IPhone 7 Plus in 2017

Buying a smartphone now and I checked all my choices and honestly. I went into this determined to want an Android. But now that I saw my choices, that is, either:

1) get modified Android with chink bloatware (ASUS, Huawei, Xiaomi, Honor, OnePlus, LG...)

2) get proper stock Android with quick updates (Pixel 2, Essential, an Android One phone)

>problem: no Pixel in my country
>no Essential phone in my country that I can see
>Android One phones seem to be all garbage

3) get an iPhone 7 Plus

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And I entered into this with an anti-Apple attitude but seeing how the Android scene is a total mess with updates, I can understand why people would go for the iPhone. And it's not that expensive if you don't go for the X (7 seems to be the more rational choice to me).

>inb4 muh custom ROMs
yeah, I'm a business man, I need things to work and be reliable, I'm not a 22 yr old kid who wants to tinker with his chinkfone

Buy the iphone 8.

Xiaomi Mi A1 Android one phone that's actually cheap, if you're a businessman you'll not want to waste 1k on a phone

Out of curiosity, why the 7 and not the 8? Are you buying the phone without a plan to subsidize it?

iOS is a total fucking mess and is even worse than android. Android is at least fixable, iOS is just a dumpster fire.

You cannot buy any other iPhone then the X or you'll be that poorfag loser. That social pressure is the whole point of an iphone.

You can have any other brand without this problem. Pick any phone you like or the iPhone X.

>glass back - breaks easier, all for wireless charging meme

not waterproof is kind of a deal breaker for me

I see no advanttage in 8 over 7. 7 has aluminium back, 8 has glass. btw 7 looks better too (matte black)

do you have evidence to support that?

OnePlus is one of the least bloated phones out there, the oxygen os sourcecode is public and doesn't feature any spyware really.
Take a look at the OnePlus 5T

I don't care about social pressure. I can afford an iPhone X but I don't like how it looks, and I choose 7 over 8 because of the aluminium back

Android chinkfones are all bloated and Pixel is not available in my country

Will OnePlus 5 get updates? Does it have Oreo/Treble?

Bullshit JB iOS is pretty usable. Been using iPhone all my life 1g 3GS 4 4s 5 6 6s jail broke them all and they play nice with Linux, the file system mounts natively thanks to libimobiledevice ifuse etc and I just drag and drop

Bullshit once again. I value my headphone jack for 24bit and will be holding on to my 6s for some time. I those got blue bubbles and the 6 design aesthetic is the same as 7 and 8... You don't want to be friends that is that petty. I think the X is an overpriced ugly mess.

All these opinions are shit... My banker friends in finance are pretty shallow and they are still paying off their jet black iPhone 7 and all of them don't like the dongle and how they scratched up so easily.

Apple has pissed of a fuckload of people and the shiny shiny reality distortion field is wearing off.

>m-m-m-muh security and updates
>has to install a backdoor and leave it wide open to get basic functionality

iToddlerism.

So you agree with me that iPhone 7 Plus matte black makes sense to buy even today?

I never owned an iPhone before. I'm just tired of the mess that is Android updates and ROMs and all this bullshit, I'm tired of it, I wanted a Pixel but Google is not available in my country so fuck them, I want to punish them by buying an iPhone now before Google completely takes over (which I believe they will in the future, Android keeps increasing its % share)

>ishit
>makes sense to buy

Pick one.

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Most 'waterproof' phones are basically splash proof, like most other phones, they just paid to get a certification on them, I've used my Xiaomi Mi Max regardless of rain for over a year now without a case and it's fine.

>but I don't like how it looks
Irrelevant. Buy the X or you're pathetic.

>buying iShit
Pathetic loser detected.

>2) get proper stock Android with quick updates (Pixel 2, Essential, an Android One phone)
Nokia maybe?

2 Rupees have been deposited into your designated shilling account™

Your comment doesn't make sense. Indians all use Android. Android has allmost 100% share in India.

For some reason my carrier only has Nokia 5 and 6, no 8

I'm not the one with an iPhone. I just warn iphone users that they are a complete losers for not getting the X.

iPhone is always the best choice.
Android is for Pajeets or poorfags/NEETs.
pic related

>germany
>poorfags

Yes but I would say go back further, 6, 6s, se are cheap as chips and hold their value. I am not an I zombie. My mac air runs only Debian and I got an Sam Galaxy 6 to play around with roms and learn about the android Eco system. I wasn't happy with the build and how much gaapps own the platform and is required for it to function... Some shit really pissed me off like build quality sound quality and prompts just to get a usb data mode when you plug it in.

It is what it is

Buy retail yes - Aquire second hand and use the fuck out of the hardware for a few years is pretty smart IMHO

Bah they fucked up. Vote with your wallet

What a shitpost. What are you ? A gay fashion fuck ? A shallow Facebook whore ? The situation is opposite. Good Apple hardware a few old is available cheap, lots of spares... Upgrade when it's a dual screen Safire slab.

>iPhone
Total shitshow and your iToy becomes a useless laggy paperweight after 2 updates.

Why do technology illiterate retards even come to Sup Forums?

It literally takes all of 2 minutes to flash a phone with the latest update.

If you can't handle that then take your fruity babby toy and fuck right off from Sup Forums and never come back.

You cannot buy used Apple hardware or you'll be laughing stock. Just get the damn X and you're good.

Have you ever been to Germany?

Why are you like, impossibly bad at trolling?

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>fruity babby toy

um....

>It is what it is
Didn't expect better reasoning from someone buying an iPhone.

Have you ever been to other European countries?

You're a businessman who has nothing better to do online than to develop sales pitch tactics for Apple.
Let me guess - it is what it is?

>yeah, I'm a business man, I need things to work and be reliable
You're a technology illiterate brainlet moron that can't handle a 5 minute task of updating a simple thing like a phone. Do CLI commands send you into a screeching terrified frenzy as well? Why do you even think you belong here? Fuck off back to /r/eddit and take your baby toy with you.

Mate I still use an iPhone 4s when I go mountain biking or camping. It's slower yes but it's totally functional for what I use it for

>cannot buy used hardware

Let me tell you a story. My best friend lost his iPhone 7 last year and was strapped for cash after travelling. I told him to get a smashed 6 and replaced the screen. He got a gold 6 and i gave him a black screen. Gold and Black. Apple doesn't do that. I built him a one of a kind. Chicks loved it... Every time we go out they call it daft punk phone... Totally unique and the guy is a software dev.

I hate paying for ishit but non jamal second hand hardware is really excellent because it's bullet proof and you skip the izombie tax and no one hate that. REALLY.

I'm just a sucker for 1080 240 fps and $k 60 fps, man. I'd get the 8 just for that.

I'm also in your situation. I've spent weeks looking for a new device (upgrading from the S6) and testing them in-store, and the only ones I've liked so far are the S8, XZ1 and P10 Plus, so basically I had to chose between a stuttering UI, a shitty camera and a non-oleophobic, cartoonish UI phones.

Then I tried the iPhone 8 Plus: snappy, fucking love the vibration, nice display, great camera, very responsive navigation through apps — just wonderful to use.

But holy shit, no USB-C, huge size for a 5,5" display, 999€ for the 256GB model in my country, around 300€ for a glass repair, no fast charging out of the box, no headphone jack (this I can live with)... Every fucking phone has a downside and I don't know what to do anymore.

Guess I'm waiting for next year flagships. Maybe the next Xperia is a little better than this year ones.

Although a lot of shit is thrown around when people talk about Sony phones, I honestly think it's a reasonable choice if you like stock(ish) android, good software support (at least 3 years and at that time you will already be switching to a new phone anyway) and you value build quality. I would consider choosing it over an iPhone if you don't want an ios device.

Like Norway? Denmark? Sweden?

Switzerland? All far wealtheier than Germany.

All Apple using countries.

I was trying to be the bigger man. A jailbreak exploit makes my phone more usable and unupdated I still feel a million time more safer than android and the support they recieve.

iTODDLERS BTFO

Too bad the cameras are terrible, all photos look watercolor-ish when zoomed in.

>i leave my door unlocked all day
>it's WAY safer than people who install their own locks

iBrainlet subhumans should just be rounded up and gassed for being a waste of oxygen.

This. I love the design (maybe not the sim tray and top and bottom plastic parts in the XZ1), UI and cameras in daylight situation. Now you try and snap a picture in in doors, even with plenty of light. Shitty stuff.

Sweet slow mo though

I'm from Denmark and apple products are for fags.

Those are not all countries in Europe. Those are far wealthier than Germany, but they aren't the real representatives of Europe as a whole.

Yeah that was a shitty thing to do. A physical local exploit that revolves around plugging my phone in and performing a lengthy crack with a pic is much better than reality an android browser pwn or some dodgy .apk will fuck my shit up

>choosing for a hundred of pajeet roms, rooting your phone, frying its battery in process and bricking the device is a "5 minute task"

Yeah. I seriously considered the XZ - beautiful phone (I don't mind the bezels), really good IPS display, good software, but the photos are just meh. Got the SE instead.

You can feel whatever they're paying you to feel. All Android custom ROMs are open source. I don't suppose you know what that means, but yes, there's nothing as secure as a proprietary operating system.

What fucking planet are you on ? I see many news stories with "FBI CANNOT UNLOCK TERRORIST IPHONE"

Has that happened to android device like ever ? Seriously ?

>choosing for a hundred of pajeet roms, rooting your phone, frying its battery in process and bricking the device is a "5 minute task"
Just stop giving this clown attention. Report and move on.

Thanks for proving beyond a shadow of a doubt you're a brainlet moron. Why are you even on Sup Forums if a simple fucking phone gives you that much trouble? Fuck off back to they're much more welcoming to brain dead fruit tards like yourself.

What phone do you use?

It's mainly an effort to restrict the kind of encryption phones currently have so these agencies has an easier access to them. Don't fall for it.

I actually owned an Xperia before (XA1 Ultra) that broke
Sony could be an option... XZ Premium or XZ1? I really don't need all the features they offer like slow mo video though, why don't they just release a good big screen phone with stock Android and update support without focusing so much on photo/video

I swear there are like 5 pajeets on Sup Forums who pathetically troll apple threads 24/7. The guy wants an iphone, stop being such a child about it. It's just a goddamn phone.

>Those are far wealthier than Germany
and they are majority Apple :)

majority Android is India, you see a pattern?

XZ1 has the same camera as the Premium, just not the 4K screen. It is on par with the rest of flagships in almost every aspect except for

1080p IPS display (it's fucking good and HDR anyways)
average to poor camera in low light

I'd recommend it, as I love the UI, but i't a 600$ phone so... Maybe for 400-500$ is worth it

DESU Apple is a pain in the ass for the authorities/FBI and has been for a long time

Google has always been very cooperative

But then which xperia woulld you recommend? XZ Premium ?

I am almost sure Indians come to Sup Forums and constantly post anti-Apple posts/propaganda

I am not sure why they feel they need to defend Android so much. Is it because Google's CEO is an Indian? National pride? (Just a guess)

XZ and XZ Premium all have plastic frames. It's not low-quality plastic AT ALL, but plastic, after all. The XZ1 has that same plastic, but only on the top and bottom, which should help a lot with the signal. In terms of build quality, I'd go with the XZ1.

So yeah, I'd recommend the XZ1. Just bear in mind the shitty low-light camera performance.

Also, since it's the first Xperia with Oreo, it's still buggy. I've read some random reboots here and there and the kind. These kind of problems should get fixed in the next couple of months.

Buy the iBone 8, it's the same shit.

We all know you'll just put it in a case anyway.

I really don't care about the camera quality.
I love Xperia design even though most people dislike it.
And I like Sony as a brand, and I like that they are so quick with updates... Oreo/Treble all already on XZ1... 3 years guaranteed updates. Excellent.

The only reason I didn't already buy the XZ1 is:

1) screen is smaller than I'm used to
2) it has lots of features that I don't need like 3d scanning, slow motion video, etc. - why do they even focus on these features that people won't use? I guess it's because they're for the Japanese market and the Japanese love novelty and making cute things like 3d scans and putting people in AR ettc. and then tthey show each other and say "Sugooiii!" - "Yabaii!"

Still, it's a good option. I narrowed my choice down to XZ1 vs iPhone 7 now

I'd get a Pixel if Google didn't hate my country. I was kind of a Google fanboi until I saw they don't sell Pixels here. Fuck them, I'll never forget this. I'll always hate them for it.

this shit is so dumb
shittle spends billions on marketing and has built one of the most powerful brands on earth that normaltards around the world actively aspire to own rather than just settle for like most android devices, they don't need to use retarded tactics like figuring out convoluted ways to consistently gimp their old devices when new ones come out to force people to buy new phones, most people will do that on their own and those that haven't already aren't going to be prompted by a slower device, in the end all that's going to do is take a shit on their meticulously crafted brand and make them shy away from iOS in the future on a subconscious level

if the retarded search interest graph was actually accurate to this allegation you would see it a lot smoother than right at product release dates since the previous models continue to exist and simply take lower-end roles in the line up
>b-but what about the ones they don't make anymore
wow it's almost like 4 year old shit isn't going to perform like brand new with a bloated to siht operating system and more bloated applications

the iPhone 8 has no advantage to iPhone 7 that I can see, I don't see it? same screen, same size, a slightly better processor (I don't do processor intensive tasks) and wireless charging (a meme?)

also, doesn't iPhone 7 come with iOS 10 but 8 with iOS 11? I read a lot of complaints about the 11 version

I lost my last XA1 Ultra to water
I loved it but I realized water resistance is a must

2 rupees have been deposited in your shill account Ranjeet.

I love the Xperia design, also. Don't mind the bezels at all. I love the iPhone design too, it's just the 4,7 model is just too small, and the 5,5 too big. Try the XZ1 in any store: you'd love the feeling in your hand. It's a 5,2 screen so, while not a great size, it's just good.

I'd get the pixel too, but here in Spain is fucking hard to get, and also too fucking expensive for what I think is too of a small screen or a shitty quality OLED one.

Anyways, what I said: try the XZ1 'cause I think you'll like it — it has a snappy UI in comparison to the beautiful yet laggy Samsung phones. Oh, and there's no headphones included in the box. Not a deal breaker for me but it is something important for some people.

As I said before, I don't think the phone is worth the 600€ tag price it has now in my country, but it'll probably be my next phone once it gets below 500€

Yeah that what i was saying. Apple and iOS even though a walled garden is much more secure in the real wireless world. And yet I just had some douchebags rip into me for using a physical jailbreak to obtain some more functionality.

I have used droid and rooted it an played around with roms and g apps and know all about the lack of updates to all but the most expensive droid Googly hardware ! Some of you android fanbois in here make me physically sick... Congratulations for making Sup Forums a shittier place ...

>this is what brainlet iToddlers actually believe

>I don't think the phone is worth the 600€ tag price it has now

to clarify, I don't think any phone is worth >600-700€ price anyways. I'm quite conservative when it comes to spend that amount of money in something that can go from brand new to broken/stolen in a second.

Thank you my Spanish bro! You have really helped me (OP here)

Will try it in a store

sour grapes

You're very welcome, man!

No one who isn't a nation state can compete with NSA. All mobile devices are unwraps by design and I'm not even talking about their base band and fuckery.

Still much better than the low level mr robot types who have acces to your device ring 0 and your apps countless zero days.

Software updates for maybe a year more is probably the biggest advantage for the iPhone 8.

Aside from Apple selling refurb 5Ses in poor countries, they never drop prices, so for a pure value comparison it'd be worth getting the 8.

Sweden is 50/50 android/iOS, shut the fuck up. You think you know shit, you don't.

>""""""""""updates""""""""""""""""""""""
>advantage for iphone

Pick one. lagOS updates are a fucking joke. They're literally malware.

Swedes have very high immigration. Naturally, the immigrants coming from the places where Android dominates (Middle East, Africa, Pakistan....) bring their technology with them. Most ethnic Swedes prefer Apple.

>iphone users are cucks

Big surprise.

Funny, because I always see them with oldass used iphone 4/5s, because they think it makes them look less poor.

iTODDLERS BTFO

Future historians will look back at this age in the same way how we consider the neolithic in terms of corded ware culture and beaker culture.

> autism the .webm
> what a joke my i7 can do the same if i fuck with it enough

you fuckers have a shitty disconnect from reality

in a first world county like Australia everyone owns an iphone, most have two of three, some bough one, the rest were hand me downs... its just what we use and its a way of life

the amount of salty poor cunts in this thread is unbelievable

t. iphone xeon slackware user

"Android fans" on Sup Forums are literally Indians posting for Mumbay. It's not even a meme at this point.

>no mention of samsung phones

The A series was made for OP.

t. someone who doesn't work with software

I'm a white Australian and I love the shit out of my S7. IPhones are restricted access pieces of shit. I hardly ever see anyone with them. Images like seem completely made up to me. If you are getting a phone just because cool people are getting it, you're a fucking idiot, besides. I'd get an Android even if I was a billionaire. I just like the flexibility of the OS infinitely more.

why not a samsung device you hipster wannabe? because it's too mainstream?

Android users are hilariously insecure. Here are some facts:

>iPhones have better security
>Better build quality
>Unrivaled customer support
>Objectively more true to life cameras
>Better standby time
>And indisputably better support over time
The iPhone 5s from 2013 is running the latest OS with full support. Can you say the same for ANY android where you have to beg for updates? It's fucking pathetic.

Apple actually released the ios 9 with the specific purpose of speeding up older generations of phones and optimizing the software for these phones. If you are using Iphone 5 or older, you should be using ios 9, and your phone will work great. The Iphone 3 is probably too outdated hardware wise though.

I am running a jailbroken iphone 5 with ios 9 and it works great for being 5 years old. Iphone 5 had the best design of all phones in history as well. I am probably going to upgrade to whatever iphone comes out in 2018 though, mostly because I miss the feeling and rush of getting a new phone.

Iphones can be actually good with jailbreak

The image perfectly captures the relationship between android users and apple users. Apple users just see a phone they like and buy it. Android users however actively try to distance themselves from apple users, and buys their phones out of spite. Then they lie to themselves about how much better they like the android and spend countless hours on the internet talking shit about apple users among themselves while deep inside being bitter about the phones they use. Android users buy their phones because they are either poor, or because having an android phone is a part of their identity as whole.

Apple users buy their phones because they like the phone.