Was the death of GNOME2 the end of usable Linux desktop environment...

Was the death of GNOME2 the end of usable Linux desktop environment? Looks like GTK3 kills everything that stands in it's way.

What the fuck did gtk3 mean by this?

What did your GTK3 theme mean by that?

Yes the toolbars are mega sized. It looks ridiculous

Use a different theme.

Mate has been completely ported to gtk3, fyi
there's no need to choose gnome3 anymore

it was and now it looks like shit. No theme can save it.

xfce

GTK2 was the only reason I even used MATE, now I'm stuck with Xfeces

>switching from Gnome 2 to Mate makes slavrunes away from your computer
lol

I still legitimately don't understand how gnome team went from an almost perfect desktop de to an absolutely unusable retardation. Even unity is more usable than gnome 3

Only a ghetto nigger would use gnome, mate, or kde. White people use Cinnamon, blackbox, fluxbox, xfce, or lightbox

picture related - it's a Gnome user

>stuck
It's objectively better

What the fuck? Gnome 3 is literal perfection on any decent distro(Fedora). Everything is fully integrated and supported. Fuck you if you think I have to fiddle with configs for hours if I want my shit to work. Gnome 3 is the equivalent of Aqua on OS X.

They allowed women and sjw on the design team

I'm actually thinking about using gentoo and just compiling mate with gtk2. Not sure if thats possible for everything though.

the latest version dropped gtk2 support

Because they make software for the sake of making software. What would be the point of all those programmers if there was a skeleton crew just keeping things secure and rolling, improving efficiency, etc.? It's the same with KDE3 and how they have spent about 8 years now on rolling betas and "new frameworks" getting something as good as what we had before.

>It's the same with KDE3 and how they have spent about 8 years now on rolling betas and "new frameworks" getting something as good as what we had before.
What?

nigger

you mean that KDE3 (Trinity) is still usable today and not a meme?

Mate team made the classic themes look a bit more modern ;)
Or that's what I remember reading on github. It looks like ass now.

You can still install clearlooks-phenix tho.

You wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a GTK2 and 3 program if presented with one, you fucking retard.

>he doesn't use stock gnome3
pleb

try me, motherfucker

Which one is using GTK2, that you prefer that much?

MATE is the perfect DE.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

they are both clones of each other. they could be both gtk2, both gtk3, or one of each
however if i show you pic related it must be gtk2, because this can't be recreated in gtk3

Just use a WM like i3 or openbox or something.

So you can't tell the difference apart, just as I thought.

All of those widgets in your screenshot are available in GTK3. You have no idea what you're talking about.
And to answer my question from here , left is GTK2, right is GTK3.

I'm convinced both are gtk2 and I'm a gtk themer. How do you achieve such crude borders on gtk3? Unless, of course, the WM is not gtk based.

Which crude boarders?

>WM is not gtk based
The window manager, xfwm4, has nothing to do with GTK or any graphical toolkits.

Yea nvm I'm a tired idiot. If it was mutter the window corners would be way smoother with gtk3.

>environments
fucking newfag plebs

>standalone wm
fucking children

It's the superior way to compute.

xfce was and still one of the best no bullshit DE's on linux.
Also grownups use a WM, preferably with a programming language for configuration (see awesome,dwm,xmonad)

If you're using X, you always use a window manager, retard.

>floating wms
same as regular DEs but worse
>tiling wms
can be useful on a laptop
>grownups use a WM
same grownups that use Arch Linux?

>>grownups use a WM
>same grownups that use Arch Linux?
umad?

>same as regular DEs but worse
You mean better. I don't want bloated docks and retarded bars everywhere.

You can still use gnome 2. You just have to download the source and compile it yourself.

Just use Qt and KDE.
FEels goodman

At least you still have the normal titlebar and no hamburger menu unlike recent GTK3 trash

Both are absolute trash
The difference is that the GTK3 one can't be made to not look like an """""app"""""

learn2 xfce

>completely ported to gtk3

So what's the point of mate then?

>Also grownups use a WM,

lol, that's not how you spell osx