>year-month-day
Adheres to logic and science, hierarchical approach makes it easy to understand, no problems when sorting.
>month-day-year
>day-month-year
Adheres to tribalism and primitivism, ass-backwards hierarchy is absolutely unnatural for a man, huge ass pain when trying to sort.
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>year month day
use this for sorting files
>day month year
use this when you actually want to see what day it is
what if you want items from a specific day
imo day month year and year month day are pretty much the same. only mindfuck is the american format especially what its unspecified
You have a problem noticing patterns?
>what if you want items from a specific day
"day-month-year" won't help you in this in any way. You'll have to extract a substring anyways.
no, i just think day month year is prettier. its like how sorting your contacts in your phone by last name is much easier, but is also a pain to read.
you see my brain and my computer are both perfectly capable of sorting files by the last date field first (etc) so i can use dmy if i so please
even if you're working with it as raw text instead of a proper data structure you can get the year by grabbing the last five(?) bytes of the string
No.
Small-Medium-Big is the logical conclusion.
Amerimutts and antmen should just accept their fate as datesystemlets.
so then we should use SS:MM:HH accordin to you?'
your logic sucks faggot
Your Reddit spacing is showing faggot.
Seriously
Stop
Double
Spacing
Your
Lines
Also, DD:MM:YYYY is the accepted standard so stop whining weeaboo
>ad hominem
He's not going for the points, bro, he's going for the argument, and he's winning.
To be honest the only one that bothers me is the american style, seriously who the fuck came up with that? It can also get easily confused with the european one if the day is 12 or less.
YYYYMMDD is the only reasonable way to write dates... if you're a programmer.
It's called ISO 8601. Learn it. Love it. Live it.
I don't get it.
USA:
Month 1-12
Day 1-31
Year 1- 2000+
Each one is larger than the last.
If anything, the European one is wrong.
All of these systems have their own logic and all of them are good.
The only problem is that the required format usually isn't specified
Given no other context, it's quicker to infer information from a month than day. If I say the 15th that means nothing, if I say August we have something to work with. It's also two syllables quicker to speak in the burger way
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>what is ISO 8601? I never heard of it in my life because I'm a retard.
YMD>MDY>DMY
Months come before days, deal with it.
dumb
>japanese logic
you do realize that the format existed in the ex-soviet countries right?
dumb tripfag
nice technology thread amigo
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YYYY-MM-DD hh:mm:ss is the only logical date and time format. cut from the beginning or the end, depending on what doesn't need to be specified.
Which August though? The year is all the way at the end. Do you just assume last August? Might as well assume last 15th then.
>ISO 8601
>Japanese
fucking weebs
kys
>disagreeing with the Sup Forums hivemind
18th of November 2017
November 18th 2017
America wasn't taken over by commie scientists to enforce some "logical" standard. We write it like we say it
Brits say it as they write it. Nth of Month Year
>2017
>not using weekdates
this is american """"logic"""""
Metric > Imperial
This is a fact you cannot refute. Be wrong if you must.
>get his argument completely shattered
>WAAAAAAH REDDIT SPACING
oh man the state of 4dong.
Even reddit is a better place now.
>needing to "learn" a date format
>"loving" a date format
>revolving your "life" around a date format
>YYYY-MM-DD
Good for storage, sorting works well
>DD-MM-YYYY
Good for human-to-human chat.
If you say DD, you're implicitly talking about the current month of the current year.
If you say DD-MM, you're implicitly talking about the current year but not this month.
fixed
apples and oranges
its called a line break you aids riddled faggotron cuck
These
are
line
breaks,
you
moron.
I assume we do it that way in America because it reflects how we say it, e.g., "November eighteenth, two-thousand seventeen."
Not sure how it's said in Japan, but Europeans in general say it in the same order as the numerical version, I believe.
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"yyyy/MM/dd HH:mm:ss" is the only non retarded date format.
>proper use of punctuation and line breaks to improve readability is now a reddit thing
yeah why don't we just post anything like illiteral morons would do that will surely make everyones posts more readable. fuck you.
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And that "reddit spacing" is what you call paragraphs.
They have been in use for the written English language for over 200 years.
Paragraphs are for longer texts, not one that consists of two short sentences.
Also, proper paragraphs use a single line break and indent.
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what did you call me your lil shit?
I'll have you know i graduated top of my class in gorilla shitposting.
this is a new point im gonna argue so im preceding it by 2 linebreaks,
your phoneposting is showing btw
in many situations when working with date sorted things, they are already collated by month (and some other by year), thats an extra reason why month first is so retarded, and while year first isnt retarded, day first makes sense.
also humans tend to know the current month even when they arent sure of the day.
for a smimilar reason, humans tend to organize time mentally by hours of the day, for a few things minutes matter, and for fewer yet seconds do, so bigger > smaller makes sense there in all situations.
only in filename i use YYYY-MM-DD so i can do things like
>purpose/category-name-YYYY-MM-DD.ext
filesystem date sorting wont help there, files of different cat-name will get mixed, and alphabetical will naturally group cat-name while sorting by date in numbers
European version makes most sense. You're giving most relevant information first, especially in case you're referring to the current or next month when you can just say "18th" or "18th next month". People tend to know what month and year it is currently so those are in many cases redundant.
Starting with the year makes no sense unless you're drunk at a new years party. Or, if you're filtering through or sorting files/events in which case YYYY.MM.DD. is perfect.
So, Japanese for communicating with a computer/paperwork, European for communicating with people.
This.
>tfw the ecosystem around your programming language of choice defaults to year-month-day
It's nice.
>most correct (no corrections needed)
ISO YYYY MM DD HH MM SS MS
>incorrect (one correction needed)
USA MM DD YYYY HH MM SS MS
>most incorrect (two corrections needed)
EUROPEON DD MM YYYY HH MM SS MS
If the American way isn't your preference, that's fine.
If you "don't understand" why its used, you're a fucking moron. Month is more important than day in the majority of use cases. When I start working on items from the current year, I want to pull "october" I don't want to pull "every 15th this year". Jesus christ you fucking autismos can't understand how a normal human brain catalogs shit.
ISO8601 doesn't use spaces or slash though. Specifically: hyphen between date parts, T between date and time, and colon between time parts. Full date should be a single lexical unit.
This.
But by extension of your logic, if you want to work from items of the current decade, you want to pull "year" and not "every october of this decade".
It's called consistency faggot. The human brain doesn't like ad-hoc rules.
Yes, but again we're talking about common use cases. The number of times you're pulling specific months vs decades is going to vary based on your work, and I'm willing to bet more people are working on monthly reports more often than aggregate stuff by decade.
>Day month year
>Day of the month is largely irellevant information unless pertaining to a specific deadline, holiday, or event.
>Month day year
>Month gives you the season, the weather, puts in head all of the events and going ons of this section of the year, gives relevant farming info, you're not counting every day meticulously when you write dates and thus are less stressed by long grinds.
>japan
>Some weird shit about the historical era with a accepted anme because they treat real life likes its fucking middle earth.
We do it that way because saying it’s November 18th, 2017 is like saying it’s 10:51, Saturday
Knowing the month is more important than knowing the specific day or year
Knowing the specific day is more important than knowing the year
The only people who get worked up over this are autists who need everything to follow some kind of pattern
MM/DD/YYYY because most things are already pre-sorted based on year so it's really: (YYYY) MM/DD/YYYY. The extra YYYY is for error checking in case it was misfiled but since it's only ECC it's shoved into the end.
This is exactly correct. In casual conversation, people are generally going to refer to specific days relative to other things -- "the Saturday before Christmas", "The last Friday in September", etc. These are much more informative for people who actually do things with friends and family, and make it easier to organize their life on the fly.
Now, there are exceptions, such as when you're making a professional appointment, filling out a legal document, etc, where the accuracy and uniformity of the date is more important than the ease of use and consumption. In this case month-day-year isn't the best -- but if those are your priorities year-month-day is clearly superior to day-month-year, since they are equally as autistic but year-month-day is more easily sorted by computers.
Both month-day-year and year-month-day have their place, one is for consumption by people and one is for consumption by computers, essentially. Day-month-year is only suitable for consumption by autists.
This is the only correct answer.
That argument is retarded.
>When I start working on items from the current year, I want to pull "October" not "every 15th of this year"
Okay, look for 2017 then look for 10 ... 2017-10-xx is every day for everything in October for $CurrentYear ... GG?
>B-but if I had month first I could--
No, if it was MM-DD-YYYY You'd find October for every year, intermixed with each day. Which would be FUCKING AUTISTIC.
Why would you look through 10-15-2015, 10-15-2016, 10-15-2017?
For those who argue about speech... There's two ways I hear dates being given in speech:
25th of December, 2017 -- and 2017, December 25th. In other words, you could feasibly say "On December 25th." and people will understand things.
American logic is the correct one.
Month 12/12
Day 29-31/31
Year 2017/infinite
12 < 31 < infinite.
Your argument is invalid.
im hungarian and we use the one on the right
Thanks for the info, Captain Obvious McRetard.
>american anything
>good
this, always this. third-worlders are always just asshurt at our greatness.
>If I say the 15th that means nothing
No, it can mean the 15th of the current month, or of the month just referenced, you smelly anaphoralet.
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Epic forced meme my friend i lold
>unnatural for a man
because it was invented by dolphins
date formats didn't exist until computers were invented, and CS is the only area where they are used
Fathom, furlong, et al. are more antiquated than american. I've never heard them used unironically in america (although I don't live there so I may be wrong).
I'd absolutely not denying that imperial units are a clusterfuck, but modern day america only uses a small subset of your graph.
>ssssssssssmmmm
>Months go up to 12
>Days go up to 31
>Years go up to your weight
It seems Americans got it right by your logic.
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Not this shit again.
Didn't this thread get removed last night.