What's your excuse for not paying your 2%?

What's your excuse for not paying your 2%?

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war is bad m'kay

Greece doesn't count.
We'll get there in a couple of years.

>Greece doesn't count.
Why not?

If you kill your enemies they win

we spend 3% of gdp on defense pls gib nato

this 2bh

You mean America doesn't protect you people for free?

We are poor.

You're not in the North Atlantic m8

Why don't you establish SATO with Argentina, Brazil, Australia and Antarctica?

This and we should be neutral like austria

good idea brb

What is 2% of 10€, Nigel?

Do you not understand how percentages work?

2% of nothing is the same as whatever percentage we're spending right now

Why should Germany and France pay 2%?
They've got USA as their army and us as their buffer zone.

We should stop all funding and end treaties with countries that don't pay their share 2bh

When russia invades we should just let it happen to non paying nato countries

It was a joke on how greece has no GDP, Hans. If their GDP is 10€, then spending 2% is insignificant.

Retard

Look at the chart. Estonia has a much smaller economy than Greece. Estonia's budget is a LOT smaller than the Greek budget. But the user was saying Greece doesn't count.

If the reason was because they don't have much money, that poster would have mentioned Estonia.

Greek defence spending: ~€5 billion
Estonian defence spending ~€500 million (0.5 billion)

So that is not the reason. That's why I asked why Greece, specifically Greece, doesn't count.

comfy

We are also a poor country.

Fucking loser. Correct a perfectly well played "greeks are poorfags" meme with data and think you saved the day.

Your tendies are getting cold.

>finnish budget
>entire spending 2016: 54 billion €
>military defense spending 2016: 2,46 billion €
>4.55%
Fuck man did I count that right
Does this mean we iz military superpower n' sheeeeiiiit

I did save the day. I carry Sup Forums and the rest of you are shit

SHIT!!

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We have Americans as cannon fodder.

>Fuck man did I count that right

Nope. You got the money right but the % wrong. According to google you spend only 1.37% GDP on defence.

Which is a tiny amount considering Ivan is RIGHT THERE and you're not even in NATO.

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what is greece is a roundabout way for germoney to have an army?

Fair point.
>gibgibgib!
>>only if you kill
>OCHI!!
>>no gib then.
>KILKILKIL

Greece spends that much because of Turkey and because Greece = a million islands n shit which is expensive to defend

we are poor

You're not fucking poor you can afford 2% if the fucking Greeks can manage it

same here. we can't afford it.

We're not in NATO

>According to google
Are you an idiot? 2,46 divided by 54 times 100 is 4,55. THis is an objective mathematical fact.
Or are you trying to claim that google is a higher authority on state budgets than the literal budget itself?

US is way, way fucking higher than that. It might as well field Europe by itself. NATO is a scam and US gets jack shit from it.

Fucking retard

defmin.fi/tehtavat_ja_toiminta/puolustushallinnon_voimavarat/talous/puolustusbudjetin_osuus_bruttokansantuotteesta

Close the tab and rethink your life

not a real alliance, not paying for americans playing worldpolice

wow, that's a new level of autism

Except for:
leverage to invade oil rich nations
leverage to set up shadow governments
leverage to wage proxy wars
leverage is the real value of NATO. Protecting against other men with guns is not how wars are waged between superpowers. Mostly it's done from control rooms, planes and coastal bombardment.

It's not too much autism and not too little. Just the right amount.

Finland's GDP was 209.2 billion in 2015.
Defense spending was 2.886 billion.
That's less than 2% of GDP.

Repeating "leverage" again and again doesn't make you sound smart. On the contrary.

You should close this tab too. All of you should. Leave me alone in peace.

Oh rather.

Let's try to explain nutrition without repeating "carbohydrate" "protein" and "fat", shall we?

Leverage is the one thing of value to a superpower. Clay is secondary.

We are still recovering by the effects of 20 years of internal terrorism financed by NATO/USA.

>tfw 0.9%

m'kay

have you seen where my country is? we're on good terms with everyone and all you big guys will come save us when needed :3

You are looking at the diving the military expenditure with the govt budget, while you should do it with GDP, which is a bigger number

Because America, China and Russia don't want Japan Empire again.

>Lithuania leeching off richer countries and not paying their fair share as always

what a surprise

Those 1,8% we pay matter much more than Estonia or Poland, sorry guys. A numbered objective is stupid, it's obvious we are a more useful asset.

Rules are rules Pierre

we still have a better army than you spending way less

>Willingly becoming the 51st state
"Great" Britain everyone

Cant expect us to honor an alliance we have been forced into.
We have Poland and baltics as a shield too.

im greek

>Rules are rules Pierre

>Frenchmen
>Following rules

Obtenez une charge de ce gars

>france

>germoney

Next world war we need to just pillage and annex everything. Japan turned out alright but yurop is a lost cause.

>spending more on the British military so it's more capable makes us the 51st state

You sure you got the meme the right way round m8?

You cant do shit buddy.

>We have Poland and baltics as a shield too.

What's your plan if they fall?

america does it for us

Need more F-35's pls send.

We could be, all we have to do is remove the americas

All the good countries are not in NATO.

Wage your own damn wars.

BECAUSE NATO IS FUCKING USELESS

SHUT UP AND BUY AMERICAN-MADE WEAPONS YOU MONGRELS

Isn't new Caledonia a part of France

And France doesn't pay 2%

>Wage your own damn wars.
Erm, they do

NATO isn't relevant when they choose to wage a war, e.g. Iraq War wasn't NATO.

NATO is only relevant if a NATO country is attacked in the northern hemisphere around the Atlantic area

Yeah, and I'm interested at what's going to happen with Turkey if it gets attacked, or if something similar comes up.

Turkey is in NATO

You should

>Turkey is in NATO
I know.

>You should
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If Turkey gets attacked and they choose to trigger Article 5 then we all have to help them. If we don't, it's the end of NATO which means countries like Poland and Baltics also lose NATO protection

Oh wow, is Greece spending what? 50 bucks? Based Greeks.

don't need to we're chill

I thought Switzerland was neutral.

More than one country can be neutral.

The rule is too harsh, it should be 1% instead. Unlike what the memes are trying to make you believe, there is no immediate serious threat to any NATO member or its interests.

We are way above 2% what is this shit.

This

Especially Korea

Because it's not NATO it's U.S. international forces and they fucking did coup d'etat attempt on my country.

>Japan turned out alright

But it was just Erdogan couping himself?

>If we don't, it's the end of NATO which means countries like Poland and Baltics also lose NATO protection
(Citation needed)

I think it was a failed CIA coup. Just look at how long it took America to pledge support to Erdogan, the US ally. Looks fishy as fuck.

Yeah and Turkey also Support ISIS and we're all brown sandniggers who speak arabic. And we ride camels.

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Why couldn't he have done that?

this. Also Hitler had an army, too. We can just talk about it, while smoking some weed xD

They didn't even try to get Erdogan himself. CIA is way more competent than that

Because we don't need to.
American warmongers will happily pay the price of freedumb

Obviously if Article 5 isn't honoured then no one will believe in NATO deterrence

>CIA is way more competent than that
>What is the bay of pigs

Why did we rejoin this shit again?

Sarkozy was a burgerboo.