If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs i5 8600k if your CHAD >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
GPUs: >Consider Vega if you have a Freesync monitor >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
I'm a new buyer here, during Black Friday/CyberMonday week when do some of you think is best to buy? Some places are jumping early and it looks like there's nice deals, but should I wait a few more days?
Cameron Perry
whats the cheapest nvidia card i get get to play games like tf2, kf2, EYE, at 1080p 40+fps?
80+ alone is sweat but workable 80+ bronze is gucchi 80+ gold/plat/diamond is better, yes, but it's not "double the price" better
use case?I would not buy anything new that's worse than a 1050ti
look at second hand shit
Elijah Martin
thank all of you for the input
does more efficient also mean more silent? that's what I care about the most if I gotta be honest
Adrian Martinez
thanks i was wondering if i could get away with anything worse than the 1050ti but i guess its worth it
Nicholas Barnes
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($176.98 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($187.99 @ Amazon) Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H) Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB AMP! Extreme Video Card ($449.99 @ Amazon) Case: NZXT - Phantom 820 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz) Power Supply: Corsair - HX Platinum 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($192.54 @ Amazon) Total: $1730.45
What do you guys think of my custom build?
Kevin Perez
you could, but I really wouldn't recommend buying it new you could pick up some shit second hand card for like 30-50$ and get those FPS and then you won't spend too much money buying a dead card
PCPP link what will it be used for
Tyler Green
get seasonic X or whichever comes with semipassive fan function, very likely that corsair you linked does in that price range
remember that you are here talking often to poorfags who got $100 thinkpads and are fine with $30 psu even if its loud...
Aaron Clark
wtf is this autism
Sebastian Hall
Would all those fans on the case be enough to cooldown the 1800x if i overclock it pic related, if you are interested
Cameron Gutierrez
How good is the 580 4GB for 1080p gaming? Never bought Radeon before, but for $179.99 that seems like an insane deal.
Jaxon Mitchell
is it a reputable brand? is it a dual fan?
580 4gb should be good for like 3-4 years 1060 6gb and 580 8gb should be good for like 5-6
Luke Lewis
I'm new at this, just trying to see what's good and what's not
Xavier Reyes
Holy shit that's a deal. I use an rx580 4gb for 1080p and have no problems running anything. Witcher 3 runs at a solid 80fps on mine at high-ultra with my cousin overclocked if that give you any idea
Samuel Mitchell
by use case I meant, what's the use case for the pc aka what is its purpose aka what will you do with it
Adrian Harris
>with my cousin overclocked
>overclocking your family members jesus christ user it's time to stop
Nothing special, just want a case with good airflow, i was considering that one cause of the deal.
Brayden King
run away and don't stop running
Daniel Bell
אתה הולך לקנות Nvidia ואתה הולך לאהוב את זה.
But seriously, no.
Colton Howard
I meant for the computer user please, you're busting my dick here lmao you just want to play V I D E O G A M E S?
Samuel Rivera
Why? That price coupled with a two-year warranty seems alright.
Liam White
Aight, with black Friday comming up I'm looking to upgrade, but I'm not sure what part I should upgrade to get the best bang for my buck. I'm fine with 1080p gaming, and my CPU is stable at 3.9ghz. Thinking about gpu upgrade to a 1070 but people say it's nothing worth if I'm sticking to 1080p. Here's the part list: pcpartpicker.com/list/9H9MRG
Matthew Hughes
>send it back >X is not covered by warranty >have to pay for shipping to return your broken card to you or let them keep it
If you want to take the risk, be my guest, but remember you're gambling
Christian Reed
Oh my b, gonna use it for vidya, Video editing, some programming and 3D modeling. Also want it to last a good amount of years before having to upgrade.
I feel retarded now
Brody Williams
Like I said, I'm new at this
Hunter Davis
I'm thinking of building a Ryzen 1700 machine (16GB RAM, x370 Mobo, 525GB SSD, 5TB HDD, GTX 1080) primarily for 1440p games/emulation, and amateur multimedia production (music/animation/video). My target budget is roughly $1600 (not including price of a new monitor). Reckon there will be any significant Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales that will reduce the cost of my build by at least a couple hundred dollars?
pcpartpicker.com/list/Z6P8BP (posted this build a few months ago, before Coffee Lake released. Dunno if I should just go Intel instead.)
Jose Ward
Think I'll gamble. It's a great deal, and if push comes to shove I can push.
Levi Long
>1500x ??? 1200, 1600 or 1700 if ryzen 8350k or 8600k if coffee avoid gaming pro mobo did the ripjaws ram sale end? they had 16 gigs 3200 for 159 at newegg just get a caviar blue HDD, that one has shit ratings. Not worth the risk just get a second hand 1080p 60hz monitor for like 20$. Buying a new one is a huge waste of money
like I said, post pcpp link and give the use case for the pc
Christopher Davis
most of the older emulation relies heavily on single core performance, which ryzen lacks on. However I've heard the newer emulation like switch does well with 8 cores I'd personally go with a 8600k or 8700k build >70-80$ more than a 1070ti not worth it that PSU is overpriced as fuck
oh also I've heard bluray support on PC is shit so you might want to just get a cd/dvd writer/reader and save like 30$ on that
Justin Morgan
ASUS
Grayson Baker
Yuropoor here, I need your help. Took me 3 days to build this frankenstein, as Im something below beginner level: pcpartpicker.com/list/fgX6Yr
I also plan to put ""Zalman 500-GVM modular PSU, 500W, ATX12V V2.3, active PFC, 80 Plus Bronze" in there, I want to know is it strong/efficient enough to keep the power supply constant. I intend to play games released before 2015/16. Cheers
Charles Russell
>avoid gaming pro mobo I've got the asus strix one, is this bad or what? t. other
Carson Allen
might as well in a 1900 pc to be honest
compare all the different europe options in pcpartpicker when deciding what and where to buy though at that pricepoint, consider looking for a second hand or refurbished tower and just adding in a 1050ti
it's not the gaming pro, so no
James Ortiz
I have all these parts already, the HDD is the blue edition, I just haven't changed the part. Might bump up to a 1600x for high overclocks
>adds 2 fans with red leds >no gpu >tfw when temps at 100% load still 38C >4 fans is too loud
Dominic Hughes
You need a stronger PSU for that system mate.
And a $500 CPU with stock cooler? Nigga that shit is overkill for whatever you are intending to do and yes you would/should get a aftermarket cooler if you intend to overclock.
Ethan Edwards
What aftermarket cooler would you recommend. >You need a stronger PSU for that system mate. How much stronger are we talking about here.
Joshua Miller
I'm entirely new to this. I've got $1000-$1100 for a budget. Could anyone point me in a useful direction?
Connor Lee
so that's your current pc? why would you want to upgrade, shit's fine
>2 sticks of 8 gig ram >random separate different stick at different speed ???????????
Jacob Lopez
yeah here you go
Camden Mitchell
I was mainly getting Ryzen for modern emulation like PS3, that can take advantage of multithreaded Same reason I chose the BD drive. I have tons of PS3 discs to rip. (I have a hacked PS3, but it's currently YLOD)
Carson Russell
Is the 1600x worth getting over the 1600?
Jaxon Jones
Yeah I fucked that one up
Asher Thompson
What do you want to do with it?
Tyler Miller
Asus TN should never be considered and dont let the buyer remorse fags "durr I barely notice the difference" tell you any different . IPS is always the way to go
Jeremiah King
What sort of clock speeds do you think Zen+ will reach? Maybe 4.3GHz?
Kevin Cox
Play modern games, fool around with 3d artwork and Unreal engine, and basic internet stuff. For perspective, my current computer is about a decade old and has so little memory, I can't even install a version of windows newer than vista.
Jaxon White
I should add, I dropped by at the beginning of the summer when I had plans to buy a computer, but life happened. I was pointed to ibuypower and Ryzen 5, I think.
Nicholas Sullivan
8600k still goes basically toe to toe with 1600 in multithread while stomping it in single and quad. 8700k goes toe to toe with 1700x in multi and stomps it in single and quad.
though both the 8600k and 8700k are more expensive with more expensive motherboards
apparently PS3 games used 6 CPU cores. So the 1600/8600k should be fine
Logan Bell
K chips to emulate is overkill and should be avoided unless your work depends on it , the 3 to 5 frame difference is not worth the extra 40 to 60 dollars imo
Get a i5 or i7 (i7 8700 is the best cpu on the market right now but runs hot like a mother fucked even the normal non k chips, I speak from exprience)
Ryzen 7 1700 can handle emulation just fine tho since their single core performance is almost on par with a 4th gen intel which sounds terrible but really is not
Jace Torres
are you absolutely sure you're getting an aftermarket cooler either way
if so, maybe if not, no
William Bell
8700k is 10-15% better than 8700
you're going to have to DELID THIS all of them anyway
Juan Edwards
Not really since x has no stock cooler you're going to have to buy a aftermarket , although it can be overclocked better all ryzen chips can be overclocked and 1600 can be overclocked near x's level and will only be a single frame lower in gaming in a majority of cases
Production is a entirely different story
James Martin
Building my first PC. Are Nvidia cards better than AMD for 1080p gaming? This is really the only decision I'm stuck on.
Asher Scott
Hey guys im planning out my next build and I had a couple questions. What pairs best with a gtx1080? I was thinking of a i5-8400, or maybe the 8600k if the price difference is worth it. One more question: what is a good low profile cooler for the CPU's? I really wanna do an ITX build this time and im not sure if a hyper 212 will fit in this case newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD6F6A11351
Christopher Diaz
Right now nvidia is better. Vega has what and calls (((fine wine))) which basicly means that they made shit drivers at launch and will work on making them better in the future. You'll be lucky to find a Vega gpu at msrp but if you can the 56 is a small bit better than the 1070 and the 64 is about equal to the 1080. The difference is powerdraw. The Vega gpus take much more power than the gtx gpus. So you would need to account for that when building.
Asher Jackson
Will an i5-4440 have any issues running with a RX 580 4GB? Probably not, but I want to be sure.
Mason Butler
The other thing I'm concerned about is that Intel frequently changes sockets, whereas AMD pledged Ryzen will use the same socket for at least 4 years. If I upgrade a few years down, then I won't have to worry about getting a whole new mobo
Chase Cox
His main reason to build a pc is to game with light work
Would you spend $400+ for a cpu , 110+ for a mobo , 140+ for ram , $60+ for a aftermarket cooler all for essentially massive overkill for a gaming-light workstation build
Or 175 (200 typically) cpu , $80+ mobo, $140+ , no need for aftermarket cooler
Keep in mind in the long run you can upgrade the cpu easily on ryzen without spending a single cent on a new mobo .
Yes the i7 is a best cpu out right now but we are trying to help the user out not bankrupt him and gaming performance reaches 60fps-100fps on ryzen which matters the most to gamers , more frames is great and i7 provides a lot more frames but if you don't have the proper monitor it means jack
Cameron Ward
Alright, thank you. I think a 1060 6GB will fit my needs best.
Levi Howard
Nvidia cards last longer in terms of optimization
AMD cards are showing promise on being back to the good old budget card but they fucked up this gen so wait next year if you're looking to save money
Currently best 1080p cards are the 1070 and 1080 , best 1440p card is also the 1070 and 1080 , for $50 you can get a 1070ti which is better than a 1070 but lesser than a 1080 . It isn't worth the money I would save up to get a 1080 which is only $100 dollars more than a 1070 in most cases
Jaxson Gonzalez
>His main reason to build a pc is to game with light work 8600k + mobo is like 120 more than a 1600 build
I just brought up the 8700k because there is no 8600 and he's better off with a 8600k than a 8700 non-k
Brayden Ross
Well I'm upgrading my i7 2600k to i7 8700k how will my fps jump in csgo for example?
Wyatt Rivera
still looking for help if a kind user wouldn't mind
Charles Cook
What PSUs are you using with your Vega 64s, currently have a Thermaltake TR2 S 600W but i dont think thats going to be enough, i'd rather not buy some chink shit psu
Nicholas Perry
A i5 k and mobo(z370 a pro the cheapest I can find ) is a total of 419.99 and that is not including a aftermarket cooler which you have to buy since k chips don't have a stock cooler and non k chips still heat up albeit not as terrible as k chips.
The ryzen 5 1600 with the cheapest mobo a pc mate b350 is 259.99 and that is with the stock cooler included which is literally as good if not better than many $30+ aftermarket coolers
We all know the msrp will not come back for the next 3 months tops for the intel chips so for now the ryzen build is league's ahead a better value for a gaming light workstation build
Noah Powell
Alright just need to upgrade my CPU, but my Mobo is highly outdated so I'm looking at getting more RAM and a Mobo anyway.
I just picked the cheapest 16GB set, and I'm torn between the ASRock AB350 and the X370. I save $40 on the cheaper option, but I'm not sure if that $40 will show in the upgrade, is it worth getting?
Xavier Murphy
Does my desire to buy blower vega instead of custom 1080 make me an amd fanboy?
Ian Fisher
A bit.
Ian Morgan
If it is only a ryzen 5 then a b mobo is fine and personally a msi or asus mobo would be preferable since they have better customer support from my experience than asrock but that is just my opinion
Robert Baker
Is there a secret code word I can give to Dell rep to get a refund on the price difference of a monitor I bought?
I bought the S2716DG on their site like four days ago for $400 and now that shit is on sale at Best Buy for $350...
I messaged them up and they were like "sorry, our price guarantee excludes the week before and after Thanksgiving"...
Anyway around that or do I just have to buy the one at Best Buy and then return the one from Dell?
Alexander Edwards
The 1060 is a great card I used it for about a year before upgrading my pc to a ryzen/Vega build. It ran everything I needed it to very well. It should last you for a long time.
Jaxson Cruz
pcpartpicker.com/list/9vb6tJ So this is my current build. Already done, purchased, built, working. Any sub $100 recommendations for black friday with some sources?
Daniel Flores
You sound like a jew
Isaiah Barnes
Tell them you'll give them a high grade on the survey, majority of reps. eat that up
Gabriel Anderson
>getting cheapest b350 board enjoy your pc dying
I get to 415 including cooler for the 8600k
there's literally nothing you can buy that's an upgrade below like 300$
>enjoy your pc dying Bro this ain't 2008 where it actually mattered if you got a high end mobo and PC mates have been reliable mobos for generations
Owen Davis
that case prob only has one fan so buy another case fan
>PC mates have been reliable mobos for generations Didn't Work On My Machine™
some good headphones or speakers :^)
Andrew Brown
Sorry had dinner.
I'd go with a 750W PSU, at the least. You have some really power hungry stuff in that build, and although a 650W caaaan power it, it is not ideal for efficiency and life expectancy of the PSU. Efficiency of a PSU is usually the best at the middle of its load (~50%).
For the cooler, I don't really have any recommendation for the AM4 platform. A decently beefy looking one is typically enough for you average home overclocking. Go AIO if you intend to really push things.
Liam Jenkins
I'd get a better case but outside that it's fine
Alexander Howard
anyone know of some black friday deals on cases that can fit a full size atx board under $40?
Honestly for sub 100 nothing but headphones Sub 500 I would say get a nixeus EDG 27S since you'll be getting 60-90 fps on most triple A games on 1440p and 100-120+ fps on esport games like csgo and overwatch
Lucas Barnes
I've been trying to cheap out on the case since those will be $10 at newegg black friday, but I might get one of these since they will be $20
