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I never believed in superstitions

good on ya m8

>when did you grow out of superstition Sup Forums?

Yes, im not atheist.

God is not superstition, he is truth.

tell me you're joking lmao

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“He who does not believe in God will believe in anything.”

G. K. Chesterton

I am not saying that atheist will believe just any nonsense, but it seems to me that things like communism, moral relativism, cultural relativism etc. etc. are much more popular among atheists. Many times, though not all, an atheist will not believe in God but will take it upon himself to believe in another philosophy, oftentimes a very destructive one.

Sup Forums is a liberal and atheist board

I became one at age 12.

Reason: Mother didnt buy me a PS2 for my birthday and got me a Xbox instead with a gay game called Halo.

This extreme injustice done to me made me realize that there is no god. If I had gotten it I would still believe.

What about you? What made you not believe in god?

Did your crush in highschool turn your down? Did your mommy not buy you a toy? Didnt buy the correct toy? Did you barista not give you the right drink that made you stop believing in god?

What was it?

That is very obviously not a true response on my post now is it?

Plus I think there are more religious people on Sup Forums compared to some other boards.

This

>I BELIEVE in science
>thinks he's not superstitious
Poor child, I shall pray for you

That quote seems like it should be the other way around. If you believe one thing without evidence, why not believe anything without it? Religious people are the less critical ones usually and believe memes like homeopathy, etc.

I don't believe in Science, I can prove Science.

You can't prove religion

>I can PROVE science
>by using science bibl...I mean textbooks!
God be with you, my boy

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wtf i love russia now

so mythology and tales > facts according to you?

Orthodox is best

Agnostic here
Can you prove they are superstitions and myths without question deflecting, question avoiding or using a question begging epithet?

Having a child without being fucked is impossible.

Turning water into wine is impossible.

Magically duplicating fish and bread is impossible

Raising the dead is impossible

Resurrection after being crucified is impossible.
Simple as that.

I can understand Christianity as a philosophy or culture, cultural Christianity defends family values, ethics and piety. We definitely need all that if we want to fight against the barbarism of multiculturalism and islamism.

I can not believe, however, most dogmas of Christianity as the fact that Jesus is the Messiah and he died for the redemption of the sins of humanity, or the belief in that powerful and evil entity called god in which most Christians believe.

I asked you to prove it without using a question begging epithet

So far no proof of your claims

"Flying machines are impossible!"
- people, little over 100 years ago

I am God. If you disagree, prove your position without using a question begging eipthet

oh boy its a smart-picutre-with-under-15-words-thread.

If we're going by the story, Jesus used wizard magic, not technology, so your point doesn't really stand

You resort to a strawman after being questioned on your lack of belief and to prove what you claim?

Didn't I ask you not to question deflect?
Was this too hard?

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14. I got really into religion when I was 13 trying to feel god but I gave up when nothing was really working for me.

Because your tactic doesn't stand any ounce of scrutiny. If you can't disprove I am God, then you must believe me.

When I was like 11 or so

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Your still question dodged and deflecting
You haven't answered any of my questions and respond with a strawman.

Why would this be?

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Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, senpai.

Because I don't have to answer any questions? This is a discussion, not an interview.

So since you can't disprove I am God, and you refuse to believe me, how is that any different from me not believing Jesus when he says he is God?

I saw an object appear out of nowhere but I can't make an experiment to recreate it so it's obviously superstition on my part.

I have heard non-theistic people say that a lot, you believe in a without evidence so you would probably believe b without too much evidence either. And I guess from a certain perspective it makes sense to see it like that. But the thing is, Christians tend to see that there is proof for the existence of God, something that we can deduce from the observable fact that there is an objective morality or the huge complexity of the universe.

But all that aside, what I am trying to say is that without a theistic framework your view becomes very temporal, if one takes the spiritual out of the equation one can only guess that the world is without order unless one creates order itself. From this perspective a lot of thinkers have decided to force a certain system upon the world, I think this is where a lot of -isms like communism comes from. These -isms have been very concerned with trying to make the world better with a lack of a solid definition of better, doing everything in their way to achieve that goal, even killing.

That and the denouncement of an objective moral stemming from the same observation of chaos in the universe has proven Nietzsche correct in hist statement that the 20th century would be the most deadly yet because God has died. I am not saying that I fully support that thesis, but I do think there rings some truth in it.

Probably a hallucination.

There's a reason why most religious people get "signs from God" when they haven't slept in a while. It only takes 24 hours + of no sleep before you start getting lucid and at 30 hours is when most people start hallucinating small things

You made an assertion
I asked you to prove it

By definition of burden of proof

burden of proof
phrase of burden
1.
the obligation to prove one's assertion.

You are obliged to prove what you assert.

Why can't you be held up to the same standard you hold others too?

>the hallucination of the piece of brick that is currently lying on my desk has been going on for more than three years
ok

>and then the atheist american was like "The Universe just burst into existence! Out of nothing!". He then tipped his highly unfashionable fedora hat and waddled away to the nearby McDonalds
>you shitting me, Batyushka, how can anyone be so ignorant?!

No, that's not how it works.

The Bible first asserts that Jesus was born of a Virgin. Yet it doesn't prove this assertion, so I am not required to believe it.

I can say Jesus wasn't born of a Virgin, because the Bible has yet to prove that he was.

Just because you don't believe bullshit claims made by a group of peasants doesn't mean you can't believe in a higher power

>demanding the proof from the word of God
wew

Where is the proof that it is the word of God?

>it says that it's the word of God, therefore it's the word of God

I didn't ask about the bible now did I?
This is question deflecting

I asked you to prove your assertion
How hard is this to do?
You seem so sure of yourself

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I never was very religious, but in childhood / teen years I was like "50% chance God exists, 50% chance he does not". Now it's more like "5% chance God exists, 95% chance he does not". I'm not really Atheist, more Agnostic - I think some superior force that rule the universe somehow can exist, but surely not in the way described in Bible/Koran etc. And it most likely doesn't give a damn about humans.

I don't get your pictures because I'm not an atheist lmao. I don't have to disprove anything as I said. You're free to believe anything you want, though you will be retarded. So if you're going to keep deflecting MY question, why should I honor you and answer yours?

I'm God, deal with it, you can't disprove it, therefore you must accept it.

All of a sudden you're not atheist?
Interesting

Another question deflection by the way

That still doesn't void the questions I originally asked when you made assertions.

Why can't to prove what you assert?

>I NEED PROOOOOOOOOF HURRRR
Why are godless men so irrational and angry all the time?
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No I maintain that God could or could not exist. The world and universe is perfectly explainable without God, it is also explainable with a God.

I disbelieve in the supernatural because there is no proof of any supernatural event ever happening. Eye witness testimonies are the least worthy proof in any court of law, and every single eye witness testimony can be explained by something that's not supernatural.

I disbelief in the supernatural because I've yet to see proof. The Bible makes supernatural claims without proving them.

The burden of proof is not on the non-Christian, it's on the Christian who claims a 1st Century Palestinian Jew is God who died on a cross, and if you believe in him you will be resurrected and become immortal to wine and dine in paradise.

Simple as that. Absurd claims don't require someone to disprove them. If someone says Santa Claus lives on the sun, it's on him to prove it, not on someone else to disprove him.

Why don't you believe in Islam? Judaism? Zoroastrianism? Tengrism? Sikhism? Buddhism? Hinduism? Jainism? Shintoism? Confucianism? Wicca? Bahai? Heathenism?

You're a Christian because you were born in a Christian nation, not because it's the divine truth

Well, Christianity is in fact a religion that is very much spread out across the globe. The church in China is probably the most fastest growing one.

I believe it to be truth because morality exists, if there is more than one god there must be more than one morality to which I can hold myself because there is more than one lawgiver. So it ought to be monotheistic, next question "why did God create us?" I think because of love for humanity, love only exists in relation to others. In Islam and Judaism there are only others after creation meaning that love did not precede creation. In Christianity God is one in three distinct forms, so there must have been love and communication before creation, which makes more sense. It is the combination of the one and the multiple.

I see conservative religious people being more aggressive than atheists, but that's none of my business

Why can't multiple gods share the same morality?

You can't prove why God created us, except referring to the Bible.

Go home Professor Dawkins

Around 12.
I just realized I didn't believe in it anymore.

Answer this at least, why should life exist at all? What biological process in nature, free from any engineering guidance, would cause life to form.

We know that about 4 billion years ago amino acids formed chains, and that these formed proteins, but why would chemical based proyiens suddenly have a "need" or "desire" to reproduce themselves and start the path of evolution? Why would a relatively complex amalgamation of chemicals found on orimordial earth suddenly become self aware and attempt to replicate?

None of the enlightened folk here had anything smart to say about my "hallucinations". Interesting.

>Why can't multiple gods share the same morality?

It would imply that morality must have preceded the gods because they hold onto an already existing morality, because if every god arrives at the same morality it must not be it's creation, there is no distinction in the creation of that which is right, the god would simply be a slave to that which has already been set into stone beforehand. If there are more gods there must be more types of morality, meaning that wrong can become right, something which I detest.

>You can't prove why God created us, except referring to the Bible.

It might seems so but consider this. I believe God exists because morality exists, if morality is not existent it is anyone's guess and I think that history has proved to us terrible things happen if someone comes to that conviction. So it seems reasonable to assume God exists because he is a necessary actor in a world where this exists. But if he exists and he did not create us then what is left to make him God? He might have created that morality to which we ought to hold ourselves but he did not create us, which begs the question just exactly when God turned around the corner. If God is the lawgiver but not the creator then the creator must have been the lawgiver prior to the creation of the lawgiver so the morality of that lawgiver must have come from the creator as according to my argument before.

You make God seem more like Moses on the mountain with his tablets and less like God desu.

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I don't believe God exists but I try to do what is right anyway - which is not hating your neighbour and dividing his people.

Because a magic man from heaven decided so. Sounds realistic.

It's an infinite unverse, so random chance

Good point.
But your argument doesnt disprove religion, it disproves Christianity.
Islam means submission to one God. Prophet Muhammad is the FINAL messenger after PROPHET Moses, PROPHET Jesus, etc. We believe they were human beings like you and me given special miracles by the will of God.

Random chance can explain the exact right chemicals, being in the exact right location, at the exact right time, and firming in the exact right way, but it cannot explain how they suddenly became alive, gained self awareness, formed cells, and started feeling a need to reproduce themselves.

I didn't say anything about a magic man from heaven, I said "engineering guidance."

I'm not out to disprove God, I'm out to disprove religion.

Islam makes the same special claim.

What miracles did Muhammad perform? And what proof do you have that he did those things? Why do you believe Muhammad is the final messenger? Why isn't Joseph Smith the final messenger?

Islam is the same as my argument. Muhammad claimed to be a Prophet from God (The Last Prophet). What proof is there that he was a prophet?

Mormons don't believe that Joseph Smith was the final prophet. They believe that the church is meant to always have a prophet. The period of time between the death of Christ and his exodus from the New World and the ordination of Joseph Smith as prophet is calked the Great Apostasy.
The current and 16th LDS prophet is Thomas Monson.

Yeah you're right, I mixed that up

Struck a nerve, huh.

Was never into paganism, thus never superstitious.

>Answer this at least, why should life exist at all? What biological process in nature, free from any engineering guidance, would cause life to form.
Learn about random number generators.

It exists because it's possible and probabilities got right.

Who created the creator?

>americans literally worship santa claus and a holiday card character
Can't make this shit up

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>twenty sixteen
>believing in le ebic magic sky fairy

Why is there hunger and poverty if God is all powerful and loves us all?

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2. When I was 13, I believed in Santa claus more than I believed in God or anything else so when my mother told me there was no Santa claus I lost faith in everything.

Canada.

It depends on what you mean by superstitions?

I do not believe in things like curses, witchcraft, voodoo, shamanism, urban legend beliefs and wives tales superstitions.

I believe in things like myths and concepts, because in the majority of our myths there is a grain of truth, or the concept behind the idea is one worth admiring.
Aesops fables are purely about fictional circumstances, but have in them coded messages about morality and humanity.

Ancient myths about Gods and demi-gods can usually be traced back to the worship of exceptional people who ruled long ago, and became deified through oral traditions and mutations. Heracles is a fantastic example of a Greek city state king, who was turned into a God after his death.

The same can be said for the historical Jesus who taught morality as an apocalyptic prophet in the holy land, and was crucified by the Romans and the Sanhedrin, to prevent any potential uprisings during passover.
If you look at the original gospels, the earliest examples Gospel of Mark, Q Document, and the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas make no mention of Jesus being a god, but rather advocated that there would eventually be a new messiah who would come soon and build a kingdom of God on earth. Later interpretations of the Gospels written from oral traditions by later Christian interpreted Christ as the Messianic figure that had been preached about, and went so far as to create the Bethlehem story, in order to tie in with Jewish messianic traditions written about in the Torah.

The irony of which, is that even under this line of thought, when you look at the establishment of Christianity, and its eventual religious domination of the Western world, the ideas of Jesus including the establishment of a kingdom of believers were actually realised through his followers, thus fulfilling his divine message.

At 18 days of age or something when my IQ passed 70.

>Some atheist neckbeard out there got so rattled he went to the effort to make this image

>objective morality
Wow. Tell me more about objective morality in such issues as human sacrifices in Spanish and Aztec culture. They seem to have a pretty different stacne on such a crucial aspect, don't they?

>used to be an edgy atheist
>now I go to church every sunday

I grew into it instead.

>tfw I'm the only 20 year old there and barely the only one at all

to be frank i wish people would go back to being super religious.
every single european, except me of course should go back and believe in god and uphold the values of the bible. it's the only way we can stop the islamisation of our continent.

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>irrationally hating something because a fat german told you to do so 200 years ago

>Why yes, I do believe in God despite a lack of evidence, contradictions in the Bible and proven facts such as evolution

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I have always found it funny that Atheist tend to turn their arguements against the existence of God, as an arguement against Church doctrine, and usually in most cases Roman catholic doctrines and dogmas. Thus they target a specific group of believers in a idea for their practical interpretation of that idea, rather than finding a massive fault with the actual belief itself.

My view is that Christianity as a moral code is like the majority of practical world religions, the fault often lies not with idea, but the interpretation of the idea.
While I don't agree with many views of other Christians, and I don't believe in the more superstitious aspects of Christianity, I do believe that it is a just religion and philosophy when genuinely practiced.

As for belief in God, I've had questions of faith, I've gone through periods of Agnosticism, but I have never questioned the existence of a God, even if whatever it is, is not our common interpretation of it,

never prayed for any of those things. i don't give a shit if some people pray or not, it's their own choice

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I hope you come into the light, God bless

I became agnostic at 13 and atheist at 15

>13
>I believed in Santa claus

>the Republic of Ireland

For fucks sake, do you guys know how damn cringy you sound?
>"I don't believe in the man that others praise for helping them, he's a myth. I ride alone, no god alliowed. -Razor X out."

Unless you're an advanced alien. That's what scientists don't account for when trying to disprove religion. Jesus might have been an alien.

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>"Atheism isn't a belief!"
Why are fedoras so fucking stupid? Do they even understand basic logic and language, never mind metaphysical and philosophical concepts?
>"B.. B.. But it's not a belief, it's a LACK of a b.. belief!"
Top fucking kek, it's like conversing with a child!

>tell of something that happened to me that cannot be explained
>"y-yeah man, you were hallucinating"
>I have the evidence of it happening
>no response
These enlightened individuals truly hold no beliefs. Their heads are filled with straw.