And replacing the SSD with a 60$ HDD bumped up to $80 for the fusion, halving the RAM cost, and replacing the graphics card with the equivalent radeon pro 570, adding a 40$ network card brings us to $879 for a comparable computer.
Keyboard and mouse, $40 (assuming we're being pretty cheap).
Cable, 5$ (again assuming we're being pretty cheap.
Windows: free/pirated
Total: $1524
That's a difference of $275 dollars, but for that you're getting...
-5k resolution instead of 4k -An all in one instead of tower + lots of cables -MacOS + the ability to dual boot Windows or Linux, vs pirated windows and no Mac opportunity -Warranty + support -Computer already built for you, vs having to build it yourself
When you consider all that, the Mac suddenly doesn't look so overpriced.
>Attempting to have a rational discussion regarding the pricing of Mac's on Sup Forums. You've already lost, expect photo's of Tim Cook with an Indian guy very soon.
Kevin Ward
It's alright for what it is but you can just buy a 10 years old ThinkPad and have a better overall experience
Hunter Butler
> but you can just buy a 10 years old ThinkPad and have a better overall experience
not if you want a high end desktop with a 4k resolution
Samuel Taylor
>itoddlers trying to justify their precious facebook browsing devices What if I told you that people don't need 16GB of RAM to post on twitter?
The only reason anyone would want a powerful computer would be in order to gayme. Nobody with half a brain cell would fucking game on the Mac operating system, it's fucking abhorrent to use.
Logan Rogers
True, that's why I said it was alright. But the average Mac user just want the logo.
Austin Hill
I'm going to be quite honest here, no you aren't. This isn't a shill for MacOS, but a fucking ten years old ThinkPad is not providing an "Overall better experience" than a 5k iMac with a Core i5/Radeon 570. Like why do you people feel the need to shill this garbage like its some magical piece of hardware? It's cheap and that's all you can afford or want to pay, then buy it, but don't lie to yourself.
Jaxon Mitchell
You can dual boot windows if you want to game.
For general use though I want a snappy computer with a high resolution. my old PC had a 27" screen and at 1920x1080 it looked very pixelly. The resolution just looks great on an iMac.
Robert Martin
>Bootcamp. >Final Cut Pro. >Almost the exact same professional suite as within Windows. Nobody is buying this just for "tweeting," nor are they doing so just for "gayming," you're delusional if you think otherwise.
Justin Robinson
>you dont need X fuck off poorfag animeposter
Christian Ramirez
You're comparing a Radeon Pro 570 against a GTX 1080.
Adrian Butler
It has a shitty cpu and graphics card. My 6yo is 2600k still wipes the floor with that mac's cpu
$275 more for less than half the GPU power. WTF I love Apple now.
Hudson Ross
>running a 5k display off a 570, i5 and 8GB of ram Any graphic intensive application is going to choke at this resolution. Even the 1080ti can barely get by benchmarking at 4k. Not as dumb as 4k phones but still pretty useless.
Elijah Gonzalez
Every faggot on a macbook I've ever seen was either watching youtube or was on facebook It's kind of pathetic how you applefags will defend anything
>being this angry I think you're just upset about the debt you went into to afford your iShit device.
Carson Jones
What? No. I went from a 2008 Macbook Pro to a 2012 X220 and it was a massive downgrade in terms of audio and video quality. And yes, I got the IPS version.
The only clear wins for the Thinkpad are that it is obviously more durable, and that it plays nicer with linux.
Dylan Smith
It's the best OTB consumer desktop PC, especially now that Windows hasn't been good since W7 and is now an ugly bloated botnet. Some Sup Forums users shit on it because they can't get past their inner microshit fanboy Windows vs. Mac rivalry and infographics with price comparisons they saw ten years ago, even though they don't even use Windows anymore and have moved over to GNU/Linux for the anime ricing.
Aiden Walker
>5k resolution instead of 4k I don't think the difference matters when using Twitter and Facebook >All in one instead of tower + cables Modularity > AIO any day >No Mac support Build a hackintosh >Warranty + support Parts usually have warranty >Pre built vs custom built You know the parts going into your machine and spend the difference into something else to make it better >Mac isn't overpriced The $275 difference isn't a rip off then?
Leo Harris
Weak bait 0/10
David Baker
>I don't think the difference matters when using Twitter and Facebook
A 33% higher resolution will make a difference no matter what you are doing.
>Modularity > AIO any day
Only if you're upgrading. Otherwise, AIO is superior. Takes up less space, looks better, less cables...
>Build a hackintosh
Obviously inferior to an actual Mac. It rarely works perfectly and you need a Mac in the first place to create a bootable USB copy.
>Parts usually have warranty
Parts which "usually" have a warranty, all bought separately and with a pirated copy of windows vs a machine built by one company, all of which is on warranty...
Jaxson Perez
>A 33% higher resolution will make a difference no matter what you are doing. >what is diminishing returns
Andrew Brown
>thinks actual, competent users care about that retarded resolution
Julian Wilson
>applel housefire trash
Nah. You would have to be a drooling troglodyte to buy Apple shit, just so happens that's what all macbrainlets are.
Jacob Jackson
It makes a clear difference. Both are great to be clear, but the iMac's 33% higher resoluition is just better, no way around that.
Gabriel Gray
all parts have warranty, usually even longer than what prebuilts offer. order everything from the same store and you have them under the same receipt
Brayden Cruz
>arguing with iToddlers
Wyatt Gonzalez
Agreed OP. Pic related: my new iMac.
Expensive? Yes. Overpriced? No.
It's a premium product, and worth every penny. The best way to put it: I upgraded from regular computing to luxury computing.
Parker Barnes
Yup, a clear difference in power consumption too.
Levi Nelson
>housefire trash >premium
Good joke.
Lucas Anderson
>Final Cut Pro Did you fall asleep in 2009 and just wake up? Adobe Premiere is the standard now.
Matthew Diaz
Not this fucking thread again
Zachary Allen
>luxury computing
James Turner
>the average Mac user just want the logo the average mac user wants something that isn't convoluted and will do what they want.
>be me >have an iPhone >go to buddy's house >try to connect to wifi >notification pops up on his iPhone asking him to just give me access to the wifi >I didn't even need to type in the fucking password >it just works
THAT is why people like apple products. People here may look down on the rubber baby buggy bumpers, but most people don't use their computers for the faux 1337 h@x0r bullshit Sup Forums does. Hell, most linux users probably use a mac tier DE anyway. Gnome is damn good if you're not using linux to prop up your outdated poorbook from 2004 or your dust filled desktop from 2006.
Ryder Sanders
>8GB of 1600mhz RAM >Notebook 290X >Luxury
Levi Ramirez
>connecting to wifi takes 2 minutes less than before wtf i love apple now
Luis Bailey
>Takes up less space, looks better, less cables Doesn't matter when the thing combusts if CPU usage stays at 100 percent for too long
Asher Myers
>Windows
Grayson Bailey
Good think upgrading the RAM is even easier than with a self built PC.
Nathaniel Reed
I just bought two Ultrafine 5k monitors to go with my 2017 15" rMBP. Feels good to be able to use the best available and not be ashamed of it. >b-b-but you could have bought this shitbox for less money! it always comes down to the money for these poorfags >b-but you're the poor one for overspending! yeah, okay, we've heard it all before
meanwhile I'll just enjoy my good technology enjoy your second hand ebay thinkpad with spooge on the keyboard
Your medical bill for your 3rd degree burns and your burned down house will be even more expensive.
Thomas Ramirez
What kind of retard buys a 21" iMac? Sup Forums only buys the 27" version which does indeed have user-replaceable RAM.
Carter Morris
>-5k resolution instead of 4k Is it a 6bit, or 8bit display? >-An all in one instead of tower + lots of cables I would rather have the tower form factor. >-MacOS + the ability to dual boot Windows or Linux, vs pirated windows and no Mac opportunity I'm fine with linux. >-Warranty + support Actually the only pro here in defense of apple products, or so I've heard. I never owned own, so I don't know if the warranty is actually any good when needed. >-Computer already built for you, vs having to build it yourself I don't mid assembling a pc.
>When you consider all that, the Mac suddenly doesn't look so overpriced. Considering all of that it does seem overpriced user, but if this seems like a deal to you then go for it. It is your money that you're spending after all.
Ryan Hall
The thing I hate about these anti-Apple posters is that they are everything that they claim to hate in "Apple fans". They blindly dislike something because of emotional associations and conditioning. Yes, Apple has some overpriced products, but they have plenty of excellent products at competitive prices, even though they are in the upper range.
Then again this board is full of literal children and street shitters so this fact is going to fall on deaf ears purely because they're all poor
Julian Rodriguez
>Sup Forums only buys
Only brain dead morons buy Apple anything.
Colton Diaz
lol ok pajeet worry about moving out of that corrugated tin roof shanty first and then we'll talk about high-end gadgets
Oliver Parker
>excellent products at competitive prices 2 rupees have been deposited in your Apple shill account. You'll be eating fancy with a nice bowl of curry tonight Sanjay!
Easton Morgan
>everyone I disagree with must be Indian I like this meme
William Morales
>they're all poor I live within my means user.
Jason Moore
LOL dumb iToddlers. You can't even download CP without daddy Apple reporting you to the CIA. Linux 4 life.
Jackson Watson
>comparing a computer with shit/mediocre specs to a gaming PC (You)
John Hall
The thing I hate about these Apple posters is that they are everything that they claim to hate in "poojeets". They blindly love something because of emotional associations and conditioning. Yes, PC/Android has some cheap $20 products, but they have plenty of excellent products at competitive prices, even though they are in the upper range.
Then again this board is full of literal children and street shitters so this fact is going to fall on deaf ears purely because they're all poor.
Cooper Ortiz
i wonder what these threads would look like if nonwhites and other inferior people weren't allowed to post on Sup Forums
Caleb Thomas
see pic op this has been the case at the time of ~~NEW~~ mac releases. the problem is that since apple stays on the hardware for awhile, overtime they become less of a value.
like the current itrash can and the 1440p and 5k imacs prior to the new releases.
like for example, i do own a 2013 27in imac. i bought it mid 2014 brand new straight from apple. it shipped with a 1440p 27in screen, nvidia 755m 1gb gpu, an intel 4750 with 16gb ddr3, and a 1tb hard drive. cost me $2,100 after tax.
horrible value to what i could have built myself at the time. but i wanted it.
Logan Jackson
These threads wouldn't exist because OP would be banned.
Nolan Evans
There would be less of these threads, and more how to infographics on how to do tech shit, or network properly.
Ayden Roberts
Seriously. 95% of the posters in Sup Forums are poorfags and the only decent hardware they can afford is a dated ThinkPad.
Ryan Lee
I'm going to be quite honest here, no you aren't. This isn't a shill for Thinkpad, but a fucking overheating fruit toy is not providing an "Overall better experience" than a $2000 PC with an 8700K and 1080 Ti. Like why do you people feel the need to shill this garbage like its some magical piece of hardware? It has a fruit logo and that's all you care about or want to pay, then buy it, but don't lie to yourself.
Ethan Wright
kek this it's impossible to have any sensible discussions here because of this shit fucking poorfags
Nolan Flores
video games are for children you dumb shitskin sageru
Chase Perry
Ive seen 4k moniters for $300
Noah Sullivan
>VIDEO GAMES ARE FOR CHILDREN >MEANWHILE I MASTURBATE TO CHILDREN CARTOONS >OHHH ONIII-CHAN SOON U YOU BE A REAL WOMEN.... IN MUH DREAMS
Hunter James
Why aren't there any discrete 5k monitors?
Aaron Walker
Ultrafine 5k, only works with superior Macs though
David Sanders
>Ive seen 4k moniters for $300 what like used shit from eBay? or really low-tier monitors in general
I found a HP Z27q that supposedly works with any hardware, but it costs as much as a 5k iMac, so I might as well just get the iMac.
Jacob Green
There's also that Dell one but yeah even if you buy used you're better off just getting a used iMac probably at the end of the day, though, there's obviously a lot more to it than just how much it costs Sup Forums for whatever reason can't comprehend this
James Price
Better than any apple trash garbage.
Only poorfags buy low quality fruit trash.
Brandon Butler
>"As soon as we started the test on the iMac, the CPU clock rate fell to 3 GHz"
>"The sensors recorded CPU temperatures of almost 100 °C (212 °F)"
Elijah Perez
You have a point for people who do photography and video, but it would be nice to have an entry-level 5k for when you only write software and shitpost, and don't care about the colour space.
Eli Morales
>entry-level 5k Poorfag.
Grayson Bennett
yeah, sure it’s a better value overall, but does the iMac’s motherboard support a GPU upgrade?
Isaac Rodriguez
Why would you get a more expensive model? Those constantly overheat and thermal throttle even MORE.
Jace Barnes
>Why would you get a more expensive model? Appletoddler poorfags everyone.
Just admit all you care about is your gay fruit religion logo. You're the same group of brainlets that hail iTrash having shit tier 1136x750 screens in 20-fucking-17. Quality never mattered to you.
Enjoy your 8-bit trash for poorfags while true patricians use professional Dell monitors.
just keep this in mind and take every post on Sup Forums with a grain of salt. Some people here are legitimately mentally ill.
Liam Jones
>look guys, I replied to every post in the thread, what are you gonna do now?
Joshua Scott
Not squandering money senselessly is how I avoid becoming a poorfag.
He's talking about high-end displays with larger colour gamuts, I don't think they are more prone to overheating than others.
William Rogers
APPLE AND MAC IS A PIECE OF SHIT
Cameron Edwards
>Dell 5k monitor >literally costs more than a 27" iMac
lol, great comparison there
Asher White
>high end >6-bit + FCR lol
And yes the more expensive models constantly overheat and thermal throttle more because of the higher clock rates.
Apple literally put tiny laptop fans on this piece of shit that would have trouble cooling a dual-core processor as well.
Christopher King
>memes from 2014 tfw convinced
Anthony Richardson
>t. appletard poorfag.
Brandon Evans
I don't think it will ever change.
The trash can would literally throttle to less than 2GHz with moderate workloads lmao.
Jacob Miller
>Enjoy your 8-bit trash for poorfags while true patricians use professional Dell monitors. t. NEET
In the real world in a real workplace you're going to have a hard time convincing the bean counters to buy you that kind of hardware outside of a few niche fields.
Asher Butler
/thread
Caleb Gray
It's not even 8-bit, just 6-bit with dithering lmao.
David Moore
>I don't think it will ever change. it did change, but you don't care because you're here to shitpost rather than discuss tech anyway this thread is worthless because genuinely mentally ill people are spamming as usual
Cooper Richardson
Barely. Now the newest iMac pro just thermal throttled to 3 GHz.
Meanwhile normal desktops can run processors at 5 GHz.
Eli Jones
>genuinely mentally ill people are spamming as usual This.
OP should just be range banned. Literally all he does is spam these shitty bait threads all day.
Can you imagine having so little going for you in life that you sit around posting this same shit day after day? You can even tell it's the same guy in most of the posts.
I know we're just memeing but this is honestly pathetic. I feel so bad for this guy. >inb4 he copy-pastes my post and replaces random words with Apple shit lmao
Josiah Baker
We're talking about Dell displays, not Apple computers, you fucking retard. Learn to read.
Ayden Carter
>wastes $1500 in a computer >can't pay for windows
