Why is browser mining wrong?
It seems to be the perfect alternative to advertisements.
Ignoring children that literally think everything should be provided for free, what is the problem with a website consuming 5% of your CPU to keep it afloat since you're a worthless piece of shit that doesn't contribute in any other way?
I provide my websites for free, fuck off OP. Anyone with a job can pay a few hundred a year out of love for his community.
>Why is browser mining wrong?
Browser mining isn't wrong.
Not alerting the user about it is.
>what is the problem with a website consuming 5% of your CPU
Except it's never, ever 5%. In fact most of the sites incorporating jsminers will actively try and use 100%.
it's not wrong and it's also not wrong to block it entirely either.
So, hypothetically, if I were to design a porn site/forum that used in-browser mining, focusing for around 5%-10% of CPU usage to cover management and development costs then redistributed whatever profits back to users who created an account... That would be desirable?
>That would be desirable?
If you alert the user about it. The problem is mining at 5% probably won't be profitable enough.
That's the problem here, finding the line between profitable and not shit to the user experience.
If it's optional and off by default, I don't really see anything wrong with that. I don't think that it should be on by default since you're sucking their juice out without their permission, which they might want for other things.
Because fuck javascript.
What about laptops? It will cost you heat and noticeable battery life, and it will be disproportional (way more than 5% in battery life and more than 5% of heat).
I have no idea what regulates CPU usage. Surely these miners could advance to actually accurately throttle to a fraction of total usage.
>off by default
Nope. Get fucked. There will be a banner that alerts them to it though. The site will make its money primarily off these inconsistent users. The loyal individuals will be rewarded by simply making an account then they can opt out of mining but then won't receive any dividends.
I think on a picture porn site you'll have some decent view times so 5% may be fine.
>get fucked
It's the subtle imagery and calmed rhetoric that brings you site owners the respect you deserve
>i treat my users like mere objects that either make me money or content for money indirectly
>why do these wicked users block my coin scripts and ads? They aren't THAT intrusive!
Its wrong if you don't disclose it.
Its also wrong if you allocate all available threads to that shit, since browsing performance suffers a big deal in that case.
Besides these points I like the idea.
>Retarded users subsidise all other decent users
>NO. Think about the fucking retards that don't even know what a JavaScript is and don't use over 50% of their CPU on their Facebook box
> Why is browser mining wrong?
Because I don't want it.
>my site appeals to retards in the first place
If you're looking to build a community of any kind, retards or no retards, which you do, as you mentioned registration, you're not going to get far with that.
You should be paying me to make this post in your shitty thread
Ignorant, lazy, or otherwise, exploiting them based on that just makes you an asshole.
a can already see it
>to continue with your free download allow us to mine for 60 seconds
morality's a spook but if you think burning your laptop like a chem addict on a cross, be my guest, you spineless cuckold
>morality's a spook but if you think burning your laptop like a chem addict on a cross is the right thing to do, be my guest, you spineless cuckold*
sorry guys, hard to type from my high horse
Majority of traffic for some sites come from mobile users. Increased CPU usage means faster battery drain and sluggish peformance.
Majority of browser devices are phones and other running on battery. You really want to decrease already short battery life?
>5% of CPU
Really? Last time I've heard of this it was a full core and potentially GPU if browser allowed that
My computer, I run what I want.
>mining with an interpreted language
>a slow as fuck, inefficient piece of shit that only stays relevant because of it's Frankensteined "features" that weren't even part of the original capabilities
Or donations, or a store. You don't have to fuck the user in the ass. If those aren't enough, then it's probably not that good of a website in the first place.
>using 100% CPU
not a problem if your OS scheduler isn't complete shit
Come again?
How is some browser tab eating 100% CPU acceptable in any circumstance?
depends on what the all-consuming thread is doing.
if it has to access video, disk, anything that isn't plain memory for any significant amount of time (i.e. any blocking I/O), the slowdown is noticeable.
so youre gonna donate or buy shit?
it's fine desu, much better than advertisements which really are just vectors for spreading malware
Brave has the right idea with BAT's. You don't have to mine that shit on the fly, you're paying with your attention anyway.
not that user, but i have before
>not a problem
>fast forward to 2027
>ads are a thing of the past
>adblockers forced all websites to try to steal your cpu power to pay for upkeep using buttcoin mining
>your processor is completely bogged down if you have more than tabs open than you have cores
>"what are you poor? just buy the newest Intel 64 Core Goy Edition processor and you can open up to 64 tabs on google chrome"
>yfw ads now steal your cpu power on purpose rather than using obnoxious videos/flash animations
>must now use minerblockers to get around this
Why would you even defend this?
That would finally make websites computationally efficient though, because it would profit them.
Now my computer grinds to a halt displaying some shitty javascript crap even without a miner
because I'm not selling my CPU time to browse a fucking website with no real business model other than ads
I am that user and yeah I might, depending on the quality of the site. I've done it in the past, Homestar Runner DVD's and the AVGN game but I've never really had the cash to just give it away for free though.
>mining on CPU
>computationally efficient
It's only a matter of time before the large websites start using coin miners instead of ads
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>children that literally think everything should be provided for free
it's funny, you can't turn it off for one minute can you?
you need to read pic if you want to make any headway whatsoever, as it stands you talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded
as far as your other question goes, people will start to block mining as they are currently blocking ads, they don't need to argue with you or gain your consent to do it
>caring if it's efficient when it's entirely on somebody elses dime
>picture porn site
>decent view times
Pick one
Exactly this. I already hate websites running with pajeet tier Javascript code…
spook is a spook, fuck off retard teenage pseud
>Why is browser mining wrong?
It's not.
Not to mention, it's as easy to bypass as ad's.
Good point. It will also increase your electricity bill wether your on a laptop or a desktop.
On the other side the website owners don't even have to pay their electricity for mining. That's more profitable than mining on your own hardware. That's so clever I wonder how that idea didn't came up way earlier.
>Not to mention, it's as easy to bypass as ad's.
For now. Until they start asking for proof of work.
>enabling javascript
>streaming some Sup Forums
>random free streaming site
>open video page, f12 into adblock, block everything unrelated to the video
>including some coinhive websocket
>while watching the video, notice the "items blocked" number on the icon keeps rising
>check console
>some JS fragment in the main html page keeps trying to open random websockets every 5 seconds to ws[random number].coinshit.com
No way I'm going to EVER let pajeet miners run on my browser.
You get charged for the electricity used and your equipment is used heavily without permission. It costs you money. It's the same as someone reaching in your pocket and stealing cash.
>what is the problem with a website consuming 5% of your CPU
It's consuming 5% more of my CPU and electricity then it should be.
>Why is browser mining wrong? It seems to be the perfect alternative to advertisements.
how about you provide a valuable service to your users instead of relying on them clicking on ads or having a fast enough computer to generate you 0.001 cents of cryptocurrency per day?
>Ignoring children that literally think everything should be provided for free
it's ironic that you say this and post that picture, because the only "children" who think that are the retards who run shitty companies like facebook and google. they flood the internet with questionably "free" services, driving prices for similar services down to zero just so they can monopolize advertising. they are to blame, not your users
>what is the problem with a website consuming 5% of your CPU to keep it afloat since you're a worthless piece of shit that doesn't contribute in any other way?
i typically have javascript disabled so this isn't even going to work on me, the web is for transmitting information, letting some shitty website author run arbitrary scripts on my computer is a recipe for abuse
>Ignoring children that literally think everything should be provided for free
Aren't you the one that wants things (webhosting) for free?
>Wait, you want to open a barbershop and have OTHER PEOPLE pay you to keep it open for doing absolutely nothing except provide a service!?
Because your website is worthless piece of shit not worth electricity it consumes. You should be thanking anyone who by mistake happens to visit it.
>AND you're not even making profits but redistributing profits back to customers?!?!!?!!
>What a fucking IDIOT you are!!! Just cut people's hair for free and ask them to donate if they want to but don't be too intrusive about it, like just leave a tip jar in the corner OTHWRWISE YOURE A SCUMBAG
Wow, you're a fuckin' sperg, dude. You literally want free webhosting. I was just pointing out the irony in that.