Why is it that most professionals, researchers, and university students use Macs?
Is it because of it being a Unix system?
Is it because of its simple OS?
Is it because of its reliability?
I don't understand it. Why would someone pay double the price of an XPS to use Mac OS?
At least at the place I work at all the engineers have Linux workstations and the managers have macbooks for their email and powerpoint needs.
>Is it because of it being a Unix system?
This by a wide margin, actually.
Researchers like MacOS because it's very very easy to install math language tools like SageMath and such without fussing with the environment too much, and same with a lot of software professionals.
Windows is hell for development if you're not building windows applications, and MacOS is basically "it just werkz" linux.
Students use it because its trendy and they're stupid.
It's a Unix environment that doesn't require you to set a lot of things up. The meme has truth in it, is just werks.
like 90% of mac users even know what unix is, lmao
just like those retarded graphic artists who insist they can only get work done on a mac
Oh, it's also a lot easier on IT for a lot of things.
MacOS is stupidly easy to "reset" when shit breaks.
Specifically with schools-- Apple used to fund computer labs in universities and schools so they sorta became the standard.
>like 90% of mac users even know what unix is, lmao
I'd be surprized if 5% of mac users knew what UNIX is.
It's the nicest OS to use by far, with nice hardware, and can tri-boot OSX-Windows-Linux with ease.
If you have the scratch no reason to get anything else.
Although Apple is doing what it can to chase away their pro customers by removing all IO from their "pro" systems.
As a software dev, it's because its a unix system
My current job uses windows though because IT is more easily able to manage windows and the client's VPN software is windows only.
>Why is it that most professionals, researchers, and university students use Macs?
Most use new thinkpads where I live
This.
Whenever I watch high-end technical shit on youtube and such, ALL the researches are using Macs.
>youtube
I don't understand it. Why would someone pay 4x the price of a Sonic to drive a Corvette?
Because it's good. Ease of use + unix. Only group it doesn't cater to is gamers really. I like the greater control that linux affords but in a work environment that rarely matters.
I would pay 4x the price of a Genesis game to get a car
But isn't NVidia working on fixing that with their newest streaming technology? I have tried it and while there is some lag it has the potential to change the gaming market once the final product is released.
>Only group it doesn't cater to is gamers really.
That's a good thing.
Because all the programs they want to use and drivers for their devices are available for Mac and if they were using windows they would get viruses all the time. The only "reasonable" justification for windows is Gaymes. If you don't waste your time and just want a working computer without knowing anything about computers I totally understand that people choose macs if they can afford them. They are worse than windows users, downloading shit, clicking all of it and MacOS saves them from nuking their data most of the time - and on the other hand there are still a lot fewer viruses on Mac.
MacOS is reliable when you do the most basic tasks and only interact with other apple products. That's why all those "creative" dudes have only apple products. They have no brain to understand anything technical so they use their money to buy things that work together well. And I understand this.
This is the reasonable side of using apple, of course there are also the fanbois that think apple drives innovation or something...
Nobody uses your fruity toddler toys anywhere except braid dead PR people.
i think the iMac Pro is a step in the right direction with the IO it has, and the modular Mac Pro will most likely be a return to what pro users really want, which is the cheese grater form factor with high upgradability
Are you implying that once the redesigned MBP Pro comes out in 3 years that Apple has gone back to basic IO?
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Mactoddlers are literally delusional basement dwelling virgins.
You can't expect critical thinking from mactoddlers, if they correlate all attention whores on Youtube use Macs (surprise surprise) to something meaningful, they'll actually equate that to causation.
I think the next MacBook Pro will include ports other than TB3 yes
While I don't use it anymore, at least the OS was pretty good. Really stable, did not require constant updates, mostly simple to use and not that hard to deal with. It just doesn't get in the way and becomes part of an ecosystem, and some people want and like that. Along with the hardware, even though in the last years there have been some issues, they do actually provide something that just works.
Only in America
I'm thinking of the Macbooks. DONGLES DONGLES EVERYWHERE. Not only do they now only have USB3/TB3 combo ports, but they aren't even backwards compatible with all the (few) Thunderbolt devices already on the market.
Christ, they even took the SD card slot away! The MBPs even now have SOLDERED ON SSDs!!!!
Contrast with just a few years ago when Macbook Pros had i/o galore (USB, Thunderbolt/DP, SD, HDMI). Plus magsafe which was GLORIOUS.
>most university students
what did he mean by this?
Go into the drafting or CAD class and see what they run
Apple gives discounts to education departments, but overall it makes no sense for them to use OSX when no one else uses OSX.
Great build quality + Unix-like OS + Commercial software support + Pretty operating system and chasis
I remember in my high school, our librarian was suggesting the department to purchase Mac's for their aging computers. Librarian unironically had a gender studies degree and only got her job because she used to be a student there. Thank god a graduated that year.
Our video editors at work use them, usually equiped with the top i7 at the time 6700k, SSD and then we manually upgrade the ram to 32GB, because that bit is user serviceable.
They're fine for what they do apart from:
>Shit cpu cooling that throttles
>Terrible finder
>Limited to 4 usb ports
>Finder is really fucking awful
>Single 1gbe port
>No pci expansion for our office's needed 10gbe upgrade
>TB2 expansion for the above come in at over £500 per workstation
>Hard drives break three years after purchase no matter what (all spinning rust is gone from them now)
Really the lack of expansion for network and storage is the biggest problem.
Oh, I forgot to mention the bases on the IMAC isn't adjustable either, some of our editors literally have thousands of pounds worth of computer shitting on a plastic box to get it to their preferred height.
A TB 10gb ethernet adapter costs 500 pounds??? Aren't those things like $30?
You can put standard M.2 SSDs in +2013 Macs/Macbooks with a $10 adapter.
What's wrong with Finder?
Vesa mount holes are very expensive goy you need to pay extra for that privilege
If you can find me a cheaper 10gbe adaptor, even SFP and second hand I'll love you. I'd even go for a usb3 to 10gbe, don't need full speed for anything apart from the server for a while.
They're 2014+ 5k imacs so everything is already SSD and anything HDD has been replaced already, when I say storage I mainly mean NAS/SAN which is limited by the network speed before the other I/O right now. But I tend not to want to cut the imacs open and lose the warranty on them.
I find finder is just aggravating to use coming from windows and linux guis. I'll remember the short cuts one day.
>t. mactoddler
mbps don't have soldered SSD, at least the 13 2015 I have. You can replace it, but, depending on the model, it is not standard. So you'll need an ssd with the same apple (?) connector.
RAM is soldered on most new models, though.
1. They last for a long time
2. Apple provide unparalleled customer support, 3. Normie proof software solutions that solve high level tasks like calendar & Mail sync, backups, multi device sync, Photo sharing.
4. They look nice.
5. They are a status symbol.
6. Apple absolutely dominates the market of high end laptop sales in developed nations through lifestyle marketing and branding that is extremely effective.
7. The ghost of Steve Jobs haunts university faculty who don’t buy into the Apple vision.
What wrong with this? (those are canadabux BTW, so like $30 us)
You can’t install Linux easily on the 2017 MacBook pros. Seriously look up how incompatible they are with Linux now.
The touch bar Macbook "Pros" have soldered SSDs.
SSH.
If I had access to a massive supercomputer or a computational cluster I'd use a mac too. They're modern rendition of pic related
You get a terminal out of the box.
That terminal comes with SSH out of the box.
And it's wrapped in a shiny aluminum box with plenty of battery life to work an entire shift without having to plug it in.
Yeah, but Mac OS is fucking hard to use at an enterprise level. Connecting network shares and printers to a mac is fucking silly.
>So you'll need an ssd with the same apple (?) connector.
They're standard M.2 SSD's just with a different pin layout, and a bit longer. Because they're longer, there's room for an adapter that just changes the pin layout.
MAC
IS
A
PIECE
OF
SHIT
it just works
good screen/battery life
unix with MS Office and Adobe apps
>10gbe
You're a whole order of magnitude out.
Specifcally the regular macbook weighing less than a pound, amazing screen, paper thin, and dual boot windows and a linux-like system is why I chose the macbook.
For the desktops, phooey. Theres just no good OS-X in Desktops. Even the OS-X on the laptop is "ok" but not practical for anything outside of dabbling in Kubernetes and Docker for an hour a night.
>apple funds uni
>part of contract is that you have to buy their product
gee i wonder
Because they don't get viruses fool. They are more secure. Can't have important school stuff on a uncompromisable laptop/desktop
Ahh.
You could look into a Thunderbolt-to-PCI breakout box + a standard desktop card. Wouldn't cost any more, and would leave you with other expansion options).
...quick googling shows external PCI thunderbolt chassis start at $200 USD, so then add whatever ethernet card you want on top. Would be a lot less than 500 pounds!!!
>Why is it that most professionals, researchers, and university students use Macs?
I don't think this is true at all, user.
Except they aren't at all and that's just apple's marketing BS?
Usability & productivity
FagOS is a virus.
Its reliable. And dog simple to fix/maintain in large quantities
community college doesn't count user
Reliability, better warranty and support, less options to dig through (normies hate research), easy to use OS. Basically it's less to worry about so they can focus on things that actually matter.
>macshit
>reliability
Good joke.
>familiar environment in which to develop software
>brew is awesome
>aesthetic as fuck, hardware and software
>safari is greatest browser
>new 2017 imac has screen that actually makes the 2k price tag not so bad
>easy to move, all in one solution
cons:
>apple buys runt of the litter processors
>expensive
>shit chiclet keyboard impossible to type on, made for tiny hands
>shit mouse that left-clicks 20% of the time when you right-click
>have to game through wine
>can't open it up easily to upgrade hardware
Its because simplicity.
Most mac users probably don't know what a unix is
Do any Macs have HDR?
For megabux in 2017 they should.
>not just using Apple Magic Touchpad
It's because Apple has invested massively over the years to inject their products and reliance on them through the educational system. Have you ever heard a stallman talk? He always talks about this shit.
it's a Unix system with lots of commercial software and developer support, polish and hardware integration that still costs fuck all in the grand scheme of things when you're going to be using it for 4-5 years and beyond anyway
historically Apple IIs and Macs were a fixture in education due to incentives, and the LaserWriter with PageMaker made the Macintosh the only serious platform for desktop publishing which also spilled over into 2D graphics in general, Macs really did blow PCs the fuck out once especially for graphical work
not to mention better brand image and smarter marketing creating a psychological bias, nobody aspires to own pajeet's ugly shit brown and Dell logo-covered XPS 13 especially when the first and usually only thing the shills will talk about is the price, which subconsciously instills the idea that you're "settling" for something just because it's cheap, not because it's actually good
>tfw when you realize linux is just mac OS for poor people
i wish i wasn't a poorfag
at least i can use a mac theme and pretend my $100 thinkpad is a macbook pro
P3 color and HDR are basically the same. The 2015 iMac was the first to have DCI-P3 support.
If you need this to be explained to you it's because Microsoft has already brainwashed you beyond any hope of recovery.
Just try one. May that'll help.
>has invested massively over the years to inject their products and reliance on them through the educational system
You also described Microsoft.
>Sup Forums spergs out about Linux
>Sup Forums spergs out about muh custom gaymen rig high end hurr video games
tfw grew up and wanted to waste less time tinkering with my computer so I bought a mac
tfw it's just Linux without the bugs/autism and it does everything I want to do and is generally extremely nice and comparable to my custom rig except for video games which I grew out of because I am no longer 15, although it's okay for those too
>hurr it cost $300 more than if you built it yourself!
k
>that's overpriced user!
i have a job
these threads never go well though because this place is full of 15 year olds and literal indians
>mactoddler too much of a brainlet for technology
Not surprised.
>>new 2017 imac has screen that actually makes the 2k price tag not so bad
is the 2017's screen better than the LG Ultrafine 5k monitors they sell or are they the same panel?
HDR and DCI-P3 have nothing to fo with each other. You can have them exclusively, which would be pointless, but you can.
DCI-P3 is a colorspace, it simple tells up to how much saturation you can have in each color. HDR increases the number of discrete colors you can have in this colorspace, and together with displays that can output more light, they use some of those extra values to be able display highlights.
oh god it's that mentally ill guy who spams "mactoddler" and the same 10 images from 2014 repeatedly lmao
you're gonna end up on /r9k/ and then eventually kill yourself dude
btw hiding this comment recursively so i can't see your reply, keep your autism to yourself lmao
I literally work for one of the biggest STEM universities in the US and almost no one uses Macs.
Most engineering software isn't MacOS native, clusters run linux, profs and students that do actual research overwhelmingly use windows/linux PCs.
The only people we support that use Macs for the most part are administrative- namely people who only check email.
>using the tragic trackbad
...
>it's a wintoddler who thinks "building" gaming PCs requires technical literacy episode
are you going to dump your gay porn collection while screeching "mactoddler" or what you fucking betamale? are you going to do anything about it but cry?
>buys or uses apple products
>calls others betamale
Is this what they call ironic shitposting?
posting this from a 7 year old thinkstation my little whiny bitch friend
And here we can see a mac shill desperately spouting about gay porn after being confronted with irrefutable evidence of daily mac shill threads.
>Most engineering software isn't MacOS native
A lot of them don't even support Windows 10.
I give no fucks about your whereabouts, you're defending literal assprobers, you're either a cuck or a faggot yourself.
>he hasn't accepted the reality that Sup Forums is now a tech marketing board like anywhere else that is full of shills of all kinds
or are you one of those brainwashed wintard/droidcuck consumers who still tries to act like they're "free-thinking?"
The best you got for Autodesk software support is Maya and Fusion 360 which is going to take forever to develop into a replacement for Inventor/Mudbox/etc.
No Creo (thus no windchill support).
No Solidworks.
No Mastercam.
Basically no support for just about any instrument specific software- granted 99% of that shit is terrible software but it's kinda important to have if you're doing research.
Mac Labview is a piece of shit and doesn't have a lot of modules supported in MacOS. Labview also is a piece of shit in general on Windows but again- important piece of software for research.
No Ansys.
Abaqus is best ran on clusters.
No MSC software. No Nastran, no Patran, no ADAMS.
Basically if you're trying to do real work on a Mac, you're doing it by using your $2000 laptop as a really cool looking SSH terminal into a real computer that does.
Applecare is good for normal people, and shit for anything enterprise.
Most of the big packages do but yeah, Win10 support is missing from various software because Engineering software by and large is insanely shit.
>accuse someone of buying/owning something
>get educated that they don't own it or buy it
>I-I don't care! you criticized me so you're one of them!
lmao just kill yourself you braindead consumertard
You also have to consider that a lot of people buy a mac and become enamored with it. I shit on apple forever, then I got an iMac and became an evangelist. It definitely has some sort of... power... over your mind... must... suck... cocks...
HDR is basically just extreme display contrast + brightness, yes?
You're a fucking child. come back when you're 18
I use it because it's not fucking atrocious to use the GUI (as with windows, gnome, kde), and the UI doesn't require fiddling around with, but it still has terminal, zsh, ssh, and all the typical unix tools I would expect.
the display is also segmented into zones for per zone control of contrast and brightness, but basically yes