If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
GPUs: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 4K >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory
also she didn't put the ram in dual-channel :( stop inserting your waifu into the op
Carson Adams
I want a 1070, and these are my 4 cheapest options in Canada. Which is the most reliable manufacturer here? Are there any significant differences between the cards?
Matthew Stewart
2nd or 4th
Cooper Morgan
Should I manually install Chipset drivers for my Ryzen system or leave it to W10? The MSI package for my mobo is so bloated and the launcher says Radeon graphics so it's not inspiring much confidence.
The second one is actually $599, not $627. Which one is the better choice? Is the FTW version worth $50 more?
Matthew Wood
Is 144hz a meme for non-fps?
Jonathan Price
Should put a line in the op about how coffeelake is hard to come by because of the paper launch.
Jack Sanders
>>NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. >>G4560/G4600
Kevin Cook
What GPU should I get with my ryzen 1700? For dual monitor (144Hz) setup?
Leo Clark
What are you trying to ask? If you are never planning to get 144 fps don't buy the monotor, duh. If you are, consider it.
Carson Murphy
1080 Ti
Eli Morris
Racing games are amazing at 144fps, I enjoy them more than FPS games. It feels much more fluid, I can't imagine playing racing games at 60hz anymore. Other kinds of games not so much, for example I've been playing Fallout 4 lately and it turns out that game is capped to 60fps due to physics stuff, other singleplayer games like Mordor also don't benefit from the 144hz as much, but it's still nice to have.
Be wary, once you go 144hz you never go back. I found myself upgrading my GPU because I want to continue getting 144fps or more (even playing on lowest doesn't give me that much fps on my shitty old GPU).
Juan Wright
Should I get the Ryzen 3 1300x for high performance gaming, since I won't be video editing or creating content that would require extra cores?
Lincoln Cruz
Get the 1200
Christopher Lee
Why? I should mention that I've never overclocked before.
Oliver Brown
Are there any pre-built PCs that are equal or cheaper to this in leaf dollar, and is equal or better as a computer? ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/crC3r7 If so, how can I improve mine to make it better/cheaper?
You probably don't need an 8400 CPU. Have a look into Ryzen 3 or an i5 7400, depending on the games you play.
Don't get a single fan GPU
You can probably get similar RAM for cheaper and you can get a 240gb SSD for around €40 cheaper on Amazon
Adrian Perez
Around 1000
Logan Smith
Is having g-sync for a 1070 ti worth $250?
Jaxson Gutierrez
Planning a PC for a friend, he specifically requested that it will be able to run ARK and Sword Art Online; his budget is about 850-900€. Is the R5 1400 a good enough option or could I go with a 3 1200? Please point out any fuckups to me.
although if your fine only having 2 Ram slots go for it, its a solid board
Noah Robinson
EVGA is the best warranty for Canada.
Jordan Perry
Overclocking isn't hard. Honestly you have a bit of a false assumption in the question "Ryzen 3 1300x for high performance gaming, since I won't be video editing or creating content that would require extra cores?" which implies that gaming does not benefit from extra cores, which it does. Generally speaking, you should get the R3 1200, R5 1400, or R5 1600 and overclock. Gaming performance is good using the 1200 but better performance can be had with the higher thread count CPUs, with the 1600 basically being the best of the three but also being the last decent gaming CPU in the Ryzen lineup since the two extra cores of the 1700 and up don't help in games enough to justify their cost.
Get 3000MHz RAM You could also drop to the R3 1200, which would save you about 120USD, more in CDN. The R3 1200 is a good match for the 1060
If you're talking about ARK: Survival Evolved, you'll want at least a GTX 1060 pcgamesn.com/ark-survival-evolved/ark-survival-evolved-pc-graphics-performance-4k You can see there that the reviewer gets an avg of 25FPS with a GTX 1060 on Epic, and assuming scaling on the GTX 1080 between the High and Epic presets still holds, on High (which is the lowest you want to go, according to that review), the GTX 1060 will get a +50% framerate bonus, so a constant 40FPS might be achievable. A 1050Ti probably can't hold 30FPS on High
It looks like the game isn't CPU bound at all, but given the performance of AMD's graphics cards in that bench, you'd want to check before you use a Ryzen CPU. If the game runs well on Ryzen, you'll probably be able to use a 1200 without issue, given the 80FPS possible with a 4c locked i5.
Get fast RAM, 3000-3200MHz. There was some nice 3200 CL14 Samsung "b" Die floating around in the USA
Sebastian Anderson
Does RAM speed matter tho? Ive heard the it barely makes a difference, and is not worth the extra cost.
Jonathan Sanders
Any last thoughts?
Austin Walker
you're missing a processor
Eli Murphy
>G4560/G4600 lol
Justin Gray
I have the i5 8400 already
Joseph Phillips
If you know that you're going to stick with the Nvidia ecosystem, yeah get a Gsync monitor. If you're brand agnostic, not worth it.
>i5 7400 Still way overpriced. Fuck no.
Might want a difference CPU for 144Hz What's your resolution, and will you game on both monitors at the same time?
For gaming it does, both for Intel and AMD.
Jackson Morgan
see
Noah Collins
So my 770 (02GP42773KR) just crapped out, it started artifacting, crashed my video, and now it's crashing my computer. Put it in another PC and it crashed it during driver installation.
Bought it in april 2014 from a fucking shitty 3rd party that isn't a authorized reseller to EVGA (provantage.com) for $330 and it apparently has a 3 year warranty. Do you think EVGA will show me pity and RMA it for me? If I shouldn't bother, what's the best way to get money out of this without scamming? I'm poor and starving :(
Josiah Barnes
i guess you gotta starve
Jayden Campbell
If it's outside of warranty, they probably won't RMA. You can still try though.
You could also gamble and find someone to BGA rework or reflow the chip, but that would be $50 at the least and you have no guarantee of successful repair or a lasting repair. If you can't RMA and you don't want to try to repair, you can sell your dead card for quite a bit.
Isaiah Long
>you can sell your dead card for quite a bit.
Where?
Jackson Nelson
OP is a faggot, you removed Vega 56 which is at $400 MSRP.
William Bell
>au.pcpartpicker.com/list/pZZm6X finally completed my first build. Its for 60/40 gaming/film and I've tried to make it very quiet for watching with good airflow potential for load. thoughts?
Leo Young
What brand of PSU are good? Which one should I avoid?
Oliver Parker
oh and forgot to mention - I have heaps of external storage and I plan to get another ssd a few months after building
Lucas Gray
He might have been copy / pasting from an older thread or have the revision he posted saved somewhere. I just added that line the other day, maybe it got posted once or twice.
Vega is a pretty power hungry GPU compared to the GTX 1080 though..
eBay, for sure.
Cooper Russell
What if I bought the 1300x and overclocked it?
Connor Foster
You could, but you wouldn't see any benefit as opposed to overclocking the R3 1200, and the 1200 is cheaper.
Swap to i5 8400 and 1080Ti, unless that rendering work happens often enough to make the extra threads worth it
Cameron Lee
My father keeps trying to convince me to just upgrade my GPU and not "waste money" upgrading my CPU (I'd be paying for it all anyway so I don't know why he's adamant about cost), but I know that pairing an RX 580 GPU with an FX-6300 CPU will create a heavy bottleneck, but he doesn't really get it and I stutter a lot under the pressure of trying to explain this stuff.
John Long
I want to put some lights in my pc. My idea is basically have red and green flashing effect for christmas. Which strips would be good for this?
Robert Kelly
>4TB seagate external drive >$80 What is the catch?
Jordan Bennett
Not sure I want to compromise on the CPU. I built an i5 system in 2012 and I'm still using it today, wishing I had gone with the i7 instead.
Will games still not take advantage of more than 6 threads in 2022?
Owen Robinson
Just tell him that the CPU is utter trash even compared to ones from back in it's day.
Eli Powell
>I stutter a lot under the pressure of trying to explain this stuff Life is pain.
Anyway I have an FX-6350 and an RX 470 and I find that the pairing is pretty good. If I were you I'd just OC the FX-6300 and get the RX 580 and see how you like it. If you're still not satisfied upgrade your CPU
Landon Smith
5400RPM, binned for early failure.
Colton Morales
What is stopping you from saying fuck you and upgrading it? Is he gonna crack open your case and check your cpu everyday?
Connor Evans
...
Thomas Jackson
That's what my dad said. He's like "If you think you need to upgrade the CPU after getting the GPU, then you should consider an upgrade", but it'd be kind of a pain installing a GPU and playing a game just to realise the CPU is a bottleneck instead of just swapping out both at the same time
Levi Hall
No, I guess it's just kind of annoying. He has a co-worker whose son is studying Computer Science so he's getting his talking points from his co-worker
Sebastian Davis
Installing a new GPU is the easiest thing to do in a new rig.
Gabriel Harris
>it'd be kind of a pain installing a GPU and playing a game just to realize the CPU is a bottleneck Honestly you sound like a cunt.. swapping a graphics card is ridiculously easy. Swapping a whole motherboard out will take you a WHOLE lot more time. A graphics card swap will take 5 minutes, including downloading drivers. A mobo swap will take a couple of hours, including reinstalling the OS and fucking around with the heatsink.
Landon Gomez
Buying another internal hard drive because my current 2tb is nearing 10 years old. What should I look for?
Elijah Russell
Additionally, you're assuming the CPU will be a bottleneck, but it probably won't. What game are you trying to play? An example would be Wolfenstein 2
Zachary James
>Honestly, you sound like a cunt Whoa, what did I do to you?
Xavier Walker
Some older titles, and some newer releases like Monster Hunter World.
I think I'd rather just upgrade the rig a good bit now and then not have to worry about it for another few years.
Lincoln Richardson
I'm not sure Wolfenstein 2 is the best pick. I recently played it with my Phenom II 1055T 2.8 GHz and GTX 970 on max settings 1920x1080 and it never dipped below 60 FPS and I had 80-120 FPS most areas. However there's plenty of CPU demanding games that are unplayable for me.
Michael Ortiz
Also, a motherboard swap will take hours? I doubt it. YouTube videos I've seen building a PC get the motherboard in in like 20 minutes
Owen Cook
You sounded whiny and weak
William Murphy
Okay /gee/ I come to you today for advice. I built my PC a few months ago but there's two things I regret. My ram and my gpu. I plan on upgrading both very soon. For ram, I plan on getting 16gb 3000 or 3200. For gpu, either a 1060 6GB or a 1070.
Now, which should I upgrade first? Gpu or ram? Should I get the 1070 or save some money and get a 6GB 1060? I'm only going to be playing on 1080/60Hz.
Aiden Ortiz
is 5400rpm ok?
Angel Torres
GPU will pretty much always have the largest impact for game performance even at 1080p. Do that first and get better RAM for your ryzen to chew in the future when you have more money
Charles Sanders
How future-proof is the Ryzen 3 series? I'd rather not have to worry about big upgrades again for another two years or so
Colton Campbell
gpu first Ram makes a big difference for Ryzen, but ultimately won't make game all that much more playable
Dylan Campbell
test
Robert Parker
>1 TB SSD why
Aaron Nguyen
not him but I hate the noise HDDs make
Noah Wood
>unity/blender work >intel This isn't even good bait.
Joshua Morgan
Okay I'll upgrade gpu first. Should I get a 1060 6GB or 1070? Obviously, 1070 is the better card but is it worth the $200 extra? Is it overkill for 1080/60Hz? Would I be better off saving some money and getting a 1060?
Jeremiah Morgan
Believe me, it will take you a lot longer if you haven't done it recently. And the fact that you thought swapping out the graphics card would be a pain indicates you haven't been under the hood too much.
Agreed, but Wolfenstein is a decent example of a corridor shooter. If we look at an open world game like Assassin's Creed: Origins, you can see that an an OC'd FX6300 wouldn't bottleneck an RX 580 at Ultra. (My stock 6350 is just below the 8350, usually.) For this title it's pretty hard to get it to run at 60FPS period, because you have to have an R5 1600 at least and and you have to dial back on the graphics setting significantly to give the 580 breathing room over 60FPS. gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/assassin-s-creed-origins-test-gpu-cpu
RAM is fine. Not worth the cost to swap it out You need an SSD You can get either of the cards. Personally I'd suggest the 1060.
Definitely will last for two years, probably more
Logan Evans
Why the hate for Pentium chips? Aren't they basically an i3 now?
Luke Williams
Everything above and including the G4560 (2c/4t) are basically as good as old i3s (2c/4t).
Tyler Flores
do you want to turn settings up? can you afford it? get the 1070 ti imo
Nathaniel Diaz
Look at that, the plucky little CPU that could. I hope the coffee lake pentiums are dropped soon.
Owen Cook
Should I pull the trigger on the Sapphire version of the RX 580? It's getting 5 star Amazon reviews (about 4/4 reviewers in total), but I'm hearing a lot on forums of people getting coil whine with this card, and that's something I desperately want to avoid. But it's also one of the cheapest versions available.
Eli Adams
Well, not coil whine with this one in particular, but the Nitro+ version of the Sapphire brand of this card
Juan Nelson
you might want to kill yourself you autistic intel shill
Nolan Mitchell
>nvidia >vr your gonna have a bad time and thats not even mentioning that housefire cpu
Ryan Foster
What processor for 1440p 144hz?
Luke Wood
>someone mentions Intel in a neutral light >"FUCKING INTEL SHILLS GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD" >someone writes a master's dissertation on why AMD is the objectively better choice and anyone who thinks otherwise is subhuman >"yes, this is fine"
Dominic Sullivan
Im really happy with mine. I was debating the 1200 or 1600, decided to put the extra $100 towards other parts like a ssd and faster ram, the upgrade path is always there in 2 years.
Jaxon Carter
Should I >buy a used 3770 + used 8x2 of RAM (cheap, can do right now) >buy new mobo, new 8x1 RAM, and a r5 1600 (need to save up for it)
Jeremiah Cook
What does your current rig not do that you need it to? That will help dictate what you should do
Camden Davis
Multitask while gaming. That i5 is pretty strong, but it gets capped real quick.
