There is not such thing as a "regular job,"

Yes there is you fucking millennial faggot. Making videos for the internet is NOT a job, it's a hobby that youtube has been gracious enough to allow them to be paid for. Get a job like the rest of us, cunt.

Who is that semen demon?

It's weird that they expect to get paid for making videos, even though Google hosts their videos for free. I miss the times when Internet was a place to share stuff you created without expecting to get paid for it.

You sound envious because they aren't wageslaves like yourself

back to /r9k/, NEETcuck. Enjoy having the stigma of being a worthless leech for the rest of your life.

>they do something well
>they want to be paid for it
>retards still asking why they don't do it for free
Because this gives them the option of doing what they love for a living. It allows them to make more content, since they aren't pumping gas during the day.
It's like asking why someone would want to be paid to be a programmer when they started doing it for fun. What a retarded question.

The real question is why they aren't making a competing service where the content creators are the shareholders..

It is. I'm not sure what being a millennial has to do with anything. You are given money for services, like any other job. It may not be a job you respect but it is. I'd probably say what you're saying 10 -15 years ago, but it's a viable source of income nowadays. A job is a job man.

>Get a job like the rest of us

You sound so bitter. I'm not a NEET but goddamn, you're just looking for an excuse to look down on people. Why would you shame people for finding an easy/enjoyable way to make cash?

>they want to be paid for it

Wanting to and deserving to are two completely different things. They may WANT to get paid to make videos, but in no way is Google obligated to pay them if they violate their guidelines There is no official contract between Google and these youtubers, they're glorified hobbyists at best.

I really hope this leads to all the greedy jew youtubers fucking off the site so youtube can become a site for everyday people making unique content that stands out, rather than soulless clickbating shills.

>throw your life away like the rest of the low IQs
Ha. Pass.

Thus my statement about a competing service. There are enough big names at YouTube who seem unhappy about the service that they could potentially pull it off.
The biggest failing of their complaints is, as you say, the platform they use is private, and they don't have a stake in it.

>I should be paid to make about 1 hour of content a week, for which I have 0 (zero) costs

Nice molymeme, saved

>What happened to uploading videos for fun?
It's still there, but hosting isn't free especially for spam, that includes most of the youtubers.

Buying/renting video equipment which if bought outright all the lights, cameras ect., can quickly cost thousands of dollars. Rent, food, the needs of everyone else. I get what you're saying, but most people have some personality or group of people they enjoy watching, and you are usually not paying for it directly. You're paying for it be watching ads.

fuck me
That would mean Linus shill tips makes 2.5 Millions just from AdSense alone

>Buying/renting video equipment which if bought outright all the lights, cameras ect., can quickly cost thousands of dollars

Then don't spend thousands of dollars you don't have and are relying on a company, that has no incentive to buy them for you, to pay for it.

> Rent, food, the needs of everyone else.
There's these things called "jobs" most people get up very early to do, and don't get back until late at night, in order to pay for this.

What's up with all the reddit spacers in this thread? The site does all the formatting for you, kids.

>You are given money for services

Youtubers are not providing a service to youtube you fucking idiot, youtube is providing a service to THEM. Youtube is the one allowing these video makers to host their content on their site at no cost to them, while at the same time allowing the uploader to make money from the videos that they are hosting for free.
There is no express written contract between youtube and the content creators to make videos for the site. They are not employed by youtube or google, and as such, youtube is not legally obligated to pay any of them anything.

I always found it weird how they call themselves content creators instead of vloggers since that's what 95 percent of them do, and they got it down to a formula. Shitty intro with electronic music, cringey catchphrase to start and end the video, call to subscribe and donate to paetron, etc.

>Then don't spend thousands of dollars you don't have and are relying on a company, that has no incentive to buy them for you, to pay for it.

Again, this can be said for any type of job. Their incentive is to pay you so you can drive content. Just as it's your "regular job"'s incentive to pay you so you perform some task for them. You have to rely on someone to provide you with an income. Again if it makes you a good amount of money and is convenient then why not do it. There was no "threat" to these people's income a short time ago. That's just part of living and having a job. Shit happens and people get upset.

>There's these things called "jobs" most people get up very early to do, and don't get back until late at night, in order to pay for this.

9 to 5 does not make something a "job". You seem to not understand how the system works. You make something for someone they give you money. It doesn't matter if you're an astronaut or a plumber. Different types of jobs require different types of time and effort.


They're driving users to the site. If they didn't have people to attract users they'd be in the hole. And it's a cost to YouTube because the more people that use the site the more they're going to have to build infrastructure for their site. Whether that cost is a minimal one to them is irrelevant. It's still a cost. If I worked at a grocery store, I and the customers are using things that need to stay on for the store to function, and they're paying me to perform a task, and the customers are giving them money. Same concept except there's a contract involved. And you're right they are not legally obligated to pay them, no disagreement there, and it can seem entitled for a YouTuber to complain, but I do think it's pretty retarded how YouTube is handling the ad situation. Regardless of a contract, the content creators drive users. And without users YouTube wouldn't have shit.

You sound mad you can't get paid to play video games any more.

>it's like working a regular job

LEL
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in the not so distant future there's going to be one company that owns everything. it's going to be either google or apple. Then control and dictate almost every aspect of your life with GOOGLE BUX so embrace it because those days are long gone, never to be seen again

microsoft will be too busy doing their kumbaya save the world shit because their phones, devices and even OS' are shite.

How do you feel about youtubers pushing their Patreon pages?

I see reviewbrah do it every video now

>Patreon
I love when someone get idea for nice scam and then it turn into legit business model because there is this much idiots out there.

Why would you work a shit tier job when you could have your literal dream job? They aren't doing it because it's the easiest option, they are doing it because they enjoy producing creative content (and get paid millions while doing so).

Very esoteric way of looking at things. That's like saying being an athlete is stupid because FIFA or the NBA is "gracious enough" to let them be paid for it. If someone is good at something why not pay them for it.

>millions
only the best of the best get close to this

I like when there is whitespace between paragraphs. Makes them easier to read.

>That's like saying being an athlete is stupid because FIFA or the NBA is "gracious enough" to let them be paid for it.

No it isn't. Sports athletes sign legally binding contractual agreements with the sports teams that they sign to. The companies/agencies/etc that these athletes perform for are legally obligated to pay them for services rendered.

I've made this point numerous time but you seem to want to continue to ignore it. Youtube monetization is literally just youtube saying they're gonna let you have some of their advertising revenue if you have ads run on your video, its literally google giving out free money.

Youtube is NOT OBLIGATED in any way to allow monetization for anyone. It's no one but the youtubers fault that they didn't plan for the potential that youtube may some day stop giving them free money. It's their fault they decided to make what is at best a hobby into their full-time "career".

Yeah I know it's basically e-begging and I despise every "YouTuber" who does that, but how is it a scam?

ahahahaha get a real job fucking fag

If faggots like ricegum died, the world would improve because no kids would be distracted by that cunt. So the fact that youtube pays him to attract stupid kids to youtube should be tattoo'd on the forehead of every employee at youtube. That way they are ostracized forever in public. Actually, thats a great idea. We need to start tagging these techies who make money via bullshit so they cant slink about in real life spending their bullshit money.

>Why are they allowing their only source of income to be youtube fun bux?
Because they're good for nothing and never developed any real life skills.

>Why don't they have regular day jobs to support themselves with like normal people?
See above. They're low lifes. Without the internet, they would collect welfare or work multiple part time jobs to survive, or stay with their parents.

>Why are some basically refusing to make videos unless they get paid?
See above. They have nothing else to bring to society except playing clown to the masses.

>What happened to uploading videos for fun?
They never uploaded a single video 'for fun'.

I hope you die. I'm not joking. I honestly wish for your death and all those apologist millenial scumbuckets who commit in this 'Youtuber' personality cult.

I bet my ass you'd suck Pewdiepie's dick if you had the chance, right? Little shit.

>Making videos for the internet is NOT a job, it's a hobby that youtube has been gracious enough to allow them to be paid for
>it's a hobby that youtube has been gracious enough to allow them to be paid for
sounds like a career, actually.

>job = having to do something for a living
>career = doing what you love for a living

...

see

I don't agree with the guy you replied to, but honestly you seem upset. If you can't post a coherent reply why bother posting at all?

You're in the minority here, youtube dick sucker.

You'd only make 90k from 150k subs if you

1. had a patreon set up with ~2k/mo there
2. sold merch on the side (eg. clothes)
3. reviewed or featured products to advertise explicitly/implicitly that companies paid you for
4. amazon affiliate links

Your mom is paula dean

>youtube stops giving out NEETBUX
>Inturd shills stop poisoning the well
>Manchilds on Suicide watch
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Every tuber mentioning Patreon should be blacklisted for NEETBUX on the spot

time is still spent and that is a resource just like money you retard.

i think part of it also depends on how many videos are actually put out and how many views you get.

if you have 150k subscribers you are more likely to get non subscriber views just from beater search rankings and recommended video positioning.

>All these wagecucks whining that other people should get "real jobs" like them and be miserable
Do you people even listen to yourself? Who the fuck cares about what your job is, as long as you make money and you're not doing something blatantly immoral. (Hitman, white slaver, etc.) I'm not sure if you people are NEETs or just people with severe momy/daddy issues, but no one gives a fuck what your do IRL.

are they demonetizing everyone or just political people and people who film themselves gaming?

>buying a few random things from amazon
>wanted to do unboxings

It's retard not understanding freemarket, waaah why don't I get to do this crybaby bullshit. If you cry it shouldn't be making people money and that you can do it, cool go out and fucking do it and replace them. Not this it shouldn't exist and entertainment should only be chosen by the hollywood elite.

for 90k a year I would suck a guy off 4 times a day every day of the year, so I can see they must have been making double that, beforehand

Whole lotta faggots in here who don't understand capitalism and how you are paid accordingly to how the market views you. Why are hollyjews more legit than online content creators, this is just new age media and its currently going through a growing pain.

The biggest issue is nepotism in google and being political first, economic/business second. The share holders must be furious at them, they have committed grave business sin. The issue with youtube is that they are the video hosting for the world and there are stupid fucking pointless 10 hour videos no one will ever watch on there. So they eat that expense multiplied x1,000,000, they then have a growing unsustainable overhead due to being built to get big and not profit.

Traffic is worth money, every fucking medium traffic has been worth money be it television, radio, online radio, the intermission of a fucking aaa baseball game and whatever someone can get people to get eyes on so it can increase sales. The issue at hand is that google is abusing who gets to do that, due to political/morality standpoint opposed to being pure business and seeking to make profit.

It's meant to demonetize "controversial" or political content but the main issue is Google is using an AI for everything because they're lazy fucks. This means that a lot of innocent shit gets demonetized, and it's hard to appeal because Google has zero customer support. Unless you're massive and have a milion subscribers you're completely fucked when the AI comes for you.

>What happened to uploading videos for fun?
Well put it this way
If you meet a woman in a bar and she is gorgeous and you take her home and fuck her for free, why woulod you do that for ugly women who would pay you to fuck them?
Or put it another way. Fun is when you get free sex with a beautiful woman, work is when the only lay you can get is some butt-ugly fat bitch that pays you to fuck her. It may be undesireable but at least the money is useful to put a roof over your head

>Patreon

>$1 per month you get to see my videos before anyoone
>$10 per month you get the above AND get to suggest videos
>$25 per month you get the above AND I'll send you something
>$1000 per month you get all the above AND your personal videos! -> 5 people are actually giving this much. wat.

There was actually an r9k user with this reality and he got fucked up from it real bad lmao. His parents kicked him out for being a neet, his weird ass cousin took him in and forced him to succ every day a few times. I didn't want to believe, but interacting and reading the thread seemed very real. Hope that dude is okay currently, said he went to a halfway home or something like that someone found for him.

They were raking in cash for doing stupid shit. Who wouldn't want that to last?

That said, they should have known that it wouldn't last forever and planned for it.

>>job = having to do something for a living
>>career = doing what you love for a living
job = thing you're doing between other things you do
career = thing you're doing for your life

so it's not a career, since it's a dead end that's ending now

Nothing is forever and this looks like an ugly fuck up by google where they will attempt to remedy it. Traffic is worth money, always has, always will. I wouldn't be shocked if more creators went podcast/radio style and did ads before/starting in videos and then compensated by the advertiser per legit view on that video or affiliate code.

Youtube isn't a job, but content creator is a job, and I consider it a important job because I have extremely high requirements for hours of entertainment material. Content creators often spend their own money to make videos, at least many of the ones I enjoy watching, and if they can be paid because of advertisements I don't watch this is literally the absolute definition of a win-win situation. Only the most determined contrarian or someone who has some kind of pathetic Bjork stalker tier fan's grudge against a content creator could ever think otherwise, and it's funny how obvious which brand of retardation is afflicting different posters in this thread

i'd be shocked, because that would be forming >I wouldn't be shocked if more creators went podcast/radio style and did ads before/starting in videos and then compensated by the advertiser per legit view on that video or affiliate code.
i'd be shocked, since that kind of interaction would then be the level of effort required to run a business
and at that point, why not just do that part and forget the videos, and do business for the career where you'll have more opportunity and more free time for yourself

hey i was supposed to be pasting over that line damnit

>content creator is a job
>tfw my favorite content is a podcast by two hollywood writers who get sporadic writing jobs meanwhile no brain no talent kids of nepotism rake in the millions
>this is now a great time to plug hollywood handbook

>hollywood handbook is hosted by sean clements and hayes davenport
>i am the ad budget

Nice try, newfag, but you have just outed yourself. The actual oldfags know that what you refer to as "Reddit spacing" is actually something that has been common place on Sup Forums since 2006, at the latest. Check the archives for proof and remember to lurk more before posting some obvious bait, newfag.

Back on topic, yeah, YouTube sucks, and those who have used it as a primary source of income with literally no backup plan are just asking to get fucked hard and left to the fishes. On one hand, it kinda sucks because there are actual people on the site that do make informative videos and tutorials who may up and leave the site now, but if it also means that the worst "entertainers" on the site leave too, then by all means, I am for it. The thing is though, despite all their bitching, you just know all these "Content Creators" are going to stick it out and keep getting that fat Jew cock that YouTube is known to serve out to the cucks who are working their dime.

Businesses is businesses, if the YouTubers do not like that, well, hate to say it, but... there's the door, you know?

Their user base complained about having ads on YouTube period, but that was before channels with millions of subscribers was a regular thing. Cut to now, youtube has 2 different subscription services, stricter guidelines, and user base clamoring for ads to be on every possible video.
Oh and you know that video game fad from 2004? Playing them is a career now.

It’s insane.

I didn't even read the post beyond "wagecucks", Get a fucking job, you leech. No one is gonna defend you outside your little containment thread on /r9k/.

I think there is a problem with ads where people misplace/misuse them, 5-15 seconds before skip sure fine sounds fair. 2 minute unskippable ad for a 2-5 minute video, that's insane and most people would agree. I could see that being so for 30 minute vids if creators go way of television and design cuts/breaks where ads transition better, then be fine with that. Then with the closable banner ad hovering over a video, really no one will bitch about it.

Ad innovation/lack of judgement is what pissed people off, retards fucked shit up by taking pop ups too far, I have your info now, call this number, moaning porn ads and a host of other shit to make it intelligent to install an adblocker.

>it's hard to appeal because Google has zero customer support.
Na, it's pretty easy to appeal and you can get your videos reviewed within a couple of days.

The problem is that if the video gets demonetized shortly after upload then it will likely miss out on the majority of the views so you lose the largest portion of the revenue you would have made from it.

Any reasonable channel has other revenue streams but Youtube is still a source of income they don't want to lose just because an AI decided to demonetize their video during the time it would be most profitable.

I'm not. I just look down upon these masses of mindless lemmings worshiping some literal welfare candidate who makes funny sounds with his mouth. It's like you're surrounded by a whole generation of mouthbreathing ADHD kids, jumping in their underwear in front of Jewtube.