For someone who's never used a Mac before, how is the 2012 MBP? (Before retina)

For someone who's never used a Mac before, how is the 2012 MBP? (Before retina)

I can get a LNIB one for $750 CAD, plus I'd probably upgrade the RAM and add an SSD.

I'd only be using it for Adobe PS/Illu, browsing, and listening to music.

Its fine, go for it.

It’s not bad. If it’s kinda what you’re looking for just get it. iTunes and safari on Mac is a buttery smooth setup. Keep it on Sierra if you just want it to work. Put it on High Sierra if you’re brave. The biggest deal is that the new file system is really good on performance genuinely, but it could also be considered experimental still, for the time being.

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its good because you can bump the specs up a fair bit for not that much money (last macbook that was easily upgradable by the user), stick a caddy instead of the cd drive for two SSD's and put as much ram as you can in (unsure if it was 16 or 32gb)

The screen is pretty shit desu compared to the Retina, it was the one thing that turned me off it, but if you plug it into an external display you should be good. Get the i7 and it should be just fine with all your needs.

Battery should last a while too.

>$750 CAD
>for a throttling housefire pile of shit
>sandy bridge with intel HD
>worn out battery
>no cooling
>runs 100+ degrees C if you do anything slightly demanding
>doesn't even come with a GPU for acceleration

It's shit.

>I'd only be using it for Adobe PS/Illu, browsing, and listening to music.
Any $200 laptop from 2012 with an i7 and new SSD wouldn't even reach 20% utilization at that workload.

>$750
>gen 2 core i5/i7

I need to invest in Apple stock. Appletards are literally braindead.

I have one. I would advise against it, especially at $750. I like how upgradeable it is, but the resolution is too low to do any real work.

It's not worth anywhere near $750. It's a slow piece of shit with a low resolution display.

if you buy a mac today do not buy older than 2013. the battery improvement with haswell chips is night and day. you go from 6 hours to 10 hours on a pro and 8 to 13 on an air.

I like the 2013 version. I have it since 2013. Wouldnt get a 2012. 2013 has ssd

>2012
>$750
Applefaggots will buy a 2MB 486 if they slap a gay fruit logo on it. LMAO

I'm not normally a thinkpad shill, but if you're going to get a 2012 laptop with crappy resolution, why not get a thinkpad or other business laptop for like $300 instead (probably with a much better CPU as well)?

>buying a sager

What's wrong with sager? I've heard pretty good things overall about clevo laptops, other than some of them being bulky.

Like I said, it would be my first Mac so not sure how I'm an Applefaggot but ok.

I guess given the mixed reviews I'll hold out for now. I really was just interested in trying out Mac OS since I've never been an Apple user.

like a few people here have said, get a retina 13" desu, itll be a little more expensive but will be far more useable and will actually get you decent battery life with the newer CPU's.

>not buying a sager

It's a good laptop for its age, but it is NOT worth $750. Not in any universe.
$300 or lower, maybe. But nothing above that price. Period.

>macshit
>usable

Pick one.

Literally every single Mac ever, even desktops, have been throttling overheating piles of shit because Jobs was an autistic freak that hated even the tiniest bit of fan sound.

buy the retina one. i have a 2014 13in pro and its still pretty good.
recently i got a new i7/16g ram thinkpad and for basic tasks/battery its worse than a 3 year old mac...
i'll prob get 12 in macbook next year. looks comfy af

I also hate it.
Spent around €300 on cooling.
No noise and no throttling.
PC master race I guess.

running both cpu and gpu at 100% for hours on a portable laptop

are you retarded?

Relative had it for awhile and it worked for her when she went through college. Looked at the specs and it had an i7 and was very nice! Worked well even into today.

Get something newer though OP, please.
You'll just end up spending the same money buying another used laptop in three years where you could instead buy the new laptop and upgrade in five-six years.

perhaps the older laptops throttled, and got hot (i had a 2013 13" retina that frequently got to 95c while editing photos etc) but I have a new 2017 15" which stays nice and cool even while doing demanding things like exporting photos from lightroom or 4k video editing in FCPX.

For a computer as slim and trim as it is, with such "shit" specs on paper, it performs comparably to my desktop rig (i7 7700k/32gb ram/1080ti) for most tasks with the home rig doing things maybe 10-20% faster (also you can play any gayme you want on the rig)

When I sold my MBP 13 a few days ago I got $900 for it, and paid 1600 for it 3 years prior, and for typical everyday usage it ran just fine, much better then any windows laptop with similar specs from the same time, and I sure as hell guarantee you couldn't sell a windows laptop for basically half the retail price 3 years down the line kek

It’s complete & utter fucking shit you goddamned motherfucking idiot

Have you considered getting or making a Hackintosh-able machine?

I got interested after I found out the Thinkpad t420 is surprisingly compatible for a laptop, the main thing not working being the onboard wifi. I have High Sierra on mine now.

Hackintosh is illegal. You can’t legally do that without law enforcement needing to be involved. Don’t do it.

>$700 loss
>b-b-b-but w-w-indows

I bought a 4700MQ GT750M laptop in 2014 for $700.

Literally sold it last week for $500. Basically a $200 fee for using it for 4 years. It actually had a proper cooling system as well.

hackintosh is a great idea but there may be a few compatibility issues and niggles you will have to iron out for it to work flawlessly, but definetly give it a go if you arent interested in dropping a heap of change on a macbook, thinkpads are great

>Mac

you are substantially luckier then me then, my only windows laptop selling experience was a 2 year old POS Alienware m15x that I paid 2500 for and sold for $750 2 years later (after dell had replaced the graphics card twice for literally melting and the lights didn't work)

Don't get me wrong, I use windows every day and couldn't switch entirely to OSX, but credit should be given where credit is due, macbooks and apple products hold their value better then comparable windows products.

Niggles or NIGGER

both

The non-retina 2012 MBP is the last upgradable laptop.
Ram can go to 16.
It can take ssds.
It has 5 gbps usb 3,
firewire (only matters if you have other macs),
thunderbolt1 (an expansion option that's too expensive to use).

Get one if you can get it cheap.
I like mine.

>mac
Found your problem.

not worth the battery downgrade. just buy a newer macbook with 8gb. tbqh it runs just fine with 4gb because of macos's great memory management and pcie ssd speed swap. you don't need firewire and a standard install of macos will run only 15gb. so even a low end 120gb ssd on an air will set you up just fine for a work machine. if you need more space just setup a nas or pop in a cheap 120gb sd card.

>OP said Macbook Pro NON-retina

get off of your gaming rig and pick up a god damn book fag

I've been using similar MBP for about half a year and it was a terrible experience.
However, I'm a developer and I was putting that piece of throttling overheating crap under a huge deal of stress.
It should work just fine for you if you are only going to use it causally. Albeit, Photoshop is easily capable of overloading the laptop depending on what you're intending to do with it.
My main concern here would be the absurd price you're intending to pay for a piece of terrible hardware just to experience OSX. Won't buying a cheap but modern laptop be a better idea here?
Trackpad on Macs used to be incomparably better than the alternatives but that's no longer the case.
For everything else I'll suggest getting a hackintosh if you want OSX so much.

However, the bottom line is: if you're fine with intentionally overpaying for it, MBP will work just fine for casual day to day use.