If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
GPUs: >Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
Should I get a 1600X now or should I wait for the Zen refresh? It's 209 Euro right now.
Elijah Sanders
2400MHz CL15 or 3000MHz CL16 for Covfefe Lake?
Ethan Gray
Cross postan
Gabriel Lewis
1600 if you wait, you can keep waiting, because there's always something on the horizon to wait for
whichever if cheaper, if about the same price, 3000
Luke Ortiz
The 2400 has both less bandwidth and higher latency, so I don't see why you'd even consider it unless it's significantly cheaper.
James Morales
You're probably right. I choose the 1600X because it's just 11 Euros above the 1600 right now. I would have gotten a new Heatsink either way. Thanks.
Levi Torres
>tfw just sold my 7700K had it sealed in the box since June. I feel like a weight has been lifted. However, I still have some DDR4 I bought for it in the box too. Should I wait till mid 2018 to buy anything?
Thomas Gomez
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Levi Miller
>higher latency I thought CL15 is lower latency than CL16
Can anyone help me with my build? Its my first time trying to make a PC. Would appreciate any help regarding parts that should be changed out and for what
Gabriel Barnes
Looks pretty good, I might get the 1600X for now then upgrade to a Zen 2 eight core on 7nm.
No one can say without more info dumdum but if you have to ask probably not
Good but you should get slightly faster RAM
Depends on what you have now. If you have an i5 or above I'd say wait until you can't do something particular that you want to do
How much did you buy/sell for?
Jacob Jackson
Is powercooler a good brand?
Ian Cook
It is, when both sticks run at the same frequency. But Cas latency isn't measured in concrete time units, it's measured in cycles. And 15/2400 is more than 16/3000.
Hunter Smith
Is it too late in the game to consider a brand new RX580 8GB? I'm looking at pic related. I game at 1440p 60FPS. It'd be paired with an R7-1700X.
I honestly have a gtx-980ti currently. But I'd like to get a 4K free-sync monitor and will game at 1080p. I want out of the Nvidia world. I want to make use of free-sync.
what do you guys think? this is also my first time building a pc, and im on a tight budget
Jace Gonzalez
Other user, but I feel retarded now.. I based my RAM decisions on whether it had low CAS before high frequency (C14 2400 instead of C16 3200), luckily I decided to wait™ a little and haven't bought it yet. Thanks for the save user.
Hudson Kelly
Vega 56 is a closer approximation to the power level of the 980Ti 4K Freesync isn't good yet. There are no high refresh rate 4K monitors Vega 56 is a little weak for 4K, and the RX 580 is way weak for 4K
Sales are getting posted already, so just check for what you want
>order 16gb ram >get sent correct ram but packing slip for different ram >other dude puts in claim for his missing ram >somehow that puts in a claim for me >getting sent another 16gb of my ram tomorrow neat
Nathan Robinson
Notice that the OP doesn't say anything about CAS latency and only mentions speed. I mean, god knows what could be in the OP (everything posted here is a work of fiction etc), but right now it's good.
Joshua Williams
>Sales are getting posted already pcpartpicker.com/list/JYXXxY I want to satisfy my jewishness to not feel too bad on spending 2 big ones on something I don't really need
Jack Williams
Fucking nice
Kayden Foster
>Vega 56
Vega 56 current cards suck. If I were going to buy Vega, I would buy a Vega 64 custom model. Like the sapphire 3x8pin version. And I know 4K is shit for gaming. I'm talking of using the monitor as 4K for normal browsing and tasks, but playing games in 1080p to take advantage of better performance and free-sync.
My buddy has a 28" free-sync capable 3840x2160p monitor that looks fine even when gaming at 1080p.
Samuel Howard
I'd turn around and sell it immediately, or even hold it for a bit in the hopes that RAM prices will keep climbing
1080p monitor in the OP is better for less If you can't handle curved just look for a 144Hz 1ms VA panel for about $250
Samuel Butler
I still don't know why you'd downgrade from a 980Ti to a 580 just for some shitty 60Hz Freesync that probably won't even be active half the time unless you frame limit and adjust settings ever so carefully
Like I said, 4K monitors suck for gaming right now, not just because of the high GPU power required to run them but also the monitors themselves suck
Julian Phillips
>1080p monitor in the OP is better for less but is it goy-sync enabled though
Jayden Evans
Honestly I don't think G-sync is worth it right at this moment.. No VA panels and no HDR10 If you really want G sync get 165Hz IPS
Daniel Ward
Oh ok. Fuck. I didn't want to pay the G-sync tax, but looks like I may have to. I was just looking at monitors. I can get my hands on a 27" 144HZ 2560x1440p monitor with G-SYNC for $450. Asus model. Worth it?
Landon Jones
redbull me on goysync and why shouldn't I get it. Keep in mind I want to embrace the 144hz meme
Colton Clark
Seems like you've been bitten by the green bug of envy, friend.
No for the reasons I posted here . That 144Hz panel is TN. Not the worst but like I said I'd get 165Hz IPS for color and viewing angle reasons.
Carson Howard
What's a good 2*4GB RAM for ASRock AB350M Pro4 with R5 1600? QVL lists only ridiculoulsy expensive sets of RAM.
Thomas Ortiz
Well I'm on a non Freesync non G-sync 60hz monitor. If I get a new monitor, I want it to have all the bells and whistles.
So now it's what? Play the waiting game? The 165hz monitors a crazy money.
Tyler Brown
Gsync is nice but if it's on a monitor without HDR10.. was the extra cost really worth it? I think not. You could wait a couple of months and get a Gsync monitor with the biggest color enhancement in a while (HDR10), which is particularly noticeable in games
Kayden Hernandez
outdated info just get any
Xavier Watson
What would be the most quiet case of these: Define R5 window or no window Corsair 270R NZXT S340
Camden Gutierrez
define r5 no window
Samuel Ward
aware me on a good monitor without goysync that is 144hz. Going to pull the trigger on this one if I can keep it below $2000.
Connor Allen
You can pretty much use any RAM you want with Ryzen after the latest BIOS updates. 3200 CL14 is great
I would wait for these reasons , and HDR10 is definitely a big bell. Your current monitor is fine, not like it's got bunch of dead pixels or something.
What are some of the best Black Friday deals people have found so far?
I'm digging the 1600 + MSI Mobo combo from Frys but I know it'll be sold out before I can refresh the page
Levi Myers
anything not curved?
Caleb Watson
welp, I added this pcpartpicker.com/list/h9Tbqk and took away the speakers because I'd probably use headphones anyways when I want to really listen to something because the apartment manager literally lives next to me.
Eli Davis
>tfw can't upgrade the the cpu, board, or ram without upgrading all of them together.
>tfw my video card is still kickin ass
Yet I want to upgrade.
Ian Ramirez
what color should i get Sup Forums?
Hunter Howard
Put an i7 in there and get an SSD if you don't have one
Still a TN monitor.. Look for a VA panel
Josiah Jackson
Black and gray or Gray
Jordan Roberts
On second look the Black and Gray is the only acceptable one
Oliver Moore
I'm new to building and I'm trying to figure out if I will I be able to fit the following into a Meshify C? >front 240mm rad & fans (AIO) + 1x 120mm fan intake >back 120mm rad & fans (AIO) exhaust >top 2x 140mm fans exhaust Top fans are obviously fine but some of the clearance info is really unhelpful for example at the front >"40mm with fan installed" how thick is the fan? does that mean 40mm of rad space? My GPU is ~285mm and the GPU clearance with fan installed is 315, so that would mean I have 60mm of clearance at the front?
Jack Nelson
i think yourre right user, thnx have a cute grill
Henry Phillips
I have 3 tbqh. I am sitting in a full tower because I expected XFire/SLI to become more popular but it's only gotten worse so the plan is to wait for the i5 to need upgrading so I can go ahead with DDR4 ram and a new board and probably get a different case.
I was contemplating going water cooling this time but I really don't know if it's worth the price and hassle because I'd want to water cool everything, not just the CPU but do a full circuit.
Gabriel Harris
I just now realized the curved monitor you posted is a VA. My build is now below $1800 and has satisfied my autism. Still can't help but feel prices could drop the closer we get to Friday. I mean these prices are similar to where they were a few weeks ago
Blake Wright
scratch that, lots of reviews of the CPU AIO leaking after ~6months
>or even hold it for a bit in the hopes that RAM prices will keep climbing I have a gut feeling that ram prices have to be reaching a breaking point soon where current prices are unsustainable with consumer needs and start coming back down I'm also bad at gambling, so who knows
Jonathan Russell
Anyone ever bought a chink CPU heatsink? There's some brands on AliExpress (Alseye and VTG) that seems good. Should I try my luck with a AIO or air? I'm not from the US so a Corsair 120 mm AIO is above $110 so I'm going chink. Even a Hyper 212 costs over $50.
Chase White
*forgot pic
Gavin Perry
Don't cheap out on an AIO unless you want to give your computer a shower
Henry Myers
What are the chances of Pic Related going on sale on Black Friday, Cyber Monday?
Carter Sanders
Well they look like cooler master/nzxt knockoffs. Maybe they came out of the same factory and were just rebadged/rehoused by some chink companies? If so they might be of comparable quality internally. Hard to tell from pictures alone though. It's a gamble, and when it comes to liquid cooling I wouldn't even consider it.
Owen Powell
I'm upgrading from a 2tb HDD to a 2tb SSD. I want to use the HDD for storage. What's the best way to go about getting win10 on the SSD and wiping the HDD for storage?
Bentley Lopez
Seriously? Not that user, but I have a set of 2x8GB sticks rated for 3200Mhz and I can only get them (consistently) to 2800 after the latest bios update for my mb. Did I get duds?
Aiden Cook
Migrate the OS
What RAM and mobo do you have exactly?
Austin Sanders
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Jaxson Ward
MB: MSI B350M Bazooka RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V (F4-3200C16D-16GVGB)
Cameron Collins
>AMD is power efficient, has good thermals out of the box on stock cooler (and pretty silent operation too without hardcore overclocking) and good headroom >Intel is power hungry, runs really hot out of the box, requires a circumcision (delid) to not catch fire and requires beefy aftermarket coolers
>nobody mentions power efficiency EVER, if you want power you pay for it, goy!
>AMD is hotter, louder and more power hungry than Nvidia but delivers similar performance at a very competitive price point and the prospect of improved performance as drivers mature >Nvidia runs cool and efficiently, using much less energy even under heavy loads
>Fucking AYYMD releasing power hungry chips again! Nvidia is so far ahead of Ayymd! Never buy an AYYMD housefire!
Really makes one ponder.
Isaac Perry
so why would anyone buy the ripjaws when the trident series is cheaper and faster?
Jose Smith
>Migrate the OS How, google fails me
Logan Sanders
Those were the cheapest sticks I found back when I bought them. Around 110 burgers, I believe.
Mason James
pcpartpicker.com/list/Dvh4zM It's my first time building, how good is this? currency is dollars also have some other questions: How much do the the extra cores and threads on ryzen over kabylake matter? >I'm deciding between this msi motherboard and the ASRock AB350M Pro4, what is LLC?
Also I've already bought and hd, ssd, psu, and case last year
Austin Howard
Is an rx 580 8gb for $260 a good deal? It's a 24h deal on newegg and I don't want to miss it if its good.
Caleb Reed
I heard that MSI has been lacking in RAM support, but that's just a rumor
>Intel is power hungry, runs really hot out of the box, requires a circumcision (delid) to not catch fire and requires beefy aftermarket coolers All of this is false. The best gaming CPU on the market right now, the i5 8400, runs cool and efficiently compared to an R5 1600 at 3.9GHz
Power hungry / too hot to handle only applies to cards that need three (3) 6+2pin connectors
Not about AMD vs Intel vs Nvidia, dramaqueen
Search migrate+OS+SSD retard. Your google-fu is weak as hell
IMO opt for the 525gb Crucial SSD over the two drives you have listed, but that's just like my opinion man
You can deal hunt hard for a better value on the monitor. I think you can get about $30 cheaper for similar quality or spend about $20 more for a 27" version at similar quality
Definitely get a better PSU. Corsair, EVGA, Thermaltake, are good brands. Get a 650. The 750 fully-modular PSU I'm getting is only $60 and it's gold as well.
Everything else is great
Zachary Baker
this will still work on b350s right? the title for somereason says z170
Jordan Cruz
>current system >AMD Athlon II X3 445 >Radeon HD 5770 >Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3
i was about to buy a 1050ti right now and upgrade to an i5 8400 later early 2018. is the PCIe 3.0 card even compatible with the PCIe 2.0 x16 slots on my old af motherboard?
Luis Torres
I was met with dozens of old articles about the process. Took a couple pages until they started calling it cloning, which now I get and I know what to do. So thanks
Holy shit, I can't believe he's shilling the i5 7600K and i7 7700K to his viewers
Dylan Fisher
>oh snap the 8600k for 210$? holy fuck that's a ste- >double check >7600k ??
Juan Stewart
Unfortunately, I already bought the psu and storage. Any recs for the monitor?
Angel Cooper
Hello Sup Forumsentiles. The last PC I owned was an alienware from around 2005. I still have it running xp and every few years I turn it on to play Jedi Knight and PSX emulators to get nostalgic.
I got bit by the bug in the last couple months and after catching up on things I have assembled a build for around $620 using a combo of blackfriday online coupons and discounts with used parts from offerup. -ryzen 5 1600 -msi b350 gaming pro -16g corsair vengeance 3000 -msi rx580 8gb -wd 240gb ssd m2.0 -corsair 400c case -seasonic 620w modular psu -rosewill rnxac1300 wifi adapter
I am just waiting for the video card to arrive so I can put this together. The last pieces of the puzzle are: Whats a good freesynch monitor to be on the look out for that isnt the latest and greatest?(I will hunt for used monitors locally under $100) Use will be video editing and some gaming . In the meantime Im reusing my 6 year old monitor.
Is there any issue installing Win 7? I am trying my best to avoid windows 10, but I am about to throw in the towel and be a good goy for papa gates just to get my pc running asap. Would like to spend maximum $30 on the OS. I want to be able to play my old steam games like day of defeat as well as some newer ones because fuck it now I have a rig that can.
Anything you would add last minute while Im still high on the dopamine from buying parts and waiting to assemble? The fact that I spent my black friday $ on a computer instead of gun parts and ammo still concerns me...
Alright fa/g/gots. I'm finally going to participate in the yearly consumerism ritual. Need some info: >Mid or Micro Towers that are optimal for AIRFLOW - fuck liquid coolers >Best 1080p non-meme monitor (no fucking goysync or freespam are desirable, I have zero brand loyalty and don't even game much) for basic quality
Jackson Jackson
pls
Hudson Hall
linusshilltips
Nicholas Hughes
been telling you guys for weeks not to expect shit for black friday lmao
Grayson Price
>Corsair - SF 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply and Silverstone - Sugo SG13B Mini ITX Tower Case are not compatible. see if you can get a better cpu cooler in that formfactor
Christopher Nelson
This, if theres one part id avoid a bootleg brand on, its the fucking watercooling.
Oliver Anderson
thanks man
Jack Diaz
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Brody Nelson
why is he saying that RAM is "tuned" for different CPU manufacturers? thats bullshit right?
Jaxson Russell
>Corsair - SF 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply and Silverstone - Sugo SG13B Mini ITX Tower Case are not compatible
It's actually compatible with Silverstone's PSU bracket. I see a lot of people with that case using SFX psus. I'm hoping the SFX will give me more room in the case to work with while freeing up a little space above the CPU to breath.
Michael Wright
Are blower cards really that loud? Would it be bothersome from across a room?
