I have seen black Russians, black Scandinavians, black Poles, black and white Japanese, black and white Chinese, black South Koreans and even white North Koreans.
But I have never in my life seen a black Mexican.
Do they exist? Why do they have so few if any?
Why do you have so many?
>Black x european country
Doesnt exist
I think they are called "Cubans"
There are some dark mexicans but black if you say black african then nope
But why?
Slave trade
Because there weren't black slaves or few of them
Cuba f.ex had even more black slaves than local population
There's Mexicans of Afro descent or better to say Afro-Mestizo.
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Mexico is so shitty blacks would rather live in African countries
Makes sense, Tyrone.
Here ya go. Although she looks mixed.
And here is a mixed African/native American (Navajo) woman if you were curious what that looks like.
not that many blacks were sent to mexico compared to Brazil and the Caribbean islands.
they do exist, but they are isolated and people don't like to be around them (very few of them though, can be found in Oaxaca).
>nigger detected
kek, jamal
Goddamn lazy Moortuguese piece of shit. Reeeee. We could be a good country.
Afro-Latino*
hol up hol up, you be sayin' they is CHANGZ, VIKINGZ, SAMURAIS, SLAVS N SHIIIIIEEETT?
DAMNNN!!!
yes
wat
I see probably one or two per week
t. California
Oh and I guess this explains it as most of the Mexicans in my area are from Oaxaca
Is he wrong?
would
Since America is BLACK'D, no.
Yes it does, non-country.
kek, blacks would flee because what they consider shitty is: no "muh welfare n shiiieet", here you've gotta work your ass off if you want money, and people not liking blacks (this happens everywhere, though).
I have cuban grandparents and they're white as fuck
The trick is that all the white cubans left when the revolution won
>you have to work your ass off
what, is selling drugs that hard? Black people here do it all the time
Selling them is easy, getting them across the border is not :^)
nope, those psychos that do that aren't that many as your media want you to believe, which is clear many of you do without questioning. With all the money they've amassed over the years and all the weapons at their disposal it isn't surprising at all.
I'm black
There are black mulattos or morenos native to mexico, yes. Desdants of slaves, not immigrants. They live in Oaxaca mostly. Fat chance you would meet one that emigrated to the U.S since it's a very small minority. There's a documentary about it, I don't remember the name. You might try looking for it on youtube.
There's actually somthing around a good half million blacks in our population, they've assimilated and intermarried to the point they really are just very dark Mexicans, and this is the way it should be, they're not some ghettoized minority and while many do live in poor states, Veracruz, Oaxaca and Guerrero, they really aren't worse off than native Americans or mestizos in their region.
Some of the great figures in our history have been Mulattos like Morelos or Alvaro Carrillo so it's not like they've been erased, and while Mexicans do tend to be racist towards blacks those who were born here are a different matter, they're bros, as long as Mexico comes first we are all cool.
Couple of songs HONORING black women, we do appreciate their beauty.
Africa doesn't have welfare and having welfare or social services that are top quality or decent is a sign that your state is actually competent so being proud of not having that is pretty shitty.
did i ever mention i was proud of it, leafman?
geez, you leaves really shitpost everywhere.
How is what I posted a shit post?
For blacks in general the laziness meme was propagated during times they were ruled over as a slave/colonial population since on top of any positive or neutral perception of a people turning negative when they are conquered by another population those places were all about extracting labor through any means necessary with forced labor being the primary way to do so. American blacks (most poor) aren't anymore lazier then the poor whites they occupy the same class status with.
Supposedly descendants of African slaves exist in the Caribbean part.
>those psychos that do that aren't that many as your media want you to believe
To be fair, you're also just regurgitating what media wants you to believe about blacks with muh welfare and lazy.
>nope, those psychos that do that aren't that many as your media want you to believe, which is clear many of you do without questioning
they sure kill a whole lot more people than guns in our countries desu. seems pretty big to me
Same reason why Chile has so few blacks, no slaves from africans, the spaniards used the natives.
Not true. Afro-Chileans existed in a considerable number at one point.
Almost all of Latin America had hundreds of thousands of African slaves actually. They just either blended in with the general population or were traded to other countries.
They're not technically the descendants of slaves
en.wikipedia.org
First succesful revolt in the continent, the blacks achieved a status similar to independent native American comunities and had autonomy to rule themselves, all of the pueblos were blacks live today got started as colonies of escaped maroons whether acknowledged by the authorities or not, most of those who remained elsewhere fought in the Independence war and gained their own freedom, finally some small towns in the north were founded by blacks who fled slavery in the United States, article 1 of the constitution, even today, grants immediate freedom to any slave whio reaches Mexican soil. These blacks helped protect Mexico against Comanche/Apache raids originating in American territory. All blacks in Mexico freed themselves by their own means and did so fighting one way or another, it's a very different narrative from slaves being freed by whites or who had whites fight for their freedom... And they assimilated, some hold unique traditions like many other peoples in Mexico, but they're a part of the mainstream and have contributed those to national culture. They've been intermarrying for many generations, they're just darker skinned Mexicans today...
>black japanese
I saw 3 black japs. Two were girls, they looked japanese, the other one was a guy. He was your average nigga, he didn't look japanese at all in any way. He was tall, fat and darker than dark.
She can get it tbqh
How does that remove from the fact that they descend from slaves brought from to the Americas from Africa?
>All blacks in Mexico freed themselves by their own means
Much of that happened in the United States and most other countries as well. Ever heard of the "Underground Railroad". pic related
One of my community college instructors was half-black and half-mexican and he didn't learn english well into his adulthood. He was also a RAGING leftist, like made bernie look like hitler, but he was astonishingly pretty fair towards whites to my amazement so he'd be the only one I wouldn't have lynched on the Day of the Rope. He was a genuine egalitarian If I had ever seen one.
It makes for a different narrative, no black person in Mexico has ever asked for reparations or any form of treatment that is in any way different from what any other Mexican would get, blacks here feel they are in the same boat as everyone else, even ethnic European Criollos had to fight to free themselves from the prejudice of not being born in Europe... Does this sound like the US to you?
Pictured Mexican Independence hero, this man, a mulatto, has a state named after him, wrote the equivalent to our independence decalaration, Los Sentimientos de la Nación, was a military leader admired by Napoleon and is featured on our $50 peso bill. No Mexican lives who does not know his name.
>Does this sound like the US to you
Yes? Blacks here and elsewhere also had to fight to free themselves? The circumstances may be different as the US had de jure segregation and required active protest but the actions of descendants of slaves remained the same.
You're basically implying that blacks elsewhere sat around and did nothing during slavery and did nothing to liberate themselves.
>tfw no black women in Mexico
>tfw bo qt black gf
Feels bad man
I hate it when someone who lives in USA and has grandparents/great grandparents from country "X" considered being part of the nation from "country X".
Heretigefags from USA are not Poles. They don't live in Poland, they weren't raised here, they're just as foreign for us as any other USA citizen.
So please stop calling "my Polish heritage" fags "Poles".
Seriously? You're unironically stating there's no demands in the US by some for reparations? Even without segregation blacks remain a comunity apart today in your country and this is a pattern, the ghettoization of minorities, that is the norm in the US and much of the world. And I'm not implying they didn't succed elsewhere, leaving aside Haiti there are some examples elsewhere in Latin America. What I'm stating clearly is they succeeded here, there's blacks in Mexico but no niggers, no gangbanger culture. Ironically narcos come from the whiter sates...
Blacks in Mexico are in fact so far mixed that we generally associate blackness with Cubans and their accent, again this is not the result of erasure but out of two full centuries of integration.
I'm sorry if this goes against your SJW sentiments, there's been apparently a number of American organizations interested in "rekindling" blackness in our country, but blacks here don't think of themselves as former slaves anymore than the native Americans do or even whites or mestizos, everyone was a part of the casta system and screwed by it, we ALL broke it with independence, we are ALL Mexicans now, we are race mixers and proud miscegenators.
And what's with the butthurt that there could be black people in the Americas who have a proud history of rebellion AND not standing as a people apart? Sure, they technically descend from slaves but they freed themselves by their own means centuries ago. How long must the stigma last? Why must they say they descend from slaves rather than from people who did not suffer bondage long and freed themselves?
I won't argue there's no racism in Mexico, but the fact remains that while American blacks were in chains, blacks in Mexico were free and taking white women as brides. Equal to all other men, under the law at least. We never had any of that Jim Crow bull...
The situation played out that way because your nation decided to go the route of miscegenation as opposed to America's system of segregation. That's why I stated the circumstances were different, but regardless of the situation in their respective countries, ALL African slaves still fought to free themselves.
I'm saying that the narrative of African slaves waiting, doing nothing, and waiting for whites that you said previously is false in general. It's just bad history.
>How long must the stigma last?
How is it a stigma? It's a fact. Descending from African slaves isn't bad, they've had substantial cultural impacts across the Americas. It's nothing to be ashamed of. That's the point.
You're basing your idea of the African slave on this false ideology of laying around and not caring about anything which isn't even supported in any historical literature anywhere in the Americas.
>black Poles
I've been to half of Poland.
I saw about 3 arabs in total but not a single nigger.
It was amazing.
No man, maybe this is what we are not agreeing on, I'm not saying black slaves didn't fight elsewhere, I'm saying they were succesful here, regardless of our ideals as a people. Gaspar Yanga was born in Africa, he fought for his freedom and then grew old as a free man. Would you call him a slave when this was just a period of his life? Sure, other blacks in Mexico were not as lucky, some were born slaves and died in bondage. But it doesn't take away from the fact that by and large they were succesful. It's not that others didn't fight, is that they won.You may think is all the same but there is a difference.
Yes, I understand.
However, just because they were successful doesn't make them any less descendants of African slaves. The 'African slave' part is important because that essentially was what they were. If you deny that part, you're basically denying their reality, how they overcame it and its importance in Mexican history.
I'm just confused as to why you think African slaves from centuries ago, are stigmatized. You say it's not erasure, but that's basically what you're insinuating by not describing them as slaves/descendants of enslaved Africans. You can still be a descendant of African slaves and still be fully integrated. It's apart of colonial history and there's no reason to hide or be ashamed of it.
Just because they were in slavery less longer than other slaves doesn't change the fact that they were a byproduct of the African slave trade.
>black mexican
are you fucking stupid, that's just like saying you haven't seen an african asian
Invest in Eastern Poland Hitler
That's the thing, we are discussing Mexican history, Spaniards were not the British and they certainly were not the Portuguese...
Amerindians were never technically slaves, their servitude worked under the encomienda system, it was like a guardianship in which the Spanish crown took charge under nominally benevolent purposes, to improve their lives and Christianize them. In practice their treatment wasn't any less cruel than a slaves's would have been but Spaniards were not wholly evil savages, the Spanish Inquisition more often protected them than not. Blacks were inserted into that social paradigm even if nominally slaves, they were a part of the Casta system with laws made for their protection. To view them outside that context is to deny their history as well, the term slave conveys the system in American plantations and not a reality in which many black men were free and did belong in a social order, however subordinate their position may have been.
It's a matter of nuance perhaps, but ultimately this was a system of oppresion that involved all peoples, even ethnic Spaniards not afforded the same rights as those born in Europe. Yes, the black man was at the very bottom of it, And yes, those newly arrived more often did so as slaves, but when speaking of slavery in Mexico a rather large footnote should be added to that, it wasn't the same as in the US.
Again, this may be useful in terms of a larger narrative of Africans in the new world, leaving aside it does often seem to come attached to an agenda. But in terms of Mexican history it was part of a system of oppresion, not necessarily more harsh than what many Amerindians suffered, and part of a larger narrative in which Spanish North America gradually freed itself from European control, not the history of an individual group
I don't think we'll settle this though it's been an interesting discussion,
>the term slave conveys the system in American plantations
And that's where I disagree. 'African slave' in this context suggests someone that came from the African slave trade on behalf of European colonists. It simply describes where one came from and how they got there. That's the most common denominator of the definition. I've never heard any respectable historians refer to them as anything else. Sure, not all we're enslaved for long but it describes their origin.
Did they purposely 'immigrate' there on luxury ships? No. Are they native? No. Are they the byproduct of the African slave trade? Yes; they were forced from their original lands, had to seek freedom and form a new culture and identity. To omit this is basically erasure. It's like saying the Spanish conquistadors weren't conquistadors or colonists and were just immigrants. It's weird and reeks of revisionism.
'African slave' is not reserved for those who came to America. I think that's very strange. Because they essentially all have the same or mostly similar origin.
>black mexican
You mean a columbian?
>black x
the fuck?
But I be dun seen about everything, when I seen an elephant fly.
Nope. Blacks cant be european
>I was born in a stable. I'm a horse.
>Do they exist? Why do they have so few if any?
they have an entire country called Belize
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